I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    This is the best anecdote for a progressive tax rate structure that I've heard.  When Romney's dad, George Romney, was the head of American Motors, the tax rate for income earned above $1 million was 90%.  George said, give me the $1 million, no more, and let the company invest what I would have earned back into the company, instead of me getting just 10% of that.  This is really the only way "trickle down" works.  Obviously George was quite happy with his million dollar salary, but if he could have had a cool million more at 35% taxation rate, he might have taken it...put it in his personal bank account...and nary a dollar of it would have ever been put to work, hiring workers, etc..

    On that sadistic picture......this is just the sort of hypocrisy one sees from those that claim flagpins represent patriotism.  They can wear some inanimate object and claim to be patriotic Americans because of it while desecrating the office of the POTUS. 

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    That is disgusting, HL, but not the least bit surprising.

    Mary 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    River_Rat - I have a free account at photobucket.com  I can drag and drop photos from my personal files there and then I use one of their links by double-clicking on the photo at photobucket, once its upload from my personal files.   I think the link I use at photobucket.com is the second one in the list of four. I copy that link into the the menu box provided by BCO (get to that menu by double clicking on the icon that looks like a tree and putting that photobucket link in the URL box ).  You can resize it at this point.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Well, Kam, Robme's father had integrity. He was a decent man. It's a pity his spawn is a sociopath.



    L

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    I remember my liberal mother respected George Romney...can't remember why, but she did.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Kam, thanks. I think my problem was I was trying to copy a picture from somebody else's album and they have it copy protected. I was doing it the way you described and it wasn't working so that's all I can figure.

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited October 2012

    Kam, George Romney was a man of integrity. When running for President, he turned over 12 years of tax returns. He was compassionate, respectful of others. Apparently these qualities were not passed on to Willard.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Yep. Don't mess with the bird.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Although, this is pretty much what he plans to do to the nation:

    Photo

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Well it works now so I must have grabbed the wrong code before. 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2012

    The markets were absolutely packed and this was just before 7 am - everyone getting in early before the heat hits - I could feel it when I was coming home. Just washed a couple of floors and will now do nothing else all day except for maybe a leisurely swim.

    Gave Steve's helmet the cable tie treatment, but didn't use as many.

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited October 2012

    It is nice to know what type of picture is acceptable here.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    To those of you who are sending me kind, supportive PM's-please know that I am getting them but I cannot respond, due to my daily limit. 

    Thanks,

    Mary 

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012
  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Couldn't resize the picture.

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited October 2012

    Mary, Love you and will always support you.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Thanks, Bartender. That makes me a little teary. *sniff*

    Mary 

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Mary, I didn't send you a PM because I didn't know if you could even get them.  So let me say right here that I am very supportive of what you tried to address. I am having trouble believing what is considered acceptable here. 

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Thanks, RiverRat-me too.

    Mary 

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    Wow, have been away from the computer since late yesterday afternoon.  The thread moves quickly.  I know I shouldn't read (or post elsewhere), but yesterday I just had to chime in over there and correct a blatant lie.  I feel like though, maybe we are being "punked"......(wishful thinking!)  I mean, really......people really believe that Malcolm X is Obama's real father and that the clothing the First Family wore on election night was full of sinister symbolism?????  The tragic thing is, we are not being punked.  People really believe the most outrageous things!!!! 

    Love all the Big Bird cartoons!  Smile

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    OMG!!!  Can you believe Romney's latest still ad?  OMG!!!!

    Ok......that is a fake photo!  It was photoshopped.  I know, I know......can you believe that every single thing on the internet is not true?????

    Just wanted to prove a point Wink

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    President Obama Improved the Economy and Reduced the Debt

    1. 3,680,000 private sector jobs created since the end of the Bush Great Recession ref ref
    2. Expanded government's fight against fraud in Financial ref, Federal Contractor ref and Health Care areas ref
    3. $2,000,000,000,000 in deficit reduction ref
    4. He saved the economy from ruin (until the Tea Party took over Congress) with a stimulus that was as large as possible given the political realities ref
    5. Saved the US Auto Industry ref, ref
    6. Health Care Reform ref
    7. Reduced military spending by $500,000,000,000 ref

    President Obama Reigned in Wall Street Excesses

    8. Wall Street Reform ref ref ref
    9. Leaned on the banks to recover almost all "bailout money" with interest ref ref
    10. Saved the world from global financial collapse ref ref
    11. Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money. ref

    President Obama Made America Safer

    12. Killed Osama Bin Laden ref
    13. Killed a whole generation of al Qaeda leaders ref
    14. Stopped numerous terrorist attacks in this country ref ref
    15. Authorized and oversaw a secret mission by SEAL Team Six to rescue two hostages held by Somali pirates. ref
    16. Unified the world against Iran and brought unprecedented united international pressure against Iran's nuclear bomb potential ref
    17. More deportations per year than Bush ref
    18. Hired more border patrol agents than Bush ref

    President Obama Reduced Taxes

    19. Tax rates for average working families are the lowest since 1950. ref
    20. Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, cut taxes for 95% of America's working families. ref
    21. Reduced Social Security Taxes for 2011 and 2012 ref

    President Obama Brought More Efficiency to the Federal Government

    22. Smaller Government ref ref
    23. Fewer regulations than Bush ref

    President Obama Strengthened Personal Liberties

    24. Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act; Instituted equal pay for women. ref, ref, ref
    25. Expanded funding for the Violence Against Women Act. ref
    26. Support's states' right on medical marijuana ref
    27. Repealed "Don't ask don't tell" refref
    28. Appointed more openly gay officials than anyone in history. ref
    29. Extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. ref
    30. Changed HUD rules to prohibit gender and sexual orientation-based discrimination in housing ref
    31. Publicly expressed support for the right to enter into a same-sex marriage. ref
    32. Implemented much of Dream Act via Executive Order ref
    33. Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court ref

    President Obama Helped Make the World a Safer, More Democratic, and More American Friendly Place

    34. Ended the war in Iraq ref
    35. Established a date for transferring Afghanistan fighting to Afghanis. ref
    36. Toppled Gadhafi without an American casualty ref
    37. Fired the first salvo of the Arab Spring with his address in Cairo no less ref
    38. Has the Arab League watching Syria ref
    39. Presided over democratic revolutions in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and Bahrain
    40. Helped to restore America's reputation around the world as a global leader that does the "right thing" in world affairs, at least according to the rest of the world. ref ref
    41. On his second day in office, he signed a detailed Executive Order that banned torture, reversed all Bush torture policies, and put the United States in compliance with the Geneva Convention. ref ref
    42. Three new trade agreements ref

    President Obama Increased Respect and Public Support for American Soldiers

    43. Increased veterans/benefits every year ref ref
    44. Along with Congressional Democrats, not only reauthorized families of fallen soldiers to be able to visit when the body arrives at Dover AFB, but also provided funding for it. Ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers. ref ref
    45. Signed the Democratic-sponsored Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 ref

    President Obama Invested in Education

    46. Invested in college students: 1) by repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. ref ref ref 2) by reforming student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. ref and 3) by overseeing an expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low income students to go to college. ref
    47. Invested in primary education: Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. ref
    48. Oversaw major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide ref
    49. Oversaw major expansion in school construction. ref
    50. Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. ref

    President Obama Protected What We Eat, Drink and Breathe.

    51. Strengthened environmental protection via new laws and policies. ref ref ref ref ref ref ref.
    52. Fast-tracked regulations to dramatically increase fuel efficiency standards ref ref
    53. Strengthened the bond between clean energy and commerce by overseeing establishment of an Energy Partnership for the Americas, to create more markets for American-made biofuels and green energy technologies. ref Oversaw the creation of an initiative that converts old factories and manufacturing centers into new clean technology centers. ref
    54. Pushed through a tax credit to help people buy plug-in hybrid cars. ref
    55. Obama EPA reversed a Bush-era decision to allow the largest mountaintop removal project in US history. ref
    56. Turned America toward native sources of renewal energy Ordered energy plants to prepare to produce at least 15% of all energy through renewable resources like wind and solar, by 2021. ref (As you can see, Republicans are trying hard to kill it.)
    57. Created a program to develop renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that will produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. ref
    58. Bypassed Republican opposition in Congress and ordered EPA to begin regulating and measuring carbon emissions. ref
    59. Oversaw doubling federal spending on clean energy research. ref
    60. Reengaged in the climate change and greenhouse gas emissions agreements talks, and proposed one himself. He also addressed the U.N. Climate Change Conference, officially reversing the Bush era stance that climate change was a "hoax." ref ref ref

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/06/1128093/-President-Obama-s-Accomplishments-So-Far

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    Read this article on Joe Biden last month in New York Magazine.  It's pretty good:

     http://nymag.com/news/features/joe-biden-2012-9/

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited October 2012

    Mary

    I knew you had a PM limit but I want you to know I love and support you and wow just wow.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Yep.  It takes a Democrat to clean up a Republican's mess.  It took Bill Clinton 8 years to clean up 12 years of Republican destruction.  Barack Obama has done a good job so far in cleaning up the massive devastation caused by Bush.  The country ought to be pretty well on the right path at the end of President Obama's second term.

    Laughing

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Mitt Romney’s go-to campaign slogan “Keep America American” was a slogan used by the KKK in the 1920s! According to the Huffington Post, the KKK used the slogan to try to rally White supremacists to initiate violence and intimidation against African-Americans, as well as Catholics, gay people, and Jews.

    Now isn't the great wizard businessman aware of slogans? Hmmm  More dog whistleblowing.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Mary and Lassie, you rock for doing the right thing.  You absolutely rock and it was absolutely the right thing.  Don't give up doing the right thing!

    L

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Belinda-thank you for all those facts and all those source references. 

    Kam-Romney's slogan differs slightly-it's "Keep America America", but seems close enough. Can you imagine if President Obama had a slogan similar to a hate group's slogan?? Wait...he doesn't have to. He already has people making up stories about him and photoshopping pictures of him covering his heart with the wrong hand when saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

    Mary 

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited October 2012

    Belinda, your research is awesome. However,sadly, it is preaching to the choir. Those of us who support the President know this and try to get the word out. The opposition will NEVER acknowledge that he has done anything at all. They are woefully ignorant of his accomplishments and with to remain so. They will deny anything positive coming out of this Administration as lies. And when lies of Willard are exposed, they cry liar, liar. They live in their own world and reality has no place in it.

    Lassie and Mary, good work. Carry on!

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    Cherryl....I know, you're right.  But for any "on the fence" lurkers who read, just want to provide some info for consideration.

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