I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

1Athena1

I agree with you Kadeeb. If it comes down to ascribing responsibility, we must all be held accountable. We all have free will. Even if we are brainwashed by a cult, we should still pay the price for acts that we commit, even under manipulation (although mitigating factors could be taken into account at sentencing). Unless you are insane (which is very hard to prove under most states' laws) or mentally underdeveloped, you must be held accountable.

But whether you are an extremist or merely incredibly stupid or gullible or sociopathic? That is harder to know.

kadeeb

Otter,

Glad to see the winds haven't blown you to Georgia. 

kadeeb

Medigal,

My mom always says, " If they're talking about me, then they're giving someone else a rest". 

kadeeb

hillck,

some would call it art. 

otter

How about you, kadeeb?  Did you weather the storms okay?

We had it easy in my part of the state -- just a few rounds of intense rain while we ignored the "TORNADO WARNING" ribbon scrolling across the TV screen.  We did lose our satellite TV signal and our HughesNet internet service for awhile during the worst of the rain, and that's a nuisance. Really, the bad stuff stayed away from us.  But it looked rough (lots of rosy-red colors) in other areas.

'Course, it's getting to be that time of year in our part of the country, eh?

otter

1Athena1

Otter,

We got an e-mail at work saying there was a tornado "warning" too and I wondered whether people in Kansas would be laughing at us ignorant MidAtlantic/North Easterners. I thought "warning" was only for when you knew it was coming. Technically, we should have been on a "watch" only - otherwise my signature would not have been the only thing to disappear! 

kadeeb

Otter,

We did the same. Gave us a break from work for about an hour. Not any damage close by but I heard there was one killed in TN he was found under a trailer. Glad to hear things went well. I dread this time of year. I love the spring springing out but those darn thunderstorms stir up too many twisters. You'd think we were in Kansas.

Anonymous

Oh Darn.  He/she didn't show up for dinner tonight.  I worry, but I shouldn't as he has been away before one time for 10 days!  He/she showed up starving and fur was all matted

Anonymous

SO do you all use Photo Bucket or some other source?  Or can you post directly from your computer on to this site?

Anonymous

Charles Manson has charisma ??

YramAL

Here's an article that appeared in the Seattle Times today:

"Conservatives Heap Criticism on Michelle Obama's Anti-Obesity Campaign"

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2014352046_michelleobama28.html

Really??? Really??? This is the best they can do? A quote from the article:"And in January, some conservatives even suggested that Obama was endangering people, blaming an increase in pedestrian deaths on the first lady's campaign by saying that Americans were putting themselves at risk by walking more."

Some conservatives also call Mrs. Obama's suggestion that women breast feed their children a "leftist viewpoint".

Aargh!

Mary 

1Athena1

Erica, I definitely think it is a he, and that he is a ladies' man.

kadeeb

Athena, around here, the local TV stations sit by their Doppler and look for "rotation". If the National Weather Service sees what they call a "signature" they issue a warning. Just means there is probably one in the air.  We have idiots( I mean "spotters") that actually go out and look for one. Sometimes I think they cry "wolf" too often so we don't pay as much attention as we should when the real thing shows up but I heed the warning most of the time. I had a metal roof put on my house last year because I was tired of having it replaced every summer (3 summers in a row). 

kadeeb

Erica, If Charles Manson has carisma, I don't want any.

That opossum is out horn doging around. He'll come back home with a smile on his face, smoking a cigarette. 

1Athena1

Lol - but you have had tornadoes, then. Over here, they are extremely rare.

Bren-2007

Cindy .. I'm very familiar with the case of the Mormon extremists you posted on the prior page.  The massacre happened about five miles from where I lived in So. Utah.  The area is revered as holy ground.

Bren

kadeeb

Yramal, I do think she should breast feed if she wants and let the rest of the population do what they feel is best but what's the point in attacking someone who is trying to help out with our fat problem. I should have said "my" because I'm as guilty as can be. That's nit picking.

YramAL

Dictionary.com defines charisma as "a spiritual power or personal quality that gives an individual

influence or authority over large numbers of people."

I would say Charles Manson has charisma by that definition. He may not be charismatic to me but he sure is to his followers.

Mary 

(I don't know why some of my words are blue....) 

Edited to add: Nor do I know why the words came out that way... 

kadeeb

Like I said, I don't want any.

Athena, Oh we do!  April was 2 years ago, one touched down in Guntersville, Al and did not let up until it left SandMountain (almost into Georgia), about 40 miles.We(my dad and I) got hit twice with the same tornado. My dad has a river house in Guntersville, it wiped out 20 homes and cabins along the Tennessee River then climbed the mountain and took out a trailer park about 1 mile north of my house(with damage between). I only had shingles lifted and blown to Georgia, some damage to the vinyl trim but once the tabs on a shingle roof have been lifted you have to replace the whole thing. When it lifts this metal roof (and it can) I won't have to replace it because it will cause me to have a heart attack and the kids can sell what's left. 

1Athena1

Kadeeb, I am with you on the heart attack - I have never seen a tornado, but from what I have read and heard, I think I would have a coronary event right there and then if I experienced one. Here's hoping you do not have to replace that roof again.

kadeeb

A girl at work asked me what it sounded like ( I think that's a mandatory question). I told her it sounded like "THUMP"   "THUMP"  "THUMP". Oh no, that wasn't the sound of the tornado, that was the sound of my heart beating in my ears. I couldn't have heard anything over that. Scared the living crap out of me. I have a closet under my stairs and I have a nice little place to sit with my cell, and a flash light. I'm a believer now. Weather radios that sound like a police cruiser is parked in the bedroom go off all night when there's severe weather but I wouldn't be sleeping anyway. Spring is usually eventful.

1Athena1

I have heard that it sounds like a train.

When I lived in Miami Beach, a hurricane prone place, there was one day when there were hurricane-force winds and the weather people diodn't predict it. Wind speeds at Miami International Airport were clocked at 104 mph that night. It was the scariest in my life. My apartment was fifteen floors up with a direct ocean view (the building overlooked the beach) so there was nothing standing between me and nature, it seemed. The winds move at higher speeds when you are at that height, of course. One of my bedroom windows had a slight crack and the howl all night was awful. I didn't sleep a wink.

ananda8

Two years ago a tornado touched down 60 miles north of Little Rock and stayed on the ground for 150 miles.   The tornado was huge and very scary. 

I have watched thunderstorms over Missouri from our porch in Arkansas (we are 20 minutes from the border).  One storm was really strange.  The lightning strikes were so numerous that the sky just stayed lighted and the thunder was continuous for about 10 minutes.  It was an amazing sight and I was glad I was not under that storm.

Has anyone experienced thunder-snow?  A heavy snow is falling and there is thunder and lightening.  It is a fairly rare occurrence and very beautiful.

iodine,

Thanks for the link.  The earthquake was no where near the San Madrid fault but the information was interesting.

Alpal

Tupelo - how perfectly terrifying for those poor people. Wonder why they were in that area? Something needs to be done about those pirates, but they seem to have everyone stymied. Maybe the Danish government will be able to come up with something.

CherrylH

Hi notself,

 We had thundersnow here in the greater Chicago area earlier this month. It was so wierd - a blizzard is going on and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, thunder and lightening. Just lilke in the summer. A very strange night.

konakat

I don't know why small craft are sailing there.  It's like going into shark-infested waters with a raw steak around your neck.  Must be horrifying but at least the pirates normally keep hostages alive for ransom.  I hope the Dutch gov't doesn't make the mistake and storm the boat and get the poor people killed by the pirates.

Edit: BTW -- "Libtards" watch the news and are aware of this happening so I don't understand the purpose of the post.

annettek

I agree Kadeeb- Charles Manson apparently did not kill anyone himself, he guided his followers to do so. Another extremist I am sure many remember is Jim Jones...yikes, that was a sad, sad thing.

annettek

i guess I should have read all the way through before my Manson comment. Oh well, you know it is why you could get arrested for yelling Fire in a crowd...your action lead to a reaction....(oh geez, now I am quietly singing "conjunction junction" in my head...i have been working all night and am giddy with I don't know what...sigh)

annettek

Now that I finally read through everything, I must concur with KonKat..why on earth were they sailing those waters, never mind with their CHILDREN. It is one thing to put your own damn self at risk against all common sense, but it is beyond my limit of understanding why one would take their kids on such an "adventure" for any reason at all. This kind of stuff makes me crazed, for as a human of course I care that someone is in harm's way but then it battles with anger over the thoughtlessness in regards to the kids. I mean you would have to be living under a rock with ear plugs not to know it was dangerous venture. Crap, I refuse to go to Seaworld (not understanding why the corporate guys don't get that whales aren't fond of humans penning them up so that is why they keep eating them) as I don't care to see carnage in a controlled environment, let alone the open sea as a shooting gallery (there is always Johnny Depp if I want to see a damn pirate)but isn't it a bit extremist for an adult to go to dangerous lengths to satisfy THEIR wants and land up endangering others? When you factor in the folks who then have to ty to save their lives, well, it is just madness.

And then I think of that Steve Irwin guy who got bit by a sting ray a couple of years ago and died...now his damn fool wife has the kids playing with crocodiles...although I think all she is extreme about is keeping the cash flow coming...ok, I better go find some chocolate.  

ananda8

The link indicated that family was a considerable distance from where the pirates had previously held sway.  Because other larger vessels and been captured, the pirates are now going much further from Somalia.  I don't think the family was necessarily irresponsible.