MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish

Loral

marlegal

Native, I'm right there with you hon

marlegal

Loral and Eli, love your last posts too

staynsane

Loral and Eli- I too had my babies after age 30, have kept a slim profile, eaten healthfully for the most part and used birth control for many years. The fact that we can all rattle off our lifestyle choices that would support cancer-inducing or cancer-free living tells me we have all thought about where we may have gone wrong. I think it's natural to do that in the beginning, but after weeks or months of wracking my brain I just say "FUCK IT!" We all go, one way or another. We just hope not too soon.

I just caught up with past posts, and would like to congratulate Diana Rose for being open to, and up for, a relationship that sounds like it will "feed you" rather than one "sucking" from you! It's sometimes hard, sad, painful to move on, but you deserve to enjoy life. And with a new bakery and its obligations, your free time much be very precious! Sounds like you are spending it wisely!

Eli- YAY! The 17th is coming up fast. Congrats!

elimar86861

Yes, staynsane, I think we all looked over the list of risk factors, and matched ourselves up to it. The thing is, some people have but ONE risk factor and get B/C, while others have three or four (maybe all!) of the factors and don't get B/C. I'm kind of commenting on women my age, so they may yet get B/C in their lifetimes but in a side by side comparison with me, they seemed to have avoided it thus far, risk factors or not.

It seems that each week we read some new B/C "breakthrough" but I think we are still a long way from understanding why it strikes some of us, while others get a pass.

elimar86861

File this in the I DON'T NEED IT Dept.:

We have a leaky shower. My husband is moderately handy, but when the H/C valve thingy inside the pipe was rusted onto the pipe so that he could not get it out, we had a plumber here over the weekend. After FIVE hours, it was not even fixed and my husband basically paid the guy once just to discover that it was a bigger problem. So, now two plumbers are here wrecking the drywall in two closets to get at this pipe (that needs replacing) and because it is a Monday, my husband is at work and it got dumped on me. When I was alerted to the problem, my first words were, "I don't need anything else heaped onto my plate right now." Look how that turned out. Arrgh!

elimar86861

HAHAHA! I just realized that I'm stressing about PLUMBING, when my bigger problem this past year has been MY OWN PLUMBING!!!! Need a laughing smiley icon right about now.

Momine

Eli, I confess, it occurred to me as I read about your shower troubles. oh, AND you needed two plumbers to fix the problem

elimar86861

Too bad they don't have a shower ROBOT. Worked for me.

luvmygoats

I hate plumbing problems. My DH thinks he can fix them and he too is pretty handy. Now electrical he usually gets the pros. Hope DH puts drywall back in order for you post haste or at least has a handy piece of plywood and puts contents back in.

I had 2 plumbers come to replace 2 toilets and a water heater. I think one was an apprentice though; he got the toilets. Flat rate for job.

elimar86861

The "two hour" job took four hours...don't even ask about cost because it seemed enormously high to me, but people always complain about plumbers charging a lot, so it is probably just the going rate. The good news is that they replaced the drywall already (which is easy and I guess I paid plumber's rates for that also) but it is DONE. That is the important part. I want to RELAX for the next couple days, not launch into extra activities. The other good news is, since they took so long, my DH came home for his lunch hour and he finished up with them.

I know you are not all like me, but I just don't even want strangers in the house right now. Don't want to hear pounding, etc. Don't want to take on new problems (until I get this old one taken care of.) So when I say I am just amazed but what some of you all do while in cancer treatment, I am not kidding.

luvmygoats

Elimar - I wouldn't want what you went thru with your plumbing on my best day much less 3 days b4 surgery. Nominate you for Saint Elimar. Put your feet up, get a cup of tea and zone out. Yay for DH coming home to supervise. I made sure DH was home for the toilet jobs and water heater dysfunction came on his day off. I did a kitchen remodel 10 years ago and he was home for almost none of it. Also did a garage addition and turning old garage into den again while he was an hour away; that was 15 years ago. Easier done today with DSL/pictures/cameras. Not so much then and we had slow as molasses net connection.

You know the more I think about your 4 hours for ripping out 2 walls, fixing plumbing and repairing walls that sounds about right for time. I think plumbing bills are the worst 'cause usually there is no way around getting it fixed. And DH is terrible at est. cost for them. Car repairs he is usually spot on.

Eph3_12

Well here's to plumbers, both human kind & porcelain bowl/shower pipe kind. They are needed unless we want an outhouse & camping shower, or want to have our insides in disrepair. Just wish both kinds weren't so damn expensive!

barsco1963

Eli - glad everything is back together again. Now you can relax, have some "me" time and concentrate on getting yourself back together.

elimar86861

Thanks for reminding me, Eph...the OTHER good news is I DIDN'T have to see any actual butt crack!

Luv, On Sat. the guy estimated today's work at two hours, and today it was two guys working instead of just one, so I just did not think it would be that long. On Sat., it took five hours (and two broken tools) and nothing even got fixed. This was a total of NINE HOURS of plumbing. For one pipe/faucet fixture. I noticed I got an ugly faucet/shower head set in there now. If my mind had been on this mess, there is no way I would have let a plumber just pick any old ugly thing to put in my shower but, as I said, I could not mentally engage in this project. Oh well. Sorry for going on about this, it's just been stressful in a bad timing kind of way.

luvmygoats

A broken dish would be enough to set me off. ((((BIG HUGS))))

elimar86861

It's not too late in the day for all the feasting to be over, so it is not too late to say...

to all the Canadian Middies out there. I know we have a lot of Ontarians on the thread. (Is that even the right name, Ontarians?) Have a peaceful & delicious holiday.

I think most of this country has phased out Columbus Day (also today) for the most part, but if it got you the day off work who cares if he showed up hundreds of years after the Vikings.

We really do need a good Viking holiday, dont we?

Dianarose

The woman at Lowes cut my shades wrong. I sat down and had a major melt down. Good thing it wasn't the plumbing.

I think you ladies are on to something.I got my first mail order today. I will over night it to NY and then it's going to Australia. Two dozen Moose cookies (3 kinds of chocolate, sugar, butter, and very little flour) and 1 dozen lemon bars.

I am so excited. I made the appointment to get my nipple tattoo's. The guy is booked so I can't get them until 11/22. My brother wants to pay for them for an early Christmas gift. He said how often does a brother get to buy nipples for his sister. He is a great brother.

Welcome to all of the new gals. Sorry you are here, but this is the best place to be for love, support, laughs, and cowboy eye candy.

Loral

Loral

Eli...My brother's a plumber..............

jessica749

Why is there a category for 40 - 60?? Isn't the traditional medical split at age 50...those who are diagnosed before 50/generally pre menopausal, and those diagnosed after 50 generally post menopausal. Broadly speaking. Isn't it because the prognosis and cancer specifics ARE different? Just curious on the etymology, if you will, of the why 40 -60 lumped together.

marlegal

Eli, glad that got taken care of and hope nothing hits the radar for a long long time.

Diana, you need to let us know when you'll take more mail orders!

Dianarose

Jessica- I am 52 and stage IV so I guess I was middle-age at 25. That explains why I got some white hairs in my 20's. For those of us who have had chemo menopause starts about 3 weeks into it. I hope like hell that I will reach the 60(ish).Either way this thread and these ladies have been here for me and I don't think anyone on this thread cares about age. We are all here for the same reason. We will be here for you as well.

Momine

Jessica, the age range for the board is not based on cancer stats. The idea is that people in the same age range are likely to have things in common, apart from the stupid cancer.

As for the menopause stuff, I was pre-menopausal when DXed at age 47. My last period ever started the same day I got my second chemo (of 8). Once I was done with chemo, I had my ovaries and most of my uterus surgically removed and started taking femara. Result? Super-double-plus menopause Without the cancer, I would probably have been close to 60 before my periods stopped.

barsco1963

Thanksgiving weekend here in Canada was awesome. We enjoyed some late season warmth and sunshine, spent time with family/friends and ate lots of turkey/goodies.

Dianarose - nipples for Christmas? I bet Santa has never seen that on a wish list - lol. Sounds like your brother is a great support. Congrats on the first mail order!

elimar86861

jessica749, Like it says up top, when I came to this website, there was a "young" thread and an "older" thread, and some Mids were in the "older" but I did not feel represented there and felt a "middle" was missing. I didn't start this one to be divisive, no more than something like the IDC thread or TN is, anyway. You are right in that the stats kind of divide B/C young and old at age 50, Then again, it is at age 40 when we begin the annual mammogram thing, and when we can start to have major hormonal changes (unrelated to chemo, I mean) so this is as likely an age group as any. I guess the short answer would be that this is a thread for women to relate socially and chronologically, who, by the way, have cancer. You know, women who might have eaten Quisp or Quake cereal but also may have an MP3 player, plus are no strangers to the hot flash.

Loral, Nothing personal to your brother. I'm sure he could have fixed my shower in only 7 and 1/2 hours. (Winky-wink.) In the economic climate of Michigan, a person is darn fortunate to be working in ANY field. Even lawyers.

Dianarose, What a generous offer from your brother. Of course, being able to say you got your sister a set of nip tatts for Xmas IS priceless.

Eph3_12

Dianarose, that is too cool about the bro offering to pay for the nipple tats! It actually sounds like something my brother would offer me if the need was there. My mom posthumously gave me my eyebrow tats last year for my birthday. Tattoos, the gift that gives everyday!

cakes

You ladies are a blast! I was laughing so hard I almost fell on my chair! My kids (26/28) were asking how I was doing and when I mentioned I have a crispy nipple we decided during Breast Cancer Awareness month there should be and appetizer on menus called tatter-tatas or tatter-tits. The money for this appetizer would be donated to breast cancer research. I hope you aren't offended but we got a good laugh out of it.

Loral

Eli...Yes, the union couldn't find brother plumber a plumbing job after the place he worked went out of business about 5 years ago, so he now drives a school bus. Plumbing is a side job... Sign of the times in MI.

Katlebbie

El ~ thinking about you and hoping all is getting better with you. You are in my prayers and I am getting ready to hop in your pocket! (((HUGS)))