please help

Ulla

dear sue,,thank god u moved somewhere else far away from that crazy dentist..i just dont understand why dentists in really developed countries like UK and USA behave like that..i have noticed that they put esthetic prior to health..!!!!which is not right for us as medical staff who must be sure to give our patients the healthy choice be4 the esthetic preferences,,,its just not right..

i know that ppl like to have good looking teeth but we also responsible to tell them the bad side of all these procedures,,

can u believe that thinning ur sound tooth and stick some other artificial material on it (which is unreversible step wen u do it once)

will be a healthy choice and deserves wat u r going to lose???

no way.....u know the scientific name of the since of filling and crownning and making bridges is (ART AND SCINCE OF OPERATIVE DENTISTRY)this means u need to make a good appearnce for a tooth using ur art while u follow scintific ways to recountor this tooth to its normal function!!!!!!!!!

oh god,,wats happenning to me today ,,i just cant forget am a dentist,,,lol

love u sue 

lvtwoqlt

Ulla, I am not going to let him crown my teeth. He had crowned one in 2003 but it was a back tooth and had broken away from the filling. My other teeth are sound except for a large cavity between 2 teeth that is bothering me. that is why I went back to him, to fix the cavity not crown the whole upper arch. They gave me some applications for credit cards to pay for the procedure but I can't afford any more payments out of my check. You shouldn't need a credit card to pay for reasonable dental work. I am going to somebody else for a second opinon. He is good when it comes to pain management, when he put the first crown on, he numbed me up good and I didn't feel a thing, and I am a chicken when it comes to dentists.

Sue I also think you look great in your picts. I have gained 15 lbs in the past year and cannot lose it. It is all in my belly, I look pregnant with my fat belly.

Sheila

Ulla

dera sheila..

its so reasonable to crown a tooth or 2 for some good reasons as i said but wat he said about crownning all upper arch,,,this wat made me so angry...

anyway its ok to have a second openion,,and about ur cavity that needed to be fixed its just an easy thing that he can manage without crownning even wen the cavity is interdental...

love u sisters

sueps

Ulla ...oooooooo you are so clever!!!

I have just been looking at the recent pics on here .... they are totally amazing and diverse.... Ulla you lil beauty queen.... I can't wait to come to Sweden.....xxx

I feel like I have 3 homes...home ,work and here... oh my I wish wish wish we could all meet up one day ...when we are all feeling better.... that would be the cherry on the icing on the cake on the plate on the table in the kitchen in the house on the road in the town ........mmmmmmm .... I am making a craving for a cake 

 

Guess what .... BOOTFACE IS GONE.... YOOOOHOOOOO....I am in control again...NASTY UGLY BOIL IN THE BAG ....GOOD RIDDANCE YOU PILE OF DIRTY FILTH!!!!

Shirlann

HI SUE!!!  HI ULLA, JANE, LISA, JUDIE, SHEILA, JULE, well I am on Walt's computer, mine is still on the fritz!  Stupid thing.  We had a wild weekend.  Walt's cousin and wife from Wash. DC came to visit, I got the food from Calif. Pizza Kitchen, and My son's Steve, and Marshall came and grandkids, Therese, Chris and Trevor.  BUT, they stayed from 11am till 7pm.  My mouth was so tired,  we waved goodbye, I walked upstairs, took off my clothes, didn't wash my teeth, didn't clean the kitchen and fell into bed.  Totally exhausted.

I love to talk (as you all know) but yikes, this was too much.

Ulla, how are you doing with the new onc?  It's gotta be better.

Cat Nap that cat AT ONCE.  They don't know and obviously could care less about the poor thing.  I just read a book about a woman who regularly kidnaps cats and dogs from horrible owners.  Her neighbor beat his dog so badly the dog just cried, like a baby.  So she went over after about 10 of these incidents, and stole him.  (The fellow had a drinking problem).  He got another dog to beat, so she stole him, too.  She said, "As a human being, I cannot stand by when I see such evil and do nothing".

Sue, little love, you are so, so tiny.  Just a little thing.  My, my.  And I love the pix of Daniel? or David?  And the dog pix was a treasure. I LOVE the red shoes, the basket, our sisters were so clever!  What a lovely group of ladies.

I miss you all so much, I can't wait to get my computer back.  What a disaster, I will lose my address book again.

Anyway, we have to figure out a relatively central place and just set the date to meet.  If we fool around, we will not do it.  So put on your thinking caps, first thoughts should go to those with children to think about, the rest of us are flexible.  Work too.  So come on you smart gals, let's get something together.

I love you all and miss so much being here more.  This thread is  Like a sweet drug potion!

Kisses to all, shirlann  

livesstrong

Helloooooooooooooooo - How is everyone???  Seems like its be years since I've been here.

I love the fact that we have a dentist in our midst - its sure going to save me some money!!  Thanks Ulla for your words of wisdom.

Judie - so glad your baby came home.  I would be beside myself if one of the beasts took off.

Nancy - OMG - GREAT PHOTO!!  Love it - love all the photos you all have been putting on.

Sue - how's the table coming???  Isn't it nice, getting back to "normal"?

So here are some pictures of my patio - a work in progress - it looks better at night -

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livesstrong

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livesstrong

The opposite side of the pictures above - I should have cleaned upi the dead branches I had just cut off the tree.  I planted grass seed as well - hoping it comes up - with all the shade I'm not sure.

my3girls

Oh Val...the back patio looks like so much fun!  I can picture you having a drink or two outside with UB! Very welcoming! You are clever! Sue..You sound so good!! I am so happy to hear the normalcy in your post!  You are back, you beat the beast!  David is a doll!! Does he always keep his computer area so nice and neat?? Wow...good for him! Judie...Danni will tell me all about her travels.  Actually, I got an email from her this morning!! She said she is in heaven. She saw the Colosseum in Rome, and now is in  a southern city in Italy called Sorento. She said...Mom...I may have to move here!! She is really enjoying herself! Well....ladies...I am still extremely tired.  I have no idea why. I have not worked today or yesterday, and I didn't do a whole lot around here...cause I feel so drained.  Not sure why this is?? I am going out for a walk or run with my g/f now...maybe that will wake me up! Take care sisters!  And yes, yes...we need to figure out when and where we can all meet.  I still am holding out hope that Oprah will help us. xoxo Lisa

honeygirl

You guys , I just wrote a long post to everyone , and Sweetpea walked across my keyboard and I lost it!

honeygirl

She just did it again! Except this time it posted. I will have to come back after she goes to bed and write. Hugs , Mel

my3girls

I am back from my hill climbing and run...I feel better...maybe that is what I needed.  I hope so, because I hate feeling unmotivated and tired! GRRRRRRRRRR Ill check back in later.  Sweetpea...it's bedtime...lol

honeygirl

OK everyone , I just put Sweetpea to bed , and I e-mailed the producers of the Oprah show! If they like the idea , they will be e-mailing me. Fingers crossed! Man , this would be so exciting , and to be able to meet everyone! Except you Lisa , I'll see you Sunday!xxxx Mel

honeygirl

Judie , so glad Agnes is safe and home. Give her a big hug and a "scratch against the grain" for me!

Nancy , what a beautiful pic. Thanks for sharing it with us. I just love rainbows and butterflys. Two of the most beautiful things in the world to me.

Sue , David is so handsome. But his room is sooo tidy. Doesn't look anything like my sons' room did! What a good boy you got.

Make sure you post a pic of your coffee table when you are finished. Did you take a "before" pic? Can't wait to see it.

AE , LOVE your patio! Alls you need now is Jimmy Buffet strumin' his guitar and singing Margarita Ville! And of course all of us with umbrella drinks in our hands!lol

Hi Jule , hows Libby doing? You better posts some picks of her already!

Hi Shirlann , sounds like you had a great family day. Just wish your computer was fixed. Sure do miss you. How is Walt feeling? Hope you both are well.

Sheila , can't wait to see your pics of you and John. And I agree with Ulla. Get the roof fixed. And your cavity filled. Those can be so painful. Good luck.

Lisa , glad you're feeling better. I hope Danni ends up living in Italy , so you and I can go visit her!lol Really , I hope she has a blast.xxxx Mel

portiasproudmom

Hi everyone.  I'm here late, as usual.  It was a busy day.  The intererviewer from Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center came to interview me today.  I spent hours this morning cleaning.  I've been slacking in that department since my bc diagnosis.  The interview lasted almost three hours!  She asked me everything under the sun about my past--birth control methods, foods I eat, what I drink, what occupations I've had, if I sleep with the light on and how many hours I sleep per night, and on and on and on!  I really had to wrack my brain on some of the stuff.  How the heck am I supposed to remember exact dates on things that happened over 20 years ago?  My head hurt when it was all done.  I'm glad I did it though.

Well, I'm off to bed.  I promise to check in earlier in the day tomorrow.

Love and hugs to you all!!

Karen

geebung

Karen - I'm a lot later than you! If I don't get here early in the morning, most  of you are sound asleep. Goodness - your poor brain must have been aching, trying to remember all those things! The research sounds really interesting though - I would really like to hear what they discover from their findings.

Sue - I love your photos. Zippy is beautiful and David - well, he is gorgeous - I love his kind, wise, twinkling eyes! It's so great to hear you sounding stronger - you are fantastic! Love you heaps!

Melody - Sweet Pea sounds like such a loveable, mischievous little package - her name is perfect - love it! I wish she hadn't deleted your post though!

Lisa - how exciting to hear from Danni - she sounds as though she is revelling in every moment - what wonderful memories she will have. I bet the Italian men are flirting with her!

Charlie was in again today for food and multiple cuddles and also to direct the renovations. My neighbours just got another dog - that's 5! I wish I could kidnap all their animals and give them a good life.

AE - I love your patio - very nautical and unique. That chair is great! I love its natural look. I would love a table made from a slab of beautiful wood with free form natural chairs...

Shirlann - your weekend sounds like a blast! Exhausting but so much fun. I hope you get your computer back soon...

Ulla - it was so interesting to read what you said about crowns. I've often thought that I would love to get all my teeth crowned...not that I could ever afford it though! Anyway, I do have one tooth that needs a crown. A bit broke off and I will need a crown on it before too long. My dentist put a tempory, plastic-type of filling on it. I am such a coward at the dentist and demand lots of pain relief, including happy gas (nitrous oxide).

Hi Jule! Always good to hear from you! 

Nancy - such a beautiful photo of the rainbow! I love seeing everyones' photos. Last week I was driving along the freeway on a rainy afternoon and suddenly there was such a huge, double rainbow above me. I have to admit that it was a struggle to keep my eyes on the road! 

Judie, my mother seems to be living in a fantasy world. It's as though she has travelled back to childhood. She talks about her mother, her siblings and old friends as though they are all still around her. My sister has leaned to just act as though this world is real. If she were to suggest that these people were not really there, it would be distressing for my mother. We both hope that this internal world makes it easier for her. I am hoping to visit her soon - she lives in another state. I hope she recognises me. My sister told me that she usually looks uncomprehending when my name is mentioned... 

Sheila - looking forward to seeing pics of you and John together.

Hello and love to all the above people and everyone else. I want to meet you all!!

Jane xxx 

geebung

Oh my goodness! I didn't realise I wrote so much! Sorry to be so long-winded!

my3girls

Jane, you are never long winded! I love reading every word you write..it's allways so loving caring and interesting.  I can't believe your neighbors got another dog!! Ohh...that infuriates me!  If you don't take care of what you have, why would you get another!!  Yes...I could tell by Danni's email...she is loving every minute of her travels!  She really was looking forward to this trip.  I am so glad with my connections with the airlines, that she was able to do it...because she works so hard...she really deserves it. Her boss in Chicago actually hooked her up with a friend of his, this man is 45 and he is showing her around today.  She said he was a really sweet man.  How neat to be shown the area by someone who lives there! Well...I am glad I went on my run last night, because it is raining like crazy here this morning.  They are calling for rain for the next 3 days!  I am waiting on a man to come and tow away Danni's old car (engine dead). He is giving me 300.00 for it. Better than nothing, and I am glad to get it out of my driveway..it's been there toooo long! Karen, I think that is so neat that you had that interview. I don't think I could remember all the things they were taxing your brain with!  I bet you were tired! Mel....I am counting down!!! 5 days!! I have to re-google the directions to where we are meeting again.  I know I wrote them down, but now I don't remember where I put them...haha.  What is the name of the mall again...oh my...I am bad. I will check in later sisters...going to wait for the tow man. xoxo Lisa

my3girls

I am such a goof!  Mel...I remember...it's Beachwood Place Mall.  I googled directions and pm'd you yours!  See ya on Sunday at Nordies cafe.  I will call them to be sure they are open on Sunday.  I'll let you know! xoxo Lisa

lvtwoqlt

Ulla, I checked with my mom and her dentist does not do unnecessary crowns. I am going to call today and see if I can get in his office for a consultation. I only went to the other dentist because he has friday appointments and when I first went to him I had friday afternoons off, but now my work schedule has changed to 5 - 8 hour days and my boss gives me a variable schedule (come in early/short lunches) if I have any appointments.

Jane you are not long winded, you manage to speak to everyone. I can't remember what different people said or I would speak to all.

Mel & lisa, I would love to come and meet ya'll but I am down south. Hopefully we can find a common ground for all of us to get together and meet or Oprah comes through.

Sheila

my3girls

Sheila...we would love to have you!! I wish you were closer! Ok...I should be cleaning my house, but found myself looking through photos of Olivia's.  So..I will bore you all with some recent pics of her 17th b'day and of her at prom.

her cake i made..she wanted palm trees for California!  Hollywood girl..haha!

Me & Olivia & of course..Oliver!

Alise with Olivia and promenade...she filled in for me as photographer!

I forgot to add this one...Olivia modeling all of her b'day gifts..including her check from my dad in her mouth..lol

Prom...Olivia and her date on the left.  Great dress that we borrowed...and just the right price...free!!

Liv & Dru, they made a cute couple.

Ok...sorry to take up so much space...now I must get some cleaning done! lol

xoxo

Lisa

portiasproudmom

Take up as much space as you want, Lisa!  I always love the pics everyone shares.  And Olivia is such a beautiful girl--I never get tired of looking at her sweet face.  The looked lovely in that dress.  How lucky that you found one to borrow that was so pretty and fit her so perfectly!

I'm glad Danni checked in with you and that she's having such a great time.  I haven't been to Europe since I was 13.  I've been to Germany and Austria, and passed through Switzerland.  I've never been to Italy.  It sounds beautiful.

Love and hugs,

Karen

portiasproudmom

Hi Jane!  Like Sheila, I admire your ability to address everyone and remember exactly what's going on with all of us.  I can't remember what's going on in my own life half the time .  I love your long-winded posts!

Hugs,

Karen

Anonymous

Hello ladies,

I read every post earlier today and now I seem to have CRS Syndrome.....

I do rememeber all the pics, what a beautiful oz everyone has created here .....

Who is the one that said they had emailed Oprah???? I would be happy to help try to work on that....let me know if you think I can be of any help trying to arrange things....hopefully Oprah will make this happen for all of us....I sure cant afford to do it any day soon ...

Work has been crazy again...the snow is melting off our mountains rapidly.  Ssince I work in the fish research field this is normally a busy time anyway but with the high water we have had to improvise on somethings....

I think it was Mel that asked for pics of Libby.....She is doing wonderfully, cant hardly remember when she wasnt with me!!!! She is a steadfast friend as she is always by my side when I am home...I brought her to work with me the other day and introduced here to Brewster (my bosses black lab).....Brewster has never seen another dog in my office so his poor little noise was bent....he didnt like the idea of Libby at first but after a bit they got use to each other and all is well....I promise to get pics soon....my camera has something wrong with it so my pics are stuck on it and I keep forgetting to take the card to town with me to get someone to download and put them on disk...

AE-you patio/back yard is wonderful....I love natical but had never thought to do something like that with my patio...

I have been awaiting my roses blooming with bated breath and guess what I found when I got home yesterday??? My all time favorite rose has one single bloom just opening....I wanted to pick it and take it inside sooooo badly......but I was patient and left it there...

Time for me to run again.....

Hugs for all of you ladies!!!!!!

Jule

Anonymous

Sheila, Ulla's advice is right on. I'm glad you questioned the dentist and have made other plans. I was "blessed" with bad tooth genes and no fluoride in the water where I grew up, so I've had to work hard to keep up with tooth problems. The tooth that broke off has a crown, so I'm having to decide whether to do an implant or give up and go with dentures. Major blow to the ego , not to mention the pocketbook. In fact, I may just have to deal with the "trailer trash" image. Maybe it will come into vogue.

Ulla, it's fun to hear you talk "dentist". I've known, of course, about your profession, but to hear you discuss treatments and technical stuff sheds a whole new light on you as a person beyond the cancer.

Sue, David is handsome and Zippy is adorable. (that is Zippy, isn't it?) Kudos on the visit from the execs, but 14 hour days? You gotta stop that girl!!! You'll not only lose the weight you've gained, you'll dry up and blow away! You'll have the face of a hedgehog. Did you succumb to that cake? Now I want one. You're trouble for sure. You deserve a bit of cake, Sue. You're a FREE WOMAN!

Oh, Shirlann, I can just picture you wearing out your mouth. I'd figured you for a talker. It would be fun to chat sometime sitting somewhere comfy into the wee hours. My idea of fun. Hope the computer problem gets resolved. We need you around here.

AE, where have you been? I've missed you. Your patio looks like so much fun. You are the creative one. I'm jealous.

Lisa, it sounds like Danni is having a dream vacation, but I hope she comes home. I can't imagine having my daughter living so far away. Okay. So we have to let go sometime. It's ok. Keep up the email updates. Love it. I hope your energy returns soon. The pics are great. I know you must get sick of hearing the same old same old all the time, but I can't help it...you and your girls are drop-dead gorgeous. On top of that, very good people.

Mel, you did it! Wow. Now it's waiting. We sure know all about that, don't we. Hmmm...which is harder-waiting for a path report or wating to hear from Oprah????

Wow, Karen, that was an intense interview. Have you told us what the study is? I can't remember. It sounds like a good one.

Jane, it sounds like your mother is doing what mine did. It was such a blessing that she lived in happy times of the past. Many others in the Alzheimer's unit seemed frightened, confused, angry. Mom was just mom, living her own life. As I said, we were also blessed that for some strange reason, she never lost that part of her brain that named her family. I hope you get a little of that blessing as well.

Thanks for the Libby story Jule. It was just what I needed right now. Can't wait to see pictures. It would be cool to see the rose, too. Spring is here. New life blooms. It's all good.

Hugs to everyone,

Judie

Wren

honeygirl,

Thank you so much for writing to Oprah. I know that if her show is insterested in helping us to meet I will be eternally grateful. There is no way I'd ever afford any kind of trip like that any time soon. I would love to meet everyone too. We could do so much to show how support for each of us facing breast cancer can cross miles, countries, and languages... It has helped me every day, whether I post or not.

My memory has trouble keeping up sometimes with who did what or whose real-life name matches their screen nickname too, so I just tend to read a lot and post a little.

Olivia's photos are beautiful. She has a natural inner beauty that just radiates from her outer appearance. I love her 'free' prom dress -- it looks like a princess outfit on her.

My surgery is in one week--June 11th, and I will get my expanders removed/replaced with silicone implants. I am nervous/scared/excited. Today I went and got some short-sleeved button front tops because I don't own any that fit this shape (and I need looser than my normal stuff to go over the binder/bra I have to wear for a while...) I filled all my pre-surgery prescriptions too--so that means it's really happening!!! 

We got new vinyl floors in the kitchen/laundry room yesterday too so I will have a nice clean kitchen to use while I'm recouperating.

There are lots of interesting details about my surgery, but the bottom line is that I will look and feel sooo much better when it's done and I'm healed up.

The thing I look forward to the most will be sleeping on my stomach and sides again. It's been almost eight months since I've been able to... I have to wait one month after surgery, and then I'm going to sleep and sleep and sleep on my tummy... *ahhh the little things that make life so good.

Hugs!

geebung

Lisa - I love your photos - beautiful mother, beautiful daughters! I love Olivia's prom dress - it's so pretty!

Ooooh - I can't wait for you and Mel to meet! Sheila - I wish you could be there too. Hope your dental work is over soon - it's always great to have it over and done with.

Jule - I can't wait to see photos of the sweet Libby - labradors are such wonderful dogs. There is one one lives not far from me called Sonny and he always greets me with such enthusiasm.

Well, I will keep this short this morning. Have just found out I have to do an extra class on Monday nights and I have lots of assignments due so I must away and make a start on them. 

Lots of love to all of you and also to Sue, Suebee, Angie, Stephanie, Ulla, Judie, AnnNYC, AnnW, Kaloni, AE & UB, Shirlann, Mia, Dawn, Judie, Valsul, Wren and anyone else I have missed.

Jane xxx 

geebung

Wren - will send you lots of encouraging, loving thoughts for your surgery.

xxx 

portiasproudmom

Hi everyone.  I know that I sound like a broken record, but please keep my dad in your prayers.  He saw the cardiologist today.  The doctor doesn't think he had a stroke--he thinks it's all related to his heart.  My mom said he wasn't very encouraging at all and basically said there wasn't anything more that could be done for him.  We all knew this would happen some day, but it's just too soon after my whole cancer scare.  I don't know if my mom can handle it.  I REALLY hate this!

Love and hugs,

Karen

Anonymous

Oh, Karen...I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. Life isn't fair sometimes. Your dad has been in my thoughts since you first posted about him, and will continue to receive thoughts and prayers. Remember that we are here for you. Don't hesitate to use us to support you however we can.

Love and hugs back,

Judie