I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    Anyone going to watch the Jon Stewart/Bill O'Reilly debate?  I think it's tonight and may be a pay per view event.  I'll wait to hear about it tomorrow on the news.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Oh Mary...I just wanted to a walk a minute in their shoes....to see what it feels like to post creepy pictures and half-baked stories.  It felt strange, so had to caveat it at the bottom.....but you know what, it is so darn easy to just do it!  I just searched for the most egregious picture and story I could find and posted it....1-2-3- blasphemy!  (Darn, not on one of those Republican like mass mailer email lists sending out Obama lies and pics...do Democrats even do those?)

    Well, it was actually true, what he said...one "n" missing....he really needs to be more careful with his slogans though. 

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    I don't think so, Kam -- I am on a lot of Dem emailing lists and I don't get any of those. I belong to a lot of liberal groups on FB too, and I see a lot of very funny memes, but no long lists of lies about Robme and Ruin -- only independently verifiable facts that have been reported for years.  Of course, *they* wouldn't believe those because they are so far gone in their insanity that they believe BLS can be cooked.  As one who knows about the workings of BLS and the secrecy (locked rooms, escorts to the bathroom), that is absurd.  But you can't fix rabies.

    L

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    That BLS crap is just that and speaking for civil servents, how incredibly insulting to federal employees.  I will also say something about the old time federal pensions.....the kind one can't take with them from federal job to non-federal job.  The good thing about a federal pension, besides providing for one in their old age, very few employees would jeopardize this pension by doing something that underhanded.....it just wouldn't happen.  Also, before they got to this type of job, they would have proven their mettle.  I can't even imagine how the employees must feel at BLS after hearing this crap. 

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited October 2012

    Alas, their is no cure for stupid or breast cancer.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012
  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    So true, HL!

    Mary 

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    There.  Figured out how to make it smaller.  It pretty much lays it right out there.

    L

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    Obviously the Pro Romney folks have to make things up to bash Obama.

    With Bush........we didn't have to make things up.....

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    HL, that is the best commentary I've seen lately.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Now Obama is the anti-christ...sheesh, I thought that was George Bush?

    HL - great graphic. 

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    "Romney Health Care Debate Claim Gets Corrected By His Own Staff"

    "Independent fact checkers have not been particularly kind to Mitt Romney since Wednesday's first presidential debate in Denver. But one of the candidate's claims turned out to be so far off the mark that he had to be corrected by his own aides - a fact not unnoticed by the Obama campaign.

    Romney's claim was this, part of what turned out to be a highly detailed discussion of health care: "No. 1, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan."

    By pre-existing conditions, Romney was talking about the ability for people who already have medical problems - diabetes, for example, or even things like allergies - to buy health insurance. Starting in 2014, the federal Affordable Care Act says insurance companies can no longer reject people with bad health histories - nor can they charge them more.

    That's already true in Massachusetts under the law Romney signed as governor. But Romney's current plan for the nation, should he be elected president, wouldn't necessarily guarantee that same protection.

    "Actually, governor, that isn't what your plan does," President Obama told Romney at the debate Wednesday. "What your plan does is to duplicate what's already the law."

    The president was referring to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, or HIPAA. It's a 1996 law that says, among other things, that once you have health insurance you can continue to purchase it, as long as there's no interruption in your coverage of more than 63 days.

    But Romney's plan wouldn't guarantee that people who don't have coverage now will be able to buy it. Top Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom said as much in the so-called spin room to several reporters right after the debate, and again on Thursday on CNN.

    "The governor will repeal Obamacare and he will return to the states the power to control their own health care futures," Fehrnstrom told Wolf Blitzer. "Look, what works in Massachusetts may not work in Texas. It was wrong for the president to take the broad outlines of the Massachusetts plan and impose it as a dictate from Washington on every state in the nation."

    That correction was gladly picked up by the Obama forces. At a rally Friday in Northern Virginia, Obama took credit for one of the few times he actually called Romney out during the debate.

    "Gov. Romney was fact checked by his own campaign. That's rough," the president told a cheering crowd at George Mason University. "Even they know his plan would take away coverage for tens of millions of Americans."

    This isn't the first time a Romney statement has had to be walked back by his staff when it comes to health care. In recent weeks he's misstated or switched positions on abortion and on Medicaid. But at 67 million viewers, this was by far the largest audience that's heard something different from what the candidate's position actually is."

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/10/06/162404662/romney-health-care-debate-claim-gets-corrected-by-his-own-staff

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2012

    I am trying to understand the board rules. One can post a photo of a bloodied, beaten POTUS but not change one's screen name to reflect support for that same POTUS?



    Sooooo ...I should be able to change my name to FakePhotoOfBloodyRomney without a problem?



  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Or maybe FakePhotoofBirdPooRomney?  Or just BirdkillerR(money)?

    L

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2012

    By Jove, I think I've got it!

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012
  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2012
    Obamacare -- saving taxpayer $$$:
     
    Courtesy of CBS News

    Ninety-one people have been charged in seven cities in a series of arrests carried out by the Medicare Fraud Strike Force. The suspects are accused of participating in various fraud schemes involving more than $429 million in false billing. 

    According to officials at the Department of Justice, the suspects allegedly billed Medicare for treatments that were improper or unnecessary. In some cases the government was billed for treatments that were not even provided. Doctors and nurses are among those arrested. 

    Arrests were made in Houston, Dallas, Brooklyn, Baton Rouge, Chicago, Los Angeles and Miami. The largest crackdown occurred in South Florida where 33 people were rounded up and charged in connection with health care fraud cases totaling more than $230 million. In Texas, the president of Riverside General Hospital in Houston and his son were also charged. 

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius added that new provisions in President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act made it more difficult for fraud to be committed.  
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2012

    Sad to say, as much as I've read, watched, and listened, I still don't know what Romney stands for. Other than the standard "Freedom!" answer, I mean.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Getting elected, FFR.  That's all.  Getting elected. 

    L

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2012

    But shouldn't he pretend to have a plan? Even W had one.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Well, you see -- he saw how Duh pretended he had a plan and nobody really paid attention. And remember -- Robme keeps saying he has a plan but he won't reveal it because he doesn't want to reveal his plans to Congress.  You know, because they might steal them or something.  Or something. Because, well, he has a plan but he'll explain it all after he's elected.  Because he has this plan, you know.  That Congress might not agree with, so he won't say it right now, because he'll wait until after he's elected because he has a plan, you know.

    It's all about winning, not governing.  And then it's about getting rid of all of the protections for the 99% to allow the 1% to continue to plunder.  Because that's his plan.

    L

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    If he doesn't lie about something, he gets it all wrong.  I was listening to an analysis of his comments in the debate about Dodd-Frank - such a snow job.  He just counts on American's not getting it.

    The Truth About Too Big To Fail: How Romney Got It All Wrong On Wall Street ReformBy Pat Garofalo on Oct 4, 2012 at 9:41 amDuring last night’s presidential debate, Mitt Romney tried to situate himself as the adversary of big Wall Street banks. He repeatedly invoked the necessity of regulations and criticized the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, which he wants to repeal, as a “kiss” to “New York banks.”Romney singled out one provision of Dodd-Frank in particular — the ability of regulators to designate certain firms as “systemically signficant” — saying that it means the big banks are “effectively guaranteed by the federal government“:
    Dodd-Frank was passed. And it includes within it a number of provisions that I think has some unintended consequences that are harmful to the economy. One is it designates a number of banks as too big to fail, and they’re effectively guaranteed by the federal government. This is the biggest kiss that’s been given to — to New York banks I’ve ever seen. This is an enormous boon for them. There’ve been 122 community and small banks have closed since Dodd- Frank…Look, we have to have regulation on Wall Street. That’s why I’d have regulation. But I wouldn’t designate five banks as too big to fail and give them a blank check. That’s one of the unintended consequences of Dodd-Frank. It wasn’t thought through properly. We need to get rid of that provision because it’s killing regional and small banks. They’re getting hurt.
    This has been a common criticism of Dodd-Frank amongst conservatives, and it was invoked by Paul Ryan before he was named Romney’s vice presidential pick. But it is nowhere near the truth. Being designated as “systemically significant” is not a good thing for the biggest banks, as it means they have to abide by more stringent regulations. If it were a “kiss” for the biggest banks that guaranteed them federal funding, they would be clamoring to be named systemically significant; but they’re doing the exact opposite.Romney also ignores that Dodd-Frank includes an entirely new process for unwinding failed big banks known as resolution authority. The provision gives the federal government the power to take apart a failing financial behemoth without resorting to ad hoc bailouts. Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), whose names graces the Dodd-Frank law, called resolution authority a “death panel” for banks.Ryan’s budget, which was passed by House Republicans, repeals resolution authority, which would ultimately leave the government in the same exact position it found itself in during the financial crisis: unable to do anything to prevent a complete financial meltdown other than rescuing the big banks. But to hear Romney tell it, he has it out for big Wall Street banks.
  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited October 2012

    Hey Scoot, I mean, Flippy Flopp, there you go using logic and facts again. Don't you know they are against the law of this forum. No logic. No facts. Just hysteria and mumbo jumbo. Get with the program.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2012

    I could not believe my ears when Romney resurrected the death panel myth. He KNOWS that's a bunch of hogwash and yet he inserts it and other lies into the debate.



    The ACA has no death panels. The IPAB does not determine treatment. Read the law, people!

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2012

    Dang, Cherryl. I forgot where I was for a moment. Thank you for the reminder!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    A Mad Tea Party will keep you spinning FlippityFlopperRomney.  Romnesia is a problem....

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