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  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited July 2009

    WOW - I missed tons this weekend.  Nettie - hugs  to you,  xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo.

    Welcome home Linda.  Hope you had fun.

    Barbe,  I am able to get 500mg B12's @ Wal*Mart.

    My brain is on freakin overload this AM, what started out as a wonderful weekend ended up being hell and I am at a loss right now,   I am a mom and I can't stand not being able to fix my child's hurt.  Jaclyn's DH whom I have always kinda liked (Typical MIL feelings) lost his mind or something,  he got laid off several months ago and has been playing MR Mom,  I will say he is an awesome dad,  just wonderful with the kids and they love him so,  and if nothing else I have always respected that about him,   I don't know all the details,  I don't know what provoked what but OMG you should see Jaclyns neck where he choked her -  she passed out.  I am crying so bad just thinking about this again,  he of coarse is gone,  she won't tolerate that,  but she is a mess, wondering "WHY"  the kids are tramatized  - especially Alexcis,  and I don't know what to do.  Why does shit have to happen,  I want to live in fairy tale land where everything is perfect. I hate being alive right now.  I hate it.

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited July 2009

    Cathi, I don't know what to say. Did she take out a restraining order on him? After my 1st spouse did the same thing to me in addition to fracturing my sinus and jaw, I went to the magistrate to take out a restraining order and he told me to think about it for 24 hours before signing the order. I didn't go back to sign the order but should have. It would have changed the visitation on my divorce papers, showing that he was violent.

    Sheila

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2009

    Cathi, your post takes my breath away. 

    Prayers that your family is able to find the right balance between keeping Jaclyn and the children safe, and the level of forgiveness that will eventually be needed to keep the kids lives as normal as possible. 

    ((((((gentle hugs)))))) while you all figure out how to move forward.

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited July 2009

    Shelia she did not even call the police,  she loaded up the kids and came over here and told him he was to LEAVE - he did and is staying at his brothers, her neck is awful,  I wanted to take pictures, she would not let me, I can not even believe he did what he did, I am shocked too. Forgiveness, I don't know about that as far as I am concerned.  I sure did screw up my DD's.  #2 will be here soon with hers whom I know already I can not stand. AT ALL

  • dkhancock1948
    dkhancock1948 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2009

    Cathi:  You will be in my prayers.  OMG. I feel for you.  I don't care how old your kids get, they are still your babies.  You hurt so much when they are hurt and struggling. You just want to make everything right. It is so hard sometimes to be a parent of grown children.  You have to let them make their own decisions, even though you have your gut feelings.  Thank the Lord, he stopped and that he is gone.  I hear of so many women that stay in situations that are very unhealthy.  I don't know what makes a person snap.  There is a very fine line.

    Just be there, as I know you are, as a mother, grandmother, friend, helper, listener - all the things that you do as a mother to grown children.  Hold those grandbabies close whenever they let you.  It sounds like you have a great relationship with them.  They are very fortunate.

    I would like a fairy tale world, too, where everything goes along great all the time.  Unfortunately, we don't live there. 

    Please know that we all hold you in our arms.  If we could be the army for Jaclyn and her kids, we would be there. 

    (((((Cathi)))))

    (((((Jaclyn and kids)))))

    Debbie

  • dkhancock1948
    dkhancock1948 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2009

    Cathi: I have never been in the situation that your daughter has, so I don't know what she is going through or the thoughts that must be racing through her mind or your grandbabies.  Thank goodness, you are there for her.  Hopefully, she will let you take pictures, even if you won't use them right now. There may come a time she would need those pictures. 

    Sheila, I am sorry you had to go through that, too.

     Debbie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2009

    Cathi, it will take a level of forgiveness to let him see the kids ever again.  You and Jaclyn will eventually get there, for the kids' sake, but you will also never put them in a situation where their safety is in question. 

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009

    Oh My!

    Nettie- hugs and prayers that you are feeling better!

    Barbe- gotta get that stone rollin'!!! I'm sure B52s will help w/stone AND energy levels Wink. Really hope you feel better soon and doc is able to help tomorrow.

    Lisa- ack what a weekend. I have been on Femara for 2 1/2 yrs--much of what you have described sounds like se's from the AI you're on. Hope you can get some relief (pm me if you want -- I would be happy to share some of what has helped me over the last few yrs- not perfect but better)

    Cathi- I was shocked at the post. As a mom I understand the feeling of wanting to protect our children and live in a fairy tale. My prayers are w/dd and her children. I hope she is able to see what she needs to do w/ open eyes and a clear mind, and pray for the strength to do it. Hugs

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009

    Karen- hang in there. Being able to spend time w/ grandma maybe just the breather everyone needs.

    Linda- welcome home, missed you.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2009

    Oh, Cathi! I am stunned. You have coped with so much and with an amazing attitude. But this! When does it end? I can imagine all kinds of scenarios that could cause the guy to flip out, but the way he did it is over the top. The good news is that he came to his senses, stopped, and left. I hope he gets some help. Your focus, of course, is your daughter and granddaughter. At the very time you need the most support, here you are being needed in a painful, intense way. No wonder you are fed up with life. Know that you are loved here and that no one needs anything from you right now and everyone is willing to listen. So little, but something. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Cathi)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Judie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2009

    Karen, in step-parent situations, the issue is very often one of attention...who gets it and at what cost. One thing I did, that my kids still remember and use in their own families, was to create a schedule. Each one got to be "Captain" for a week with coveted privileges such as riding in the front seat of the car, controlling the TV choices, staying up an hour later, and an outing with me...dinner, movie, walk in the park...their choice.

    That, of course, was a plan to deal with sibling rivalry when I was a single parent of four. But creating a plan, whether private or shared with the family, where Rhuel, Portia, and Chase each knew they had your full attention in a loving, positive way might relieve a litlle of the tension. Not a cure, but a positive to offset some of the negative energy going on right now. You don't get to truly enjoy any of the people you love. Right now, trying to do things "as a family" might not work well.

    Blessings,

    Judie

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009

    Judie- that is a great idea!

  • dkhancock1948
    dkhancock1948 Member Posts: 433
    edited July 2009

    Cathi: How is everyone this afternoon?  Debbie

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited July 2009

    Thanks for the welcome back, Ladies.

    Cathi, I feel so awful for you, your daughter and your grandchildren.  I'm so glad he left and she did not get hurt worse than she did. (Which is horrible in the first place!)  You should try and take pictures encase you need the in the future.  He could come back or worse, she may want him back and forget what he did to her.  I will keep you all in my prayers.  When you find that fairy tale land, please let the rest if us know, we all want to be there with you.

    Take care,

    Linda

  • livesstrong
    livesstrong Member Posts: 1,799
    edited July 2009

    Hi All,

    ((((((((((((((Cathi))))))))))))))) - sending major hugs south, what happened to your DD  was just awful. Your grandkids should not be subjected to that either.  God, I swear it never ends.

    Well it's official - the trip is canceled. UB went to the onky again today who immediately sent him to a lung specialist. He told Bill he thinks he might have pcp pneumonia. It is very common in AIDS & cancer patients and is very serious. He put him on 2 antibiotics and in a week he wants him to have a chest xray. If it still hasn't improved he will need to go into the hospital for a procedure where they will have to take samples of lung tissue to see for sure what it is and how to treat it. He told him flat out he doesn't want him to travel anywhere, especially overseas. So seeing our Sue has been put on hold - I am so uspset about everything I could just scream!!!CryYell

    Please pray the antbiotics work

    So that's it in a nut shell, as always,  the fun continues...........


    AE

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited July 2009

    Cathi, so sorry to hear what happened to your daughter. Hang in ... things have to get better.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited July 2009

    Cathi, so sorry to hear what happened to your daughter. Hang in ... things have to get better.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2009

    Oh, AE!!!! I am in tears. I have no words. You have my constant prayers.

  • TenderIsOurMight
    TenderIsOurMight Member Posts: 4,493
    edited July 2009

    I just wanted to let Sue know I am thinking of her Dad and she. I am sorry he too is having problems and hope he turns the corner soon.

    My best to you all,

    Tender

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited July 2009

    Oh AE!  I'm so sorry that you have to cancel your trip.  I know how much you and UB (and Sue) were looking forward to it!  I will keep you both in my prayers.  I hope the anitibiotics work quickly for you.

    HUGS!

    Linda

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited July 2009

    OMG, so much sadness on this thread today! My heart bleeds for you and yours Cathi. I commend you for not hunting him down and doing bodily harm!

    AE, you must be in shock too! You've had the rug pulled out from under you. Please give UB a HUGE hug from me (enough to squeeze all the bad crap out of him!)

    Sue, we need to hear how your Dad is doing, you both have been in my prayers.

    My prayers are getting awfully full lately....I hate that feeling. Cry

  • livesstrong
    livesstrong Member Posts: 1,799
    edited July 2009

    Thanks ladies - keep your fingers crossed the drugs work.

    I'll keep you posted.

    AE

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited July 2009

    Hi Sisters xxx

    My dad came out of hospital yday , the tests have shown something in his oesophragus , he has to wait 4 weeks for results, they have given him drugs for the bleeding. I spoke to him on the phone last night and he is not well at all. I will be going to see him this weekend xx

    AE I am thinking of you both ..... I am still shocked. I hate bootface.

    Sorry

    I love you all xxx

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2009

    cathi, what can I say? Violence is never the answer. But counseling is a definite for everybody...anger management for Jacklyn's DH, and something soothing for Jacklyn and the kids. I hope things work out for the best.

    AE...what a disappointment! I do hope UB is not terribly sick. Obviously, something is wrong, but I pray that's it's the most minimal it can be.

    Off to work.

  • livesstrong
    livesstrong Member Posts: 1,799
    edited July 2009

    Sue - then you taking time off from work this weekend because of our visit will actually work out for you - you will get to see your Dad. I'm so glad.

    Sending positive energy and major hugs across the pond.

    AE

  • EWB
    EWB Member Posts: 2,927
    edited July 2009

    Oh goodness...So awful to hear about UB! but I am so glad it was discovered before the trip got started. Difficult to be ill some where else, away from all the familiar. Prayers for UB that the drugs work quickly and he is out of danger.

    Cathi- thinking of you and dd all night. Hoping things are calmer this morning. Hugs

    Hugs for Sue's dad.

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited July 2009

    Oh..I don't know where to begin!!

    (((((((((((Cathi))))))))))))))(((((((((((((Jacqueline))))))))))))))...so sorry my sweet girls, that you are going through this. Coming from a domestic home that had a man with a bad temper and would use his force..please get help!! If she does not want to get a restraining order, then at least DEMAND that he gets some counseling.  No matter how civil he was before, something drove him to that point of harming someone else!! He needs to talk with someone and learn how to deal with his anger. I am so sorry you are going through yet another thing Cathi. What have you found out about your scans? I forget..you did have them done correct?  Please tell your daughter to stay with you, but to try and tell him...he needs HELP!  It will happen again, if he doesn't learn to control his emotions.

    Sue...honey, I am so sorry your sweet Dad is not doing well. I will pray for him.  Val and UB cancelling their trip, this may all work out in the end, where they will be coming at a better time for you.

    Val...omg...I was shocked, mouth dropped open when I read your post! I am sorry you are missing your trip...but I am also sorry UB is dealing with yet another health issue. I pray the antibiotics work quickly for him.  Just an FYI, make sure when you call the airline...you tell them it was an emergency health issue...hopefully you can avoid all change and rebooking fees!! Be sweet, and plead your case...they should waive all fee's given your circumstances. I hope it all works out for a better time for all 3 of you!

    I have my OC apt today at 4pm. I will talk with her about my tests/scans, blood work, and also about an AI or tamox...or preferably something natural.  Honestly, without ovaries...how much estrogen am I really producing?  I know you do thru your fat cells and adrenal glands...but not as much as the ovaries.  Maybe that is why the AI is so hard on me.  I will not go back on an AI....not enough research for me...and too much damage!

    Keeping you all in my thoughts.

    xoxo

    Lisa

  • cloudhowe
    cloudhowe Member Posts: 236
    edited July 2009

    My God. I havent logged on for a couple of days and so much bad news!



    My cousin and his daughter left last night and there is a ringing silence in the house. It was stressful being upbeat because I am feeling at a low ebb just now, drained of energy and full of self pity, but I really miss them. I am seeing my consultant tomorrow to arrange for an echocardiograph and dates for rads and Herceptrin, then I think I will take a break in Blackpool, seeing family and friends and getting a bit of sea air before the next stage of treatment.



    Cathi, I am at a loss for words. what a traumatic time for you, Jacklyn and the kids. On top of her diagnosis, she must be at her wits end. Thank god she has you. I am sure the stress of losing his job, a massive trauma, prompted his outburst. No excuse, I know, but money worries can drive someone insane. Is this an isolated incident? You had some regard for your SIL so I hope something can be salvaged if their marriage was a good one previously. But broken trust is hard, if not impossible, to regain. He had the decency to leave and might be hating himself just now, but Jacklyn has to put her and the kids safety first. What a mess! I wish there were some magic dust I could sprinkle (I keep getting that image in my head these days, about everything) to make things right It just ain't fair that you have all of this on your plate when you have your own demons to battle. I will have prayers said for you. My sister is very friendly with The White Friars, a Monestry. The monks are the kindest, most gentle people imaginable. There are quite a few of you in their prayers! I am 'the auld heathen' of my Irish Catholic family, but I feel better if I have done this. Hope you don't mind.



    AE, I am so very sorry that UB has contracted pneumonia. Are the antibiotics oral? Will they delay the chemo? Especially now that it is working well? It seems that they have caught it early, thank god. Sorry you have had to postpone your trip. You must be so disappointed. Do you plan to came over later, once UB has the all clear?



    My brother contracted it and it stopped his chemo. His cancer was different, he was terminal, so it was the chemo that was basically keeping him alive. He was very weak when he got it, so didn't stand a chance. That's one of the reasons I have been so sad, it was his 3rd anniversary on the 13th.



    Sue, at least you know your dad is in good hands. That's an awful long time to wait for results though. Is there anyone to care for him at home? You might want to contact social services and the Occupational Therapy unit to see if he needs amendments to his house, laundry done, meals being delivered etc There is quite a lot of help out there, but you usually have to seek it out unless you have had a good social worker in the hospital. It's pants when your loved ones are miles away, isn't it? Even a journey of a few hours is too long. At least you'll be able to spend some time with him now you are on holiday. I am to have WTC ended on August 13th, you only get it for 28 weeks, so money will be awful tight. I'll have to find a relatively well paid job pretty damn quick as I have plundered all of my savings. I still have had no word on DLA, though I am assured that I will get it. They are inundated apparently. So many people applying. Think a lot of it is the stress of redundancies and the recession. I have a Welfare Right Officer pushing it for me, she is campaigning for cancer sufferers to be fast tracked. Anyway, additional stress. I have never been in this situation in my life, never had debts, never missed a credit card payment or a loan payment, always had enough to live on and a few grand in savings, so this is new to me. I am tired but can't sleep. Jeez - enough about me!!



    Lisa, hope your results are sparkling! Your post always make me smile. Funny, I can't bear the thought of any of you suffering! Any more news on the dating front! 'Fess up!



    Barbe, Mick Jagger!!!!!! I've told everyone about it. You should be on stage girl. What are they going to do about it. Don't they dissolve them with some kind of sonar?? My Dear Uncle Peter (He was the spitting image of Sean Connery!) passed 4 stones, 2 of them about 2 cm, and really quite beautiful! My auntie was going to have earrings made of them!! only kidding, but she still has them and they DO live in her jewellery box!! do know that he was in great pain and passing them, well, he claims he gave birth to them!



    Och well, I am sorry for the tough times so many of us seem to be having, your kind words always help. I suppose I will just have to adapt to a different kind of "normal", physically, financially and emotionally. I so wish I had my old life back, just one bit of it. I wish I could motivate myself to go to Maggies Centre or the Haven where cancer patients, current and cured, and their families and friends can meet , do projects etc. Maybe I just can't accept that's the new "normal" Once bootface has infected you, it leaves it's mark doesn't it?



    OK depressed you gals quite enough!



    I will let you know the results of my meeting with Mr Yusef tomorrow, and remind myself - again - that I am lucky to be alive! . I spoke to the registrar before my op and asked him if I hadn't acted would the cancer have killed me and he said "Yes, and probably within a year!". I should be smelling flowers better, water should taste better and I should look at the world in a whole shiny new light. That's the impression I am giving everyone, but inside I am scared, I am still sore, had my bum fluff hair shaved when I got my new Irish Jig, so I'm baldy, my feet are still numb, I still don't have an appetite, though I havent lost wieght (nope, there are no good s/e of this girls bootface), I lack energy, am pessimistic. Not a good look!



    Sorry again, so many of you are having a much harder time then me, but this is so cathatric letting this out. I know I am probably depressed, I was following the death of my dad so I know the signs. When I was dx, my doc prescribed an anti stress tab called Lofepramine, I don't know if they are any good, and I havent taken them religously. I will make an appointment to see her next week, need to get the swine flu jab and I'll discuss it with her



    Sending massive hugs to you all, and especially to all of you who are toughing this out. My mantra is "this too shall pass".



    Love from Scotland



    Nettie xx

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited July 2009

    Great post Nettie, thanks for the update!

    As for Mick, he is to die on July 24th! I saw the specialist yesterday and took DH with me and wore NO makeup. The doc took one look at said he wanted a CT scan to confirm, yet again, what the ultrsound last Friday showed. I was torn! It would take WEEKS to months to get a CT. Nope. He sent me across the street to the hospital and I got it in 30 minutes! I took the CD back to his office and surgery is booked for next Friday! Woo hoo! He also gave me Demerol to add to my pain cocktail. He is my new best friend! Kiss

    They can't shatter it as it is too big. It has been in there too long for me to pass (at least a year now at the size it is). Not quite big enough for him to have to go through my back. What he is going to try first is to go through my eurethra and up through my bladder and into the ureter and pluck it out. He will leave a stent in to keep the ureter from collapsing and scarring together and then I pull it out three days later with a tampon-like string that is attached. OUCH! 

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited July 2009

    I haven't checked in for a while. Just scanned the last few pages...I was so sad to read of all the dilemmas and sad things that have happened to many of you.

    (((((((((((((((Cathi & Jacklyn and kids))))))))))))))), (((((((((((((((UB&AE))))))))))))))),

    (((((((((((((((Sue & your Dad))))))))))))))), (((((((((((((((Barbe))))))))))))))), (((((((((((((((Lisa))))))))))))))),

    (((((((((((((((Nettie))))))))))))))) - I am praying for you all and sending my love to you and everyone else here.

    Jane xoxoxxo

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