INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

Enerva

Ok ok here i an trying to catch up again lol

Wren44

What a regal looking owl!

Holeinone

Enerva, another beautiful photo, tangandchris needed one of you gals with the TE about 1/2 hour ago. 

Blessings2011

tangandchris - trying to remember... you had TEs, you got infections, you had the TEs removed...

Did you by any chance have an Alloderm sling inserted? 

I'm also wondering about the amount of pocket work that you might have required to close up your pockets. (You're not going for another set of implants, right?)

Could it just be that you needed layer upon layer of tissues sutured in order to be closed up? With all the swelling, a suture line could possibly feel quite hard. And if layers of muscle and tissue are bunched up from swelling, it might feel hard and pointy, especially if it is over a rib.

I'm certainly no doctor, so will defer to yours! My only advice is the old standard: any fever or redness - seek attention ASAP!!!

Please let us know how you are.

Blessings2011

Ay, Caramba - whatta day. 

Went to the nursing home to see 93 y/o MIL. Found 92 y/o FIL writhing in pain (in his eye) and unable to move. Called 911, paramedics took Dad to ER and DH followed them, I stayed with Mom. She is now on Comfort Care - no more feedings or meds except Morphine, and if needed - Atropine, both sublingual, as she is unresponsive and can no longer swallow.

I sat with her all afternoon; talked to her, prayed over her, read her Scripture. At one point she had muscle tremors and I took her pulse... very slow and uneven. I thought how ironic it would be if she passed in the arms of her daughter-in-law, when Dad has been by her side every day, DH almost as much, as well as three other daughters, and numerous grandkids. When I finally left, I was happy that the last words she would have heard were the 23rd Psalm, and me kissing her and saying "Good night, Mom. We love you and will see you soon."

For anyone else, that might not have been appropriate, but for her it was comforting. We depend on our faith in this family.

FIL is o.k., it was a corneal abrasion from a long-time condition. DH is spending the night with him... he doesn't do well on Morphine, which he got in the ER. Both of them know that Mom's time is near.

Came home, notified the family, checked FB and here... feel a cold coming on. Isn't that always the case!!!! 

May all you Owlettes have sweet dreams!!!!

Alyson

Just flying through.

DB is much better - it wasn't endocarditis but a heart attack . Now he just has to be good and do as he is told. Which I doubt.

Chevyboy

Morning gals!  Geez Blessings.... I'm so sorry for everything that is going on.... I think that is what they finally did with my Mom, after her surgery, after her stroke, and after everything was shutting down...

Just morphine... And I went running down the hall, begging for them to give her more, because she was just yelling out!  Didn't know us, but seemed to be in so much pain.

They said it would just slow her down even more, but I was begging for them to help her.... When we got back from dinner to see her, she was much better...  Seems they have to follow a certain protocol... But we lost her that night... 

Tang!  Let us know what is going on!  They will probably know right away...Sounds like Blessings has some ideas there?  You could write down all the things you want answered.... see if that helps.

Hi little Sassy...  Kind of ironic, that DH and I went to the Cremation place the week before, for us!  Paid for all that... So that is done.  I will pick up Lacee's ashes next week, and keep them with us....  Maybe bury them in my garden, or just keep, so the girls can scatter all of our ashes together....  I just want to be together.

Hi Soteria!  Wondering where you were! 

2ndTime.... Thank you... Jackie sent me something similar...  you all know what it's  like ....  just hard to think about...  I KNOW she is better off now, but  somehow that ...... oh never mind.....

Your cat-dog?  That sounds so cute!  Lacee thought she was a kitten too!  She loved to be around cats, and most of them must have known that!  They let her touch noses, and rub against them...  no-one told her she was supposed to chase them.... like squirrels!  Ha,ha!  But then she even loved birds.... baby birds.... would try to nudge them, when they were learning to fly..

Morning Cammirascal, and Cindy! 

Teka, is that your fuuuurrrry baby?  So pretty!   And you gals were talking about giving them baths?  I just had one of those plastic  "baby pools" and would put it on the picnic table, fill with water, and wait for it to warm up.... Bending over in the tub was just a little hard!

You know, I'm going to use her shampoo myself!  I mean what could it hurt!  I kept trying expensive ones for her, because of her sensitive skin, even "Oatmeal" ones...   So I have about 4 big bottles to use...  They even smell good too! 

Spookie...  hey girl!   And Golfgirl....  Geez, we gotta help Tang! 

Morning Enerva...  and Wren! 

Hi Aly....  Men just want to get better FAST, and then just go on doin' what they want to do, never mind everything else...    DH has the sniffles right now...  so  this might be heading for a crisis soon.... I mean you know how THAT goes...  I will of course be the caring little wife, and bring him nose spray and Claritin, and explain he SURELY isn't on his last leg.... Of course seeing a Doctor would be entirely out of the question...  only if life is swinging in the balance.

Talk to you gals later! xoxoxoxo

Chevyboy

Teka

Good Morning!!

Yes, Teka thought Blessings2011 had Rats!!!!!!!

3 days left in frigid January!

camillegal

IYIIIIIII

So much going on.

Tang I think u'r with a Dr. now and I'm happy u can ask, cuz I don't know anything. I have heard more stories about recon that I never thought happened. U'd think by now everything would be done pretty easily, but nooo.

Blessing what a time for u'r MIL and what u said or read to her was beautiful. At the very end they were giving my mom morphine only (she was at home) and I had the eyedropper kind of thing. well she gave me one of her looks (she couldn't really talk) and would not open her mouth, the next night she died and I was holding her hand and just talking to her and thankd her for a wonderful life, her hand tightened nd that was it. Then later I thought should I have said that, cuz it just came out--well it's what I said, then I called everybody and everyone was there. My dad was sleeping and we woke him up later. But he knew. But I always thought what I said was being so final, I don't know just a hard time. It's never easy.

Enerva

Chevy and Blessing same happen to my poor mom this past July. I used to think she could just one day be asleep and not wake up i never expected her final hours to be so painful and me by her side unable to help her. I will have your mom in my thoughts.  

I am speechless and very sad. 

Smaarty

this is us.

Sorry for all the sad news with parents and pets.

chabba

I just read about Lacey Chevey.  I'm so sorry to hear of her passing.  Our fur babies leave such a big hole in our hearts.

Our house in Olympia had a gully running down the west side of the property. We had bought the house from DH's parents.

Right outside our dinning room window a huge old maple tree grew out of the edge of it and over our yard.  Over the years we burried three dogs under that tree.  When my FIL died we had him cremated but kept his ashes in the cardboard box they sent him to us in until the family could decide what to do with him.  We took back his dog Teddy who was the 17 year old daughter of our first dog. 

There were 3 places that Pop truely loved, one of them being that old house.  When Teddy died 18 months later we decided to scatter his ashes in two of those places, on Mt Rainer and in the Southern California desert. We put Teddy's body and the last third of his ashes in her bed and burried them under the maple tree as well.

When we sold the house we did make full disclosure to the buyers.

Wren44

My MIL was dying of cancer and we were all with her in the hospital. She was in a lot of pain. We talked to the doctor, who said more pain medicine would be hard on her heart. We told him we understood that and wanted more pain relief. I hope someone has that same discussion with my doctor if I'm dying and in extreme pain.

Alyson

Big hugs and prayers for everyone. Special hugs for NM

I nearly got up in the middle of the night to see if anyone was around. Went to bed at 10pm woke at 1am went to sleep at 5.30, but I did hear lots of good programmes and music. 

Think it depends on the doc as to how much morphine is given both my parents slipped away. I know with Dad the had just upped the morphin - he died of cancer - melomona which had spread.

Hope you all have a restful evening.

Teka

Holeinone

Blessings,  Thinking of you and your family. Cami, said it, It is never easy. Your in-laws have lived a long life. That is a good thing. 

Tangandchris, I hope you check in and report the problem..

Chevyboy, sending hugs

Alyson, I am bored, Open's over, waiting for Olympics

2ndtime/Maddy, what's up? Are you OK?

Hump day Owlettes....

Teka 

tangandchris

I was told by infectious disease doctor that it felt like the drain tube to her, I called the PS nurse and she said she was sure that was all it is. I've also got a call in to my BS nurse to get advice from her. I no longer trust my PS' office and have zero confidence in them at this point. I'm grouchy today, forgive me if I come across sour-ish.

Holeinone

Tangandchris, 

Rant, whine, and cuss ! I would, that is  why we are here, for the good, bad & ugly. I am hoping whoever did your last surgery would get you right in, like today. Keep, calling until you get answers. I am always too passive, then I get so mad at myself...

camillegal

Tang, Hole is so right, be anyway u want here, plus keep looking for u'r answers til u feel better.

tangandchris

I'm going to see my BS tomorrow so she can check it out. Like I said I don't trust my PS any longer and the BS office knows this.

Chevyboy

Cammi, you are such a cute little chit!  You just speak from your heart, don't you! 

Sorry Enerva....  Yes, it is so hard.  Same with my Dad!  I went to see him that last night... I wanted to go alone, because my Brother was just having a hard time.... He went to drink with Dad's old Buddy.

I went  and just stood by the top of that bed, and talked to him....  just like you!  I think it helps us say good-bye and let go....

Love the baby owls Smaarty!   and thank you Chabba....  I try and not think about her...but she's just everywhere!     DH seems to be just going on.... trying to not think about it....   Chabba....  You can bury them or their ashes wherever you want.... I said so. 

When my Daughter's dog suddenly went into a seizure, and died in her arms, she and the 2 boys took her out back, and buried her in their garden...   I would have done that too.... But I couldn't let Lacee get any worse....  I'll get her ashes, and just keep them here...  with us...

Wren!  Same with me!  I did the same thing!   They just go into a peaceful sleep, and hopefully they just stay that way.  Mom's kidneys had shut down too... 

Hi Aly and Teka.... and Golfgirl! 

Okay Tang....so that's good, right?  You can be grouchy, even raise a little hell.... we don't care.... it ain't as if we never do here!    Damn people ANYway! 

Guess we told THEM!  xoxoxo

Enerva

Tang i have been where you are, so go ahead vent all you want. We are here to listen. 

Chevy i also lost my two dogs, Miniature pinchers red. They were my babies first the girl then the boy. After them i could never get another dog. I kept the ashes and i still have some of their toys. Pets are just family and yes it hurst so much. Only time can help us.

Keep been strong.

sending you hugs

sas-schatzi

Cami, what you said to your Mom was wonderful. 

Blessing sorry that you have to do through this

Spookie LOL yes, I know those drugs are in the same goup, but the article I was talking about ranked the drugs by effectiveness and problems like bleeding and heart attack.

Chevy, I have the same plan for Schatzi when it's her time. This girls staying with me. With DH I have his ashes with me b/c I have no clue where I will end up. But for sure it won't be in the ground. Have an aversion to it for some reason.

Teka so tired of this cold wet dreary weather. Can't wait for April, it's the prettiest month in Florida. Very predictable.

Everyone---MRI of liver done this am WED. Had the report in hand at 1 pm. My dr. Anderson, knew how worried I was. It's good. The thryoid comes out on Feb 28th. will worry until path report is in. Indicators are it could be cancerous. So, where's the Ativan.      Working on stuff for DBF unemploment and things-----working me to distraction---only one nap since he lost his job.

camillegal

All right Sas u have to learn how to pace u'rself--u can work for days then u crash, that's not healthy, I know u know it. But u have to stop and literally smell the roses and meditate or something were u do nothing when u'r awake. U don't always have to be busy, spread things out. Please try so u take care of u'rself. That one thing I'm an expert at is doing nothing, my own mother used to say a snail could beat me in a race, (one of the things she would say about my slowness) Many things were said, like I could never be the look-out cuz by the time I'd get to anyone everyone would be there, or if I was going to the garage did I want to take supplies with me----so doing nothing comes easy to me.

Anonymous

oh, Cami, that breaks my heart! We all work at different speeds and not always the same speed at everything we do. That's mean. (I taught kids in special ed who might be considered "slow" in academic areas, but let me tell you, they made up for it in other areas. You are so quick witted, I'm slower in that area.

But you're right, we need to learn how to slow down and how to eliminate stress in our lives. Especially us. 

Now, I need to get caught up.

Blessings, I am so sorry about your MIL, she is lucky to have your love and compassion, especially at this time. Wish I could be in your pocket to offer you strength, love and hugs. You're not in an easy place right now, but what you are doing is SO important for your MIL, FIL, DH and you too! You can never look back and regret that you weren't there. 

Hi1, thanks for thinking of me! Miss a day or so and am missed, feeling wanted. Need to fill in yesterday and today but not in the frame of mind with what's been discussed here. 

Holeinone

Sas, liver MRI, yanking out your thyroid ? What's going on with you? Glad to hear your liver came out clean.....your making me dizzy with all this....

Smaarty

hey guys, it's raining!!  Yeah !  Should be gone tomorrow night but maybe now the storm door is open. To bad that can't ship all that snow you guys have out here.

tangandchris

I love how ya'll hold each other up, I just hope I can keep up and get to know some of ya'll too

In general today, I'm feeling worn out and discouraged somewhat. I had to get an EKG today because I'm being switched to Levaquin to for this bacterial infection I'm dealing with. Well, Levaquin doesn't always play nicely with Celexa which is another med I'm on, so that is why I had to do the EKG. It's like something new every week that comes up, it is exhausting!! I haven't even started chemo yet and I'm worn out as hell...how am I going to get thru the rest of this?? These are just some of the thoughts that I'm having, you know?

On a side note, I can't stop eating either. Can food just not taste good please???

Spookiesmom

Hi Tang. I feel for you. Levaquin doesn't play nice with me at all. It's on my allergy list. 

Wait for chemo, it was pretty good at stopping me from eating. Lost 34#.