I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited September 2012

    I do think that the Dems have really pulled it out - wonderful speeches, yet I find the demise of the old Republican party, the disappearance of people like former Governor Crist and Olympia Snow, to be sad. They've thrown out anyone who's moderate, anyone who suggests compromise or cooperation with Dems.  I believe that the country does benefit from dialogue between different viewpoints, but I don't believe it's really possible with the current make-up of the Republican party.  

     

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2012

    Very good speech, quiet and mostly somber, but Pres. Obama gave us our hope back, and our courage I hope to stay the course.  -----Blue------touchdown.

    Jackie

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2012

    Yep and a hole in one!  OR as we like to say up here........He Shoots - He Scores!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    agree with what all have said, esp. alexandria - we NEED dialog, compromise to govern a multicultural society.  So many have commented on the vitriol of one party, and it makes it impossible to have a dialog.  Think it was cheryl who first used the word "tealiban" - which I have since used ( without attribution, so it is now widley used among many people I know) apologies, but it so fits the situation.  This destructive "fundamentalism" which all over the world, destroys.

    think that's part of what hurts so much - the desire to destroy what ever is experienced as "different" - yet, at what I was always taught was at the heart of most religions, is ( was) what is sometimes called "the golden rule" - or as those earliest residents in this country, were recording as saying "taking a walk in the other person's moccasins" - wisdom, source of so much of our environmental movement : Seventh Generation, making choices based on how it will effect the seventh generation to come....oh well,

    back to learning more about watercolor painting - feels good to know there is a group of kindred spirits ( here) hoping for the same future for us all...

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited September 2012

    Obama rocked it also IMO.  Some won't listen but I like to think common sense eventually gets through to most people. 

    Richard Lugar lost his primary too ... nasty the way they went after him.  I considered him an intelligent statesman and voted for him most of his career.  He lost me when he pandered to Bush/Cheney ... and he knew they were leading us into nothing but trouble.  He 'sqeaked up' a couple of times but was silenced quickly.  In spite of giving in to the radicals over and over again they still knifed him.  He should have known better.  All of the moderates should have known better IMO.   

    I want a President who cares about all of the people of this country.  The feeling I get with some is that they see the country as their personal play sets.  To do with whatever benefits them and cements their position as 'top dog'. 

    Speaking of dog ... today's project is a trip to Petsmart.  And a search for an ornamental tree of some sort for the backyard.  The freeze we got late and then the drought took out our flowering plum bush and the magnolia bush.  New weeping willow tree is growing like a weed though.

    Hope everybody has a good Friday.      

  • Dilly
    Dilly Member Posts: 655
    edited September 2012

    This message is for Athena - and has nothing to do with politics.  When I seen feline photos of the leonine variety, I think of you.  Today's London Daily Telegraph has a wonderful photo series with lions & cubs.  I'm not technical & my link feature has never worked on BCO, but www.telegraph.co.uk will take you to the main page, scroll most of the way down, on the left hand side.  I think you'd enjoy.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2012
    There were two byelections yesterday in Ontario. The minority Liberals wanted to win both of them to gain a majority. The third party Conservatives wanted to win something to gain credibility for their less than popular leader. The left leaning New Democratic Party wanted to win too. It turned out that the Conservatives lost the seat they had to the NDP and the Liberals maintained one seat. No majority for the Liberals who inexplicably have declared war on teachers and other public service workers. Popularity of the NDP is rising as the Conservatives sink.  There might be hope.
    It causes rumbling in my brain when the talking heads on TV say that the US election is close and Romney could win. My tummy flips a bit too. Most worrisome.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    lost creek

    I read that site often http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ don't see what you are referring to???

  • Dilly
    Dilly Member Posts: 655
    edited September 2012

    Sorry, I forgot that the "In Pictures" section rotates.  If you go there, and scroll sideways, it shows the varying photo displays.  This one is  "Three Sets of Cubs".

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2012

    Seems a lot of US politicians have truly forgotten the definition:  "Politics is the art of compromise".  It's not the "Our party lost but we're not going to let the other party govern".

    And, like Lassie, I fear that this behaviour is creeping northward. 

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited September 2012

    Sorry to hear that Lassie and Linda. I am so tired of it here. I'm hoping we can move forward with an Obama win.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2012

    With the byelections yesterday, I see hope provincially, Linda. It is fairly clear that the governing party attack on teachers and public service workers caused them to lose to the NDP in one of the byelections. Also municipally, the very right wing Toronto mayor is in trouble and may even be booted from office. There are a few more years for the federal conservatives to do what they do and then maybe we can make a left turn federally.

    I'd like to think that the extremism of the American Republicans is waking Canadians up to what could happen. We do have one federal Tory musing about making union fees optional and another making noises about when life starts -  but I think/hope neither of them will get enough traction to bother us on those issues.  There are enough other issues where the Tories (that's the conservatives here) are doing Bad Things.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    Could anyone please explain how dismissing all members of a different party, and calling them names like "tealiban" inspires members of that party to work with the other side? 

    I too want a President who cares about ALL the people of this country, not one who dismisses many of them because they don't share his world view, who listens for years to a pastor who condones violence against people based on their race(talk about self-loathing), and who pits one group against another to make himself seem cool. 

    What do you find inspiring about a woman who lies about who she is to obtain favorable status when seeking admission to school, and employment, and promotion?  Does it not bother you that in her false claims of Native American status she may have prevented someone or several someones who actually have that qualification from getting ahead because their slot in that institution's affirmative action program was already filled by this impostor?

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2012

    OMG.........from the Duped DArk Side and every nasty other thing we are called.

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited September 2012

    It's getting closer to Friday afternoon and the weekend. Thought I'd share a new Margahrita recipe with you:

    2 0z Silver Tequila

    1 oz Cointreau

    1/4 oz fresh squeezed lime juice

    Shake over ice and serve. Enjoy

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2012
  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited September 2012

    A beer, or two, would be nice right now.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited September 2012

    Blue - the "duped dark side?"  Really?  That name alone is intrinsically "dismissing" all, now isn't it.

  • kad2kar
    kad2kar Member Posts: 336
    edited September 2012

    I have read and watched Horrible murder mysteries and I dont go around killing people. Watched scary horror films, never saw a Vampire or Zombie. Watched poor girl gets rich movies and read stories,too. NEVER got rich. Just saying, Patmom, just listening, watching, reading DOES NOT mean you are going to be that way. I am a non violent,peaceful person, who will back off of any type of violence. But Im also a person who does not like silliness, dropping in on conversations that have nothing do do with me. Have a good weekend.----------kad2kar  p.s. this is just my own opinion

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012

    I'll have a skinny marguerita with my enchilada plate!

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited September 2012

    I'll have brussel sprouts sauteed in some olive oil please.Wink

      

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2012

    It's Friday at 4 - I'm off to the pub.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited September 2012

    I am actually off to see The Zac Brown Band shortly.  Love them.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2012

    Margarita please. 

    Mary-The "Libturd" Laughing (Yes, the terms they use are really classy and intellingent.) 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited September 2012

    Hi Everyone ... I haven't been around too much lately ... and this group moves really fast!

    Pip ... Sure wish I was going with you tonight, sounds like lots of fun.

    Blue ... The Duped Darkside website really chafes my chaps.  Talk about namecalling ... geez.

    I have great news!  I got another new client this week.  My marketing is starting to work.  I am so excited.  And the reports are fun to do.  They are different than the usual psycho-educational reports I do.  This doctor does neuropsych work and it's really interesting!  Yay for me!  I'm still sending out my brochures and letters.  I figured out it takes about 100-150 mailings to get one client.

    Hope everyone is having a happy Friday.

    hugs,

    Bren

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited September 2012

    Bartender ... I'm going to skip the drink, but I could use a Vicodin!  I have the worst headache this afternoon.

    I'll be in North Carolina next week, and I sure wish I could see you again.

    love ya,

    Bren

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2012

    YAY for Bren!

    My favourite is Demwit!  LMBO!

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited September 2012

    That marg sounds perfect. But it's Friday, so DH and I will have a Bombay Sapphire Martini tonight while we watch NPR.

    Finally a cool day, not even 70 degrees. But there will be limited color in the mountains this fall. The leaves are turning brown before the turn yellow. Damn drought.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    There is a bit of a difference between watching a movie that you know is a work of fiction for two hours one evening, and listening in church every week for years to a pastor who is supposed to be instructing you in the specific beliefs of your religion when it comes to shaping the way you live your life and your attitudes toward other people. 

    Would you feel as generous toward someone who brought impressionable young children to family friendly events run by a white supremacist group?  In my book both the followers of black liberation theology and white supremacists are hate groups, just with different targets for their anger. 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited September 2012

    One of my favorite lines of Thursday night..before you have a debate like this with your opponent, you should first debate the matter with yourself...paraphrased.

    Oh, btw, pdx is beautiful today, though too much smoke to see St Helens or Mt Hood. Leaving the PS to get some Thai Salad Rolls from
    A nearby foodcart. I'm a country girl in the big city today!

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