INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

Wren44

I'm not surprised you're exhausted. As time goes on, the anxiety does fade. I'm almost 2 years out, and it's retreated to the background. Is it possible that a different antidepressant would work better with the Levaquin? I understand the reluctance to change that aspect, I finally found an antidepressant that worked long term and am extremely reluctant to change it.

tangandchris

I've gone round and round about the Celexa and Levaquin...tried tapering off of the celexa, but I felt so sick. I just can't do that right now. The Levaquin is the only thing that will kill this bacteria...is pseudonomas. I was on IV's for 2 weeks but started having a reaction, so now they want me on the Levaquin. I'm sure I will be fine, it's just that nothing has gone smoothly since the cancer dx. haha...I guess how could it right?

Luvmygoats-it's VERY windy here..just picked up suddenly too.

sas-schatzi

Nj---------- LMG is right re: Shoulder. I mentioned similar stuff in a previous post. Position before, during , and after surgery all impact body parts. As an operating room nurse. Some of the very first lessons were on proper positioning. Improper position can lead to a myriad of problems. I had a cousin that awoke after mastectomy surgery and her arm was paralysed. It happened b/c of improper positioning. She did regain use , but it took along time. Positioning is a learned skill. It should never be taken for granted. It's the circulating nurses responsibility. Under certain circumstances the doc takes the lead and positions the patient themselves, or the doc checks the position before scrubbing.

This link is to pictures of shoulder anatomy. It also shows where shoulder pain can be felt. You'll be surprised. After the link, i'm going to try to retrieve the pic

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Shoulder+Pain&...

The pic page is too long. Start at the top ----there is a schematic of where the pain is, and a human pic of where someone would touch to feel the pain, then the internal anatomy. The bottom line is you have pain. The shoulder girdle includes the scapula, shoulder, clavicle, arm. When you have "something occur" that changes the normal positioning of the arm, pain can result.

What Little goats said about seeing your doc is important. Start with surgeon>>>>then referrals if needed.

sas-schatzi

To all Levaquin is being more carefully used b/c of adverse event reports. 

Nj as Littlegoats inquired re: the culture. If you are that concerned ask what the sensitivity of the culture showed. It's numerically based. The closer the sensitivity number is to 1 the better the bacteria will be killed. 

Celexa is a ssri or SNRI neither drug group can switch from one drug to another drug without some consequence. It's not toothpaste. 

ASK doc what the sensitivity of the next best drug on the sensitivity report was? AND his rationale for using levaquin with a known drug interaction with celexa?

Blessings2011

Morning, Owlettes!!! 

You ladies in Cold Country may not understand this, but right now we are all thrilled out here in Cali because it's RAINING!!!

Our winter has been insanely mild. This past week it was in the high 70's. I know that sounds good to all who are stuck in the frozen tundra, but the truth is that we are in the middle of a severe drought. The high Sierra should be snow-filled, but it's not. That spells trouble for everyone - especially our farmers - this summer.

I got up and made gluten-free sweet potato/cinnamon muffins for breakfast. Yummy! Started the fire in the fireplace. Last time I did that I had to open a window it got so hot. Still drizzling; DH went back to bed to rest. The past few weeks have been hard on him. We never know when we'll get a phone call - regarding either Mom or Dad.

My mother passed in 2009, after a very hard ten-year struggle with end-stage Parkinson's. It was a privilege and an honor to escort her out of this life, and I felt blessed to be able to be there for her. I feel the same about my MIL, and when the time comes, my FIL.

And - as with everything difficult we go through - it helps so much to share it with friends who understand and care. Thank you all.

Hugs all around!!!

luvmygoats

Yes, Sassy. Everybody pictures shoulder pain by grabbing the tops of their shoulders. Mine is in my collarbone and OMG down outside of axilla and down outside of midaxillary line. Good pics BTW. I got to study shoulder anatomy pics while heat packing b4 PT and icing after.

Worked years ago (26 or so) for endocrinologist. I don't remember so much thyroidectomies but did assist with several biopsies.

Blessings - we will be thrilled with rain too. You are a special DIL. You deserve your moniker.
   

Blessings2011

tangandchris - don't feel bad... after my Exchange surgery, just when I was taking a deep breath and relaxing, thinking that I was done, I felt a large, hard lump deep inside the right (non-cancer) side. I was terrified, and absolutely furious that the surgeon hadn't caught it!!!

Luckily, I was scheduled to see my MO the next day. She carefully probed it, and told me it was probably the filling port on my implant. 

DUHHHHH.... I have saline implants. They were inserted uninflated, and filled to capacity once they were in place. Of COURSE they had a port; I just never thought about it. My PS verified it. But hey, at least I was being vigilant, right?

Hope you feel better soon.

camillegal

Blessings u are a sweetheart.

Sas does this mean u might be at the top of a flight of stairs with a huge knife. eeow. eeow, eeow???

I don't want to give anyone false hope or pre thinking on anything for treatment, but tired is pretty common for a period of time so don't feel different or WTF is this--it's just part of treatment crap. That didn't sound very encouraging did that?

luvmygoats

Well Blessings our rain coming with a double edged sword - freezing rain and sleet on Sunday. Yuck. Can't we have some nice rain. Just issued special weather statement. Wind has eased just a bit. Going out to let does out to eat dead leaves in Mr. Bucky's pen.

Anonymous

NJ (I was born in NJ), I definitely don't know the medical advice, can only talk of my experiences, had lots of upper back/neck issues after surgeries. Besides all the muscles being cut and resulting nerve damage causes pain in areas that are a little remote from the surgery sites. Also, turns out I carry my stress in those areas, this was found and relieved by PT. Because of the pain, inward holding my shoulders close up to my ears (well, that's a bit of an exaggeration but you get the idea). The best and easiest relief was (and still is) heating pads  set on low for upper back/shoulder/neck areas. You can check with your med team, mine just wanted it on low. 

Blessings, you have been in my thoughts and prayers these past couple of days, am so sorry all you are going thru now. I wish I had the appropriate words to express how difficult this part of life is and how much those around must appreciate that you are there and part of everyone's lives. Your name suits you. 

On a different note, photo of those drains really got to me. I refused to look when they removed them (both times), now I know why. I would have either gotten sick or passed out! No wonder they hurt so much!

Sassy (anyone ever call you Sassparilla?) What is going on with you? Miss a day or two, and fall way behind. How did this ever come to light anyway?

Anonymous

blessings, looks like rain is coming down our way, that would be wonderful! We desperately need it too.

Chevyboy

It's like we can all talk here!  And no-one judges....  We can talk about things that I wouldn't say to DH....  or my Daughter's.... 

Like how worried we are about some things....  but when we come here, we all try and make each other feel better.... 

Yes, you are a Sweetheart Blessings....

Oh 2nd!  We called each other most EVERYthing we could think of!  Yes, Sassparilla, and numerous other oddities.... that we didn't even know what they were!   From Sassy-pants to  some that don't even make sense...!

Chevyboy

camillegal

--Whooo remembers the song--Owl be seeing you?

camillegal

camillegal

Oh no I've lost my ability to print---it shows up originally then when I hit submit whammo it's gone, when I hit preview whammo it's gone Oh mese oh mice I' m a fraudulent failure for fun photos==phooey.

Ahh my job is calling me--ring, ring, WTF do u want, interrupting me---no I didn't say that

TTYL

Chevyboy

Little Cammi.... don't fret none.... just let us do it for you...  You will get it back again...  Sometimes that happens to all of us.... Well, maybe it doesn't, but we don't care...

So is this you? 

Actually I did this in 1955-1958!  

Teka

Finally, figured out what "TTYL" means------------"Talk To You Later".

tangandchris

BS confirmed that is just the drain I was feeling, but she also assured me that I wasn't a weirdo for need reassurance because of all I've been thru. She said I may be able to start chemo late next week, but it is just all going to depend on how the infection is looking and how the other doctor's feel/think its going. This is hard having 4-5 different doctors at the same time!

So, dh just took the 4 year old out to church for the evening. I have the house to myself for a couple of hours!!! weeeeeee!!

Teka

Anonymous

T&C, of course you're not a weirdo, BC only makes us think that. So happy it was an easy explanation. Enjoy your time alone 

Smaarty

yippee !!! I'm going in Monday for my exchange. He had a cancellation.  So excited to get these expanders out.

luvmygoats

Rah Rah Smaarty. Monday will be here soon.

Tangerine - sounds like your BS is just what you described her as. Not a stupid question, you've never had it b4 or at least it didn't feel like that. Glad she was able to reassure you. Hope you enjoyed your quiet time. I think the wind has finally died down. We may get sleet/freezing rain on Sunday. Oh joy. Just need some rain please. I'll take it in the freezing variety in small amounts.

tangandchris

Well, I can't sleep tonight. I'm tired, but my brain just loves to go and go and go! I'm waiting on my xanax to kick in, so hopefully soon.

Luvmygoats-I think you are further north than me, you probably have a better chance at the sleet/freezing rain stuff. The lakes around here are crazy dry though.

Anonymous

Smaarty, happy dance for you!

Tang, hoping the Xanax kicks in quickly and does its job.

The last couple nights, I just pass out watching TV, even before I get to take my melatonin and getting a decent night's sleep. Don't know why it's different, don't want to jinx anything.

Smaarty

it was a good thing I made my bran muffins this morning for the freezer. Also got 1 bridesmaid dress basically all done. Was going to start another next week, but not happening now.  I'm heading off tomorrow for a short sewing retreat, so got to get a few things done now before Monday. I'm so excited, I might be on here tonight! 

The place were going to I think doesn't have wifi, so you probably won't hear from me. Everybody be careful out there in all this crazy weather. I have a new SIL that has to go to Minnesota next week in -20 degree weather. I don't think he has the kind of clothes for that weather.  Brrrrr

camillegal

Some good news here---See Tang sometimes things are scary but always talk to u'r Doc and things don't seem to bad. so I'm glad. Tang try tot to think to much, it helps a lot.

Smaarty Monday is the exchange"" That's good right so it will be done. Isn't this exciting. U've already completed a dress u'r fast Smaarty, u'll have this done in no time I'm sure.

Oh Chevy I wish it was that easy answering a phone I do remember tho on a smaller scale, and well yea I used to plug in the wrong people or disconnect people, but I could hear and understand them so it was all me that did it.  Oh it's still me, but I don't even know what people are saying to me anymore. It's kind of funny, cuz I am so capable of doing this job (normally) but now if my brain freezes for 3 seconds I've lost all train of thought and I can't admit I'm all off in what is going on, only cuz my life work was so much more complicated and I had no problems and I worked for 4 months with chemo weekly and well I'd get sick and take off, but I could handle my job. then when I restarted my chemo a couple of months later with different stuff I noticed the change and I couldn't work anymore or think and now I see I still can't-when I didn't do anything I didn't notice it as much plus it could be funny, now I feel responsible to someone  Responsibily + me is a double edged sword.

Chevyboy

CAMMIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiii!  Are you still there?  Wave your hand out the window so I can see you!

Chevyboy

Morning goils!  Teka, I STILL don't know what some of those abbreviations are!   Those are there for us to ponder.... maybe?

Cammi, did you see what Littlegoats said?  She called her TANGERINE!!!!!!!!!!  Ha, ha!  Good one!  

Wasn't there some code word about Charlie Tango or something like that?  Somewhere?

Okay, see?  I was almost nearly right!   She looks like a tramp to me.

Tangerine, you can't be a weirdo!  That's what Cammi and I are...!   I have to tell you, if it would have been me, wondering  what that was in there, I would have called the Police!   Glad they figured it out...! 

And you had some "me" time!  Good job!  I get about 2 hours every day...  and I love it.. even if I don't do a thing....  which is hardly never ever.

Morning Teka and Smaarty.... You are getting a..... let's call it a "revision"...  So expanders must be where they have like a balloon???in there, and they fill it??? to a certain degree??? to probably stretch your skin????  And then they can "exchange" all this after the skin has made room for more permanent ones?   I'm happy FOR you...even! 

Going to go have fun sewing, right?   And it snowed here last night, probably about 6 inches...  But we are staying in!

Isn't that awful about the icy roads in Atlanta?  Man, that Governor is taking a regular "beat-down!"  Aren't those guys in charge supposed to have their heads out of their BUM, and LISTEN to the forecasters, and take preparations accordingly?   It's called something like Monosodium Glutamate...  or maybe I'm ... wait, I'll look it up.

http://www.coloradodot.info/travel/winter-driving/faqs.html

Well, maybe in his lame defense, he has never seen snow and ice before. 

2ndTime!  Wait!   Could we just call you 2222222?  Glad you are able to sleep better!  It's like when something GOOD happens, I'm afraid to talk about it, thinking that it will go away..... 

Cammi, you don't need to know anything more than what you do...

WHAT?  Do you want to sound smarter than the rest of us?   We know everything you say, almost, and wouldn't care if we didn't. 

You've lost your train? 

Did you gals hear that?  Cammi lost her train.... No WONDER!   No, it's because you go back and forth through doors, and then you lose your "train" of thought..... THERE!  Whew!  I got you out of THAT one! 

You are responsible only to you and us!   Well even Joey and Katie-Kat.  That's all you need.    And we can help you with that....  

It's like I'm talking to myself here!   You guys still asleep? 

sas-schatzi

lmg-and Nj--well yes on holding the shoulder ,but each is holding it a bit different. The schematic is show there are oodles of places in the shoulder that can be cause of pain. Maybe using the one finger approach when showing it to the doc. Point with one finger to that pain area

Problem to the PCP this is going to mean something different than to a orthopedic doc------other specialities involved with us--MO, RO, CARDIO's---none are going to have a clue. 

Oh well thought a pic might help   maybe not