how to treat an ulcerated (breast) tumor

Tara17

wrenn --above you mention that a lady with a benign diagnosis gives advice to newly diagnosed BC women ? I have been on BCO since January since my own diagnosis --was initially very wary about beign on an online site and posting so much personal info , but seeing how much i learnt from the ladies who were truly going through this experience made me value and appreciate and open up to this community. With all due respect to everyone, and not trying to hijack this thread, the fact that the mods are ok with benign folks without cancer posting advice to cancer patients and people self diagnosing with cancer can post here, makes me start to worry that this site isnt as tightly moderated as i thought it was and I start to worryabout how much trust i have placed in BCO....

Lisey

This does feel like an attempt to hijack Abigail's thread. If you have a concern, post a new thread... let's let Abigail's thread go back to her, and our concern and love for her.

farmerlucy

Abigail - I miss you. The information you shared was always interesting to me. I hope you are doing well and that your breast wound has improved. Xoxo

wrenn

I too miss Abigail and hope she is doing ok. I think this situation is very different than someone still coming back and asking for help when they are fine and actually diagnosed benign. Abigail is elderly and alone. Also, Abigail's thread does not show up on the main page so it is basically for her community of supporters.

I respect her stoicism and determination to solve her issue with her own research. I am not that brave. Of course I would love to see her have her tumour surgically removed to save her having to spend so much time and energy taking care of it but I understand her fears regarding her bleeding disorder.

If you read this Abigail I hope you will come back and let us know how you are doing. Take care.

obsolete

Hi Abigail,

Belated 80th birthday wishes to you and hopefully you are silently doing OK and enjoying all the warmth & brightness which summer brings. I'm sending you positive energy and still think of you often, while remembering you in prayer & meditation. Please send a PrivateMessage if you ever feel like chatting.

Although I'm not aware if you ever received an unofficial diagnosis on your mass, I thought I would post a link to a similar case which may be of some interest to you because the patient had refused treatment, but had been followed by medical staff for 10 years with a slow progression of disease with NO evidence of distant mets, but some of the patient's lymph nodes were slightly enlarged.

"...Skin abutting the tumor showed progression to necrosis with a foul-smelling discharge...."

(2017 Case Report) https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crim/2017/3725391...

BigBear Hugs go out to you!!

obsolete

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/121/topic...

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abigail48

hello everyone. I kept my promise not to post until autumn which has now arisen. I did add bounce who wanted to read my alternative posts but made no other comments. I did make a sort list of those who appeared to be a support, it's no doubt incomplete; peaches. michelle, wren, hove? farmer lucy I was 80 in may, and have slowed down a lot, pretty much house bound. not doing much for the beast, still eat no meat and

now no eggs, but occasional half and half, coffee sometimes and raviolli chease whatever that's called. still using the homeopathy pellets though I currently ran out, from the rads thread I now spray organic green tea on it after the hot wate r has run out in my daily shallow baths It's grown quite a bit in these six months, I'm pouring calendula hydrosol on it again in the bath, it was said to cause two kinds of cell death. I guess so. if I could afford to bath in it., the old kind of cell death usually has new growth under it. so now into year eight with no kind of conventional treatment, enough for now, talk to you soon probably

farmerlucy

Oh Abigail! What a joy to open up BCO and find you here. Yay and whew! So glad you're ok.

abigail48

I keep the green tea in the spray bottle in the fridge. feel good on it, great rads tip

wrenn

Thanks so much for updating us Abigail. It is good to hear from you. Sorry you are housebound but I hope you are enjoying your days. Please keep checking in. Take care

abigail48

yes. I'm so impatient. sometime these six months I had the biggest bleed so far. what a mess. as for enjoyment I'm totally hooked to outander for my 80th birthday my helpers gave me a big hanging planter of flowers, still blooming now on the covered porch

rameshd33

Hi Abigail, So good to see you posting again. As regards to giving up on no meat etc, please keep watch on the possible protein loss from the weeping ulcers. A bit of good protein may help replenish any losses through the wound and keep you strong.

Your decision to restart posting made my day,

Cheer

abigail48

too much protein bad for kydneys among much else, and a chemical in meat feeds cancer, I don;t have the energy any longer to cook so I heat amy's bowls, most have brocolli and tofu. lots of protein, what makes me weak isn't lack of protein but carlessness in changing the dressing triggering a bleed. by the way as in the original site how to treat etc, the author says to make dressings ahead. very very good idea

abigail48

too much protein bad for kydneys among much else, and a chemical in meat feeds cancer, I don;t have the energy any longer to cook so I heat amy's bowls, most have brocolli and tofu. lots of protein, what makes me weak isn't lack of protein but carlessness in changing the dressing triggering a bleed. by the way as in the original site how to treat etc, the author says to make dressings ahead. very very good idea

abigail48

wrote an update on progression seems to have vanished" smaller cyst on the left hasn't risen or come through, it's still rolley polley but there's now two small nodes under that arm and the big one under the nail place is half red

MrsChang

Greetings Abigail,

What a relief to see that you're posting again. I've been following this thread for quite a while as we seem to have a similar problem. In my case it started in 2015 with lumpy bumps on the right breast which then swelled, burst, and burst again, and now there's bleeding and draining. My regular doctor was horrified and wanted to refer me back to the cancer clinic, but that won't do at all, as I know that their conventional treatment doesn't do any good (it didn't in that whole year of 2013 when I underwent chemo, surgery and letrozole). Right now it's self-treatment for me, and that's another long storybook.

Anyway, it's great that you've survived all this time, and I'm looking forward to getting better and surviving. It helps to do our own research and share experiences.

All the best,

MrsChang

abigail48

hi mrs chang. what a story, sounds like the trouble was a result of the treatment. was going to next mention the cough, now going on eleven years, not gotten better or much worse in these six months. what is really troublesome, is the other immune disfunction while not really life threatening gives me misery day after day and year after year. let it be nameless, has a nasty name, dr google says five and a half million americans suffer from it....at least I guess this one I didn't get from a mistake of my own incurable of course and twice now the cold green tea spray has triggered a bleed, perhaps I don't let it dry long enough

exbrnxgrl

mrs chang,

I am sorry that you have had a recurrence, but at least you know that you have breast cancer and even if you don't choose conventional tx, you can choose alternatives based on that diagnosis.

abigail,

Glad to hear that you are still with us. Given that you are still alive, after such a long period of time, I would venture to guess that you don't have breast cancer at all. It's a shame that you don't know what you're treating. I have often wondered if you could have been spared years of problems if you had a diagnosis of exactly what your condition is. You know, despite my strong feelings about your assumption of breast cancer without any diagnosis, I am glad that you are still well.

Artista928

I echo what exbrnxgrl said. Glad to see you back. Sending you well wishes.

wrenn

I find posts scolding a woman in her 80s on her own thread petty and shameful? Not sure what the benefit is.

Lisey

Totally Agree Wrenn.

Artista928

Who's scolding? Thinking of how if abigail knew exactly what she's dealing with to help her take care of it is not scolding. What words scream scolding to you? And we all wish her well whatever she does.....

abigail48

hi ex bronx girl, very glad to see your post too, been a long time. but what else could it be, grows, has veins and arteries feeding it, everything such a breast tumor has. I don't do drs because they've always been either useless or damaging. I got thjs trouble using a pharma, birth control pills, they never said caused cancer, still I should have figured it out myself bit I'm certainly not gping back to one of them to get more of the same

abigail48

and I've lasted so long I expect one, because i've done no toxic treatments, no surgery, mamograms or toxic diagnosies (exrays, or that bit where they puncture the skin and take a sample of whatever) pharmas radiation (what idiocy that is, just read about what a poor woman is suffering from that treatment on the rads thread here) I don't drink alcoholic drinks, or smoke anything now for over 10 years, I havn't eaten meat for decades and now I've given u p eggs my use of dairy is very limited. I eat no refined sugar (though too much maple syrup) but I do doubt I'll last much longer, I no longer have the energy to cook so my options for food is limited and I no longer, and havn't for years walked three miles or more a day and at 80 my time is running out with the natural order of things

abigail48

I also may have a genetic advantage, my father drank until he was my age, and smoked for as long and lived to age 92. we both had/have teeny celtic stature and bones which I expect helps too, I'm now five five, lost an inch along the way, but have always been thin and small boned

exbrnxgrl

Abigail,

Whatever differences you and I have had, and there were more than a few, you sure have an admirably strong constitution. That's a good thing. And no, I won't speculate on what your troubles might be. That's way, way out of my scope of expertise.

PS: Although I have some blocked users, I take it that some thought I was scolding you. Not sure how hoping you'd get an accurate dx is scolding. I am aware of your history and know it won't happen, but scolding, it was not.

abigail48

agreed. I always counted you as friend and definitely not one of my bullies who seem to mostly have quieted down as yet

abigail48

going to be quite afraid this morning when I change the dressing, as I had a bad bleed today and tomorrow a rain event is coming in. I keep my cell phone close to be able to phone my helpers if disaster strikes

abigail48

going to be quite afraid this morning when I change the dressing, as I had a bad bleed today and tomorrow a rain event is coming in. I keep my cell phone close to be able to phone my helpers if disaster strikes

farmerlucy

Hi Abigail - I have a good friend who is an oncologist. I am seeing him this weekend. Would you have any interest in knowing what he thinks yourulcerated tumor might be? I can ask him.