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  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited October 2007

    Great news Sue that it was not in your nodes.

    I had low nuclear grade DCIS so I just had the bilat mast and am not taking chemo or rads. I also had all the DCIS removed with the needle biopsy so they did not get an acutal measurement of it. But you need to do what will help you the most.

    About the pains in your arm, I heard that the pain down the arm is also connected to the nerve damage done during the surgery but it should resolve itself in time.

    Sheila

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Thankyou Sheila..the pain in my lower arm when I stretch it is restricting, but I am going to use mind over matter and focus because I really want to get over it...They are sending me for phsysio..hopefully it will start subsiding and I can cancel my appointment by the time I get it.

    Well it has been 44 days since diagnosis...and I cant even remember the early bits of the year...I dont know whether I am one person or another...or I feel this and that...I have always been a multi dimensional person ..... and now I feel even more lost .....  But tonight I quietly reflect and think this has been a bigger ordeal than I at first thought...because I suppose that is my inner self asking for a rest....

    I thank god I found you all xxxxxx

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2007

    Hi Sue -

    I just happened on this thread and want to say that I can tell you are a strong woman and you will beat this.  I am also young (40) and am looking at my last chemo next week.  It seems like it was forever but went quickly at the same time.

    I wanted to comment on the pain in your arm.  I had the same pain and it is from the surgery.  I went for physical therapy and couldn't believe how quickly it went away after that.  They gave me exercises to do every night and within 2 weeks, I was 90% better.  I only had to go to about 6 therapy appts.  I really didn't think it would help that much, but it did! I am now 7 months out of surgery and have some numbness in my arm, but no pain at all with anything I do.

    I know it's a long time to wait, but be glad about the negative nodes!!  You will feel much better once you get a full plan of action in place.

    Best of luck to you!

  • Lucy1234
    Lucy1234 Member Posts: 289
    edited October 2007

    Yay Sue!



    I'm so happy you had good news!

    If you have chemo at least it will be for preventative measures. My lump is also on the chest wall high on my breast so I might have the same thing with the rads. They did another biop under ultrasound today and I get the results next wednesday. It bloody well hurt this time!!!

    I'll let you know how I get on.



    I think you deserve a celebratory Chinese and a large Vodka



    Poppy

    X

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    ...Hi Poppy....Did you get shot in the chest today...it really hurts doesnt it... I think that hurt more than surgery! I had a lot of bruising from that...what I have now is such a clean scar ....

     So a week to wait and your surgery isnt too long off either...these nxt couple of weeks will fly by towards the end ....You will be where I am  and we might even go through treatment at the same time....I will always look out for you...

     I was reading some of your other posts earlier and some make me laugh LOL ...like the way you paced the room shouting 'I don't want to die'...  its funny and sad at the same time...and I have done that often in the early days...walking in circles around the house all the way outside and all the way back in,over and over...chanting 'I don't want this! I didn't want this! I never asked for this!  and then realised a few days later I wasnt getting anywhere...but still I protested right the way through to the anaesthetic ......

     We will get through this and learn to live with it...(even though its not what we want)...you have a lovely sense about you, your OH must be very proud...

    I had a chinese last night ...thats about the third take away recently....its funny how takeaways make you feel better...mmmmmmmmm LOL

    Well I am off to pick my sons up in a minute...a ten minute drive in the dark....and its freezing outside!  Later I will have a bath and a quiet chat with my scar ..... in a way welcoming the sight of it...Its very itchy tonight so I might bear to put some cream on ...

    Maybe I will feel better as all this sinks in ....maybe I have a tad PMT...

    Wishing you all a good moment

    Much Love xxx

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    ...and thankyou Connie ...it is good to hear about the physio clearing everything up..... you have done brilliant with the chemo too.... xx

    Much love xxx

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2007

    Great news Sue!!! You are now getting close to having a plan. I can't tell you how much having a genuine plan makes things bearable. Most of that old devil anxiety will be shoved into a jar with bootface.

    Sue, clear lymph nodes trump grade 3 every time.  Clear nodes, grade 3 = probably no spread. A few positive nodes, grade 2 = possible cancer cells in other organs. Yes, grade 3 is more aggressive and that is why it grew fast. But it likely was growing fast in the breast instead of exploring elsewhere.

    Close to the chest wall means maybe radiation, but the oncologist will have full information and can guide you there. Size and grade...borderline for chemo. At your age, I think I'd go for it, but again, your onc will know a lot more and will give you all your choices.

    At any rate, your ducks are now in a row, ready to be hunted. Congratulations! And in 6 weeks, the pain will be history, too.

    Towhee 

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Towhee....quack quack!! What a lovely image I have...plastic ducks of course...lol

    You have reassured me no end xx....I had a bit of a heavy heart driving back just then...and when I pulled up my youngest who is 11 started crying and asking 'if I would be alive for his birthday'..(it is my eldest bday tomorrow) Of course I had a good chat with them both and reassured them...and then I made them laugh telling them I was really upset not to be losing my hair with treatment in time for halloween....... 'awwwwww mummy' they squealed .... lol...naughty but nice!

    But the fact that it hasnt spread to my lymph nodes is starting to reassure me.....even though its still a nasty ordeal through and through for everyone...However you have all made me feel much better regardless of whatever I have....

    Its a big lottery...my surgeon was saying some people with higher grades come out better than people with low ones...its all an individual chance...

    I know one thing ...I would never have survived as good as I have mentally if you hadnt allowed me to vent...this truly has kept me going....much more than anything I could ever have expected x

    xxx

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Ok and one last thought..sorry

    Tonight I feel messed up. Now they have taken the dressing off it is all  a reality... I dont mean I just feel down with no breast but the scar is an outward sign of how ill I was...inwardly ...well I never liked to stop and look inward for any length of time...so maybe it is hitting home...as the last time I really really had grounded thoughts about anything was when I was healthy with both breasts..the scar will make me come to terms I guess and I will no doubt wrangle some more...until acceptance comes...I have difficulty accepting things ...

    Sorry ... I am sure it is normal...I hope...The human mind is powerful eh...

    Anyway off to make a nice cup of tea x

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited October 2007

    Dear Sue - that is just great about the negative nodes! You are now free of the %^#@*! Sorry you still have arm pain but Connie has been encouraging about the pt.  I know how much my physiotherapist has helped me with lymphatic drainage. It's sure to make a big difference.

    Now another wait but at least you have some knowledge about the situation now. I cannot give any thoughts on chemo as I didn't have make that choice but I am sure that you will make the right decision with your onc.

    Much love and hugs

    gb 

  • TenderIsOurMight
    TenderIsOurMight Member Posts: 4,493
    edited March 2008



    Wow Sue, you already put up your "signature"!



    You've come a long way, baby!!!



    Tender



  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited October 2007

    Hi SueSmile! Negative nodes , YEAH,YAHOO,YIPPEE,YAHOO,ZIPITYDOODAH!!!!!!LaughingWinkLaughingSmileLaughing! There is nothing more positive in my book than negative nodes. And yes , they took all your nodes out and you are in alot of pain , but its from surgery not cancer. sigh. Thank you God , for all our blessings and all our blessings yet to come. Yes , you are probably gonna have chemo. It really does go by fast. And my last treatment was Aug. 1st. and I'm already going scarf-less! Yes , I am sporting the "GI Jane" look and feel just as good as I use to. I never thought I would feel this good this soon , but am so glad I do. You will too. It just takes time. But you are on your way Sue.

    Well Sue , it has taken me forever to write this , because I came home from work to find my OH brought me a kitten! And she is screaming her head off cause she wants to be held with my undivided attention! Its kinda bitter-sweet for me. My kitty , Edwina died in July and I said I didn't want anymore. But someone dropped off the litter at his friends house and he couldn't say no! I will most likely keep her. Her name shall be Lilly. Take care Sue. ttyl Hugs and prayers , Melody

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited October 2007

    WHOOOPEEEE! Negative nodes!!!!! What a huge blessing to you! Now you will outlive all the docs!!!!hahahaha



    HOOOOORRRAAAYYYYY!!!GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND OUR SWEET SUE!!!!

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited October 2007

    WHOOOPEEEE! Negative nodes!!!!! What a huge blessing to you! Now you will outlive all the docs!!!!hahahaha



    HOOOOORRRAAAYYYYY!!!GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND OUR SWEET SUE!!!!

    As you all know, I live in San Diego, which is doing its best to burn itself up!

    Fortunately, we live near the ocean and not in any danger from the fires, which are located mainly in the back country. Still, we have a lot of ash.

    But nothing can keep me from celebrating this wonderful news with our Sue, honey you will just fine FOR SURE now, and I will make sure in the next few years to come to England and FIND YOU TO HUG!!! And we will drink a pint together!

    Hugs, hugs, hugs, Shirlann
  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Melody ...a little kitten...how lovely...I want one!! Edwina will be looking down with care knowing you are happy again...and Lilly will be eternally grateful for a new fantactically loving owner...Oh what fun .....

    I adore my cats.....

    I am going for my bath its gettin late Surprised

    Thankyou for your as ever positive bubbly post....LIFE DOES GO ON xx

    Much Love xxxx

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    HAHAHAHAHA Shirlann...you're a crazy ladeee...LOL...

    GOD SAVE MY SHIP AND ALL WHO SAIL IN HER....

    I will start planning my journey round the US I have my piggybank being filled as we post....

    Going for my bath..... Thankyou girls xxx

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    We are destined to meet....where theres a will as big as ours there's a way! ....Shirlann ...cant wait to sink a pint with you ....hahahaha

    Have a lovely day !! xx

  • livesstrong
    livesstrong Member Posts: 1,799
    edited October 2007

    Sue -

    YIPPEE!!!   Doing my happy dance for you as I write this!!!!! 

    No Nodes, how great is that!!!!

    I was Stage 2, Grade 2 with a 2.5cm tumor with no nodes as well.  I went for 4 rounds of A/C chemo every 2 weeks and a month after that did 6 weeks of rad's.  Even though it was not a pleasant experience, it is VERY DOABLE.  I didn't work thru chemo but some ladies do.  Rad's was a breeze, just going everyday was a pain.

    I know you will be able to handle this next part of your journey just fine.

    I'm not a "pint" lady, can I come and have a Margarita?????

    Valerie

    By the way, loved the card - finally got a chance to go thru all my emails since I got back. Sleep well.

  • livesstrong
    livesstrong Member Posts: 1,799
    edited October 2007

    Sue- Sue- this was taken in Key West, Florida last week. Not such a great picture of me but I am having a drink for all my BC sisters that I have met on these boards!!!  The bar is called Captain Tony's Saloon and I'm having a very delicious Pirate's Punch!!  The place is filled with business cards.  There must be thousands of them covering the walls.   Aren't the bra's a hoot???http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s118/3dogwife/keywest.jpg 

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    BIG HELP PLEASE , I AM ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL.

    I just spoke with breast nurse as in reflection I didn't get all I needed to know from the meeting yday...she has given me more of a picture...much more and I am very very disappointed...do I need to feel like this with this overal diagnosis:

    grade 3  stage1/2  size 24mm  HOWEVER EXTRA:

    IT IS NEGATIVE TO HORMONES AND NEGATIVE TO HERCEPTIN ....why did they not divulge this yday....

    They say I will need to have chemo due to my age and the grade....I would like to ask anyone there advice regarding the negative tests...ALSO...if I have chemo with NO tumour present how do they no if it is an effective right type of chemo to use! I do not understand.....

    I was really hoping I would be able to take extra treatment in the form of hormone type pills...

    xxx

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    ...she also said that the cancer hadnt appeared in any lymphatic blood vessels either....x

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Valerie I love your picture....it caught a wonderful moment xx

  • livesstrong
    livesstrong Member Posts: 1,799
    edited October 2007

    Sue,

    Do you mean ER-/PR-??? If so, I can't help you with that.

     I also had my tumor removed and had no visible signs of disease but the chemo treatment I had was designed to kill any cells that might be floating around in my body.  The radiation just concentrated on my affected boob.

    This is just another bump in the road, try not to despair.

    Valerie

  • TenderIsOurMight
    TenderIsOurMight Member Posts: 4,493
    edited March 2008



    Hi Sue,



    Try not to despair! When you find out these things, your emotions go up and down. And you're still recovering from a very big surgery.



    So, they tell you the tumor is ER-(negative)/PR-(negative) and HER2-(negative), aka "triple negative".



    You may wish to do is to stroll down to the triple negative threads and pose your questions. These ladies are in the best position to answer many of your questions, having experienced exactly what you are learning applies to you.



    Not that we wish to move you on. Many who are triple negative may be responding here soon.



    Thinking of you,

    Tender



  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited October 2007

    Don't despair Sue.  There are tons of ladies on these boards who are triple negative.  I'm sure you'll get lots of helpful info to put your mind at ease.  Tender is right, there's a triple negative thread that you may want to browse or pose questions.  Relax--it will be fine.

    Love and hugs,

    Karen

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Thx... I feel today like I am encased in cement!

    Well, I am wondering if the doctors knew this at biopsy stage and that is why they took all the lymph nodes out.... because I actually had to ask about the entire diagnosis and phone back today with that very important er negative question etc..... the breast nurse apologised to me that I am negative this that and the other...OMG I feel like I am on my own....

    Well, thankyou everyone xxxx lots of love

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited October 2007

    Hi Sweet Sue, I am a "Triple Negative" and that means that hormone therapy does not do us any good.  It means that your cancer is not Estrogen or Progesterone driven.  I personally was glad.  And you, since you are quite young, I think are better off, since you still have periods and still produce estrogen.

    Now, these cancers CAN be, not for sure, but CAN be aggressive.  But the interesting part is, if you get through 2 or 3 years without a recurrence or metastasis, triple negative breast cancers VERY RARELY RECUR after this much time.

    This is just another thing.  Try not to focus on it or worry about it.  It is what it is.  As you know, I am 9 years out of treatment and just fine.  So being Triple Negative is not ideal, it is far from the end of the world.  I was glad I did not have to take Tamoxifen or Femara, because these drugs are wonderful, but like all medicines, not side-affect free.

    So stop worrying about this.  You cannot change it, and the fact that your lymph nodes were negative means nothing has passed on to the rest of your body, so being triple neg, means a lot less.

    There are so many aspects, some are good (like no lymph nodes), some are not so good, (triple negative) and some don't matter.  It is what it is.  It is still just another part of the picture.  So don't focus on this too much.

    You will live to see Charles on the throne and probably William, too.  With maybe Kate Middleton as Queen.  That will be fun time.  I have stayed up all night for all the weddings and funerals since Margaret Rose married Antony Armstrong Jones. 

    So keep the pint handy, we will be together.  I promise.

    And keep all the things you are being told in perspective.  You have passed with flying colors the real, real biggies, all your scans were clean and no nodes.  Concentrate on this and forget about the other, can't change it, so don't dwell on it.

    You are loved and cherished, our Sweet Sue, you will be just fine.

    Hugs and kisses, Shirlann

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Thankyou Karen...xx

    I have googled and feel worse! I need to think of positives xx

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

    Shirlann...you are truly right!  I have passed everything bar the hormone tests....I will think positive..... I just hope hope HOPE the chemo will be succesful to the outcome ...... x

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2007

     I am extremely down and defeated.

    I did not want to be triple neg. It was my next hope...I just woke with a strange feeling that there was more to my diagnosis than I had learned..

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