I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited June 2011

    Otter:

    I had brussels sprouts for lunch and now I know why.  Your trout sounded delicious especially because DH caught it.

    Sandy

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited June 2011

    We had bad storms last night.  Lightning and thunder.

    Tonight is pasta night.  Penne alla bolognese.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited June 2011

    Pasta night here too!  Fresh basil pesto on angel hair, and salad greens from the garden!

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited June 2011

    Blue:

    For once we missed the storms but had the most incredible sunset - I think I may just move in next door to you so I can eat italian food - it is hands down my favourite as long as it is homemade.  (I'll bring wine........)

    Sandy

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited June 2011

    Sounds great Sandy!  I love cooking it.

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited June 2011

    A lot of wind here last night and today is not as hot as the last few days.

     Sizzler steaks baked potatoes and salad for dinner.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    worldwatcher, it's fruitless to talk about our concerns on this thread.  I didn't know we were in 4 wars until today....Yemen being the latest.  Where are all the "peace-loving, anti-war" people.  Why aren't they marching and holding up horrible signs.  Why are people afraid to take on this administration.  Is it that they don't have anyone else to run as a democrat for president?  I wonder if they did would there be outcry  from the left.

    At this point I have no idea who I'm supporting for president.  Palin is just another name that the LSM is still running into the ground and who thinks she's running for president.  I'm still waiting to hear more from the candidates and Monday night's republican debate should be very interesting.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited June 2011

    You guys are making me hungry again!

    Shirley .. I agree, the debates should be interesting.

    Bren

    PS .. Shirley, I think it's okay for you and WW to talk about anything you want on this thread.  BTW .. Gas prices dropped 30 cents a gallon in my area.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2011

    E how cool to be in Ireland! Miss you. Shirley I am encouraged that Gingrich's campaign staff quit today. Maybe we can get a real conservative to step up. Yes Gingrich is conservative but he's unelectable. High here today was 90. Free range chicken with quinoa and broccoli.

  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited June 2011

    Shirley

    I'm well aware of the tactics used on this thread.  Censorship via brussel sprouts, LOL. 

    I choose to turn my feelings of hatred against the real enemy on this breast cancer forum...breast cancer...not a real live person who happens to ALSO have two titties like the rest of us.  She unfortunately doesn't fit the template for deserving respect solely because she is a woman and of the wrong political bent.  Obama has made as many gaffes as she has, and I wonder why no one is taking him to task for the problems we are facing.  He has squandered the power of the office and the country is in dire straits while he golfs.

    I went through the ERA times, and have busted my butt for decades to try and see that ALL women are treated equally...it grieves me to see the loss of sisterhood here, HERE where it should be paramount...all because a woman who to my knowledge has never harmed anyone, is a wife, and mother of a special-needs child is in the process of the having the press and others put her "in her place" the way minorities and women were put in their places for decades and not allowed to reach for the stars.

    Why are the NYT and Washington post doing this?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/help-analyze-the-palin-emails/2011/06/08/AGZAaHNH_blog.html

    "Over 24,000 e-mail messages to and from former Alaska governor Sarah Palin during her tenure as Alaska's governor will be released Friday. That's a lot of e-mail for us to review so we're looking for some help from Fix readers to analyze, contextualize, and research those e-mails right alongside Post reporters over the days following the release".  What is acceptable about this?

    Hillary was treated the same way by the same forces and unfortunately her decision to not fight back for fear of being seen as "racist" has emboldened them.  I believe she would have made a much better president. They are trying to make damned sure that no other woman will have the guts to try that reach for the stars.  I think that in the future, today's woman will have cause to rue their disdain for Palin.

    Just to be totally clear, the gutless republicans who are watching this and not defending her in any way are unworthy of any respect from me. I believe that Mitt Romney and his aides instigated a great deal of this back in '08, and I implore any woman here..do not vote for him!  I have no idea who I will vote for yet, except it will NOT be Romney OR Obama. 

    So, ladies, you may see me as a deluded tea partier, but I'm here to say, loud and proud, I'm an old-style feminist and have been for a long time.  I spent a good deal of my working life being underpaid, overworked and passed over for promotion because of my sex...my daughters are faring better as I hope all of you are....our goal was "equality".  Are we allowing every sister in our country that? 

  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited June 2011

    Barbara

    Newt MAY be "conservative", but IMO Newt is a twit!  His ego is bigger than his house.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2011

    Gotta say worldwatcher, I am with you on underpaid and overworked. Been that way all my life. Just had a 20k pay cut cause guess: I HAVE to have insurance and they know it. So I am screwed and looking for another job. Stinks but living in a " right to work" state I have no recourse. Still working cause gotta have insurance. Sucks wieners. Pun intended.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2011

    Gotta say worldwatcher, I am with you on underpaid and overworked. Been that way all my life. Just had a 20k pay cut cause guess: I HAVE to have insurance and they know it. So I am screwed and looking for another job. Stinks but living in a " right to work" state I have no recourse. Still working cause gotta have insurance. Sucks wieners. Pun intended.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited June 2011

    98 In Philly today......................oh for my shore home and the pool.............thank heavens for a/c.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2011

    Saw this today. Slinking away before my single payer friends start pelting me with rocks.

    http://www.latimes.com/health/la-na-healthcare-court-20110609,0,1457877.story

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited June 2011

    I think that law was the best they could do in the political climate they had to work around. 

    It is not anything close to single payer.  Because I believe that single payer is the most efficient way to get the most out of our healthcare dollars I am conflicted about this one.  I think it will help some people but without at least a public option it still leaves the private insurance companies as the main players.  They have shown nothing but a willingness to increase rates and decrease services every chance they get and for any excuse they can come up with.  Do you suppose that they will cancel all those recent rate increases they have been blaming on the new healthcare law if the courts strike it down and they don't have to abide by any new regulations afterall?  No ... me neither. 

    Edited to add:  It is not the people who favor single payer who would be hurt by this.  It's the people with pre-existing conditions who can't get private insurance or who are being held hostage by their current company and forced to pay outrageous rates because they know they can't find anything else ... or the people who lose their job sponsored insurance for any reason who will be left up sh*t creek without a paddle.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2011
    Wabbit, I am one of those held hostage by my insurance company AND my company. They cut my pay 20K and knew they could get away with it because I HAVE to have insurance. And you are correct, no way the b@stards will lower the rates. Just like the property insurers here in FL. Rates keep going up and up and up.
  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited June 2011

    You know who loses here don't you - EVERYBODY - if they strike down the healthcare law it'll be back to normal - people who are under insured or not insured will still need medical care and it will happen - just every single taxpayer in the U.S. will pay for it - sadly, the bloated insurance companies will not - I don't get that Americans by and large don't "get it" - I was down there for 25 years and it was the one thing that I just couldn't fathom - no one seemed to understand who the enemy was - it was and is THE INSURANCE COMPANIES!!!!!

    Sandy

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited June 2011

    What I want is something modelled on the Federal Employees Health Benefit Program. You choose your insurance company, out of those enrolled in the program, you pay part, the govt pays part. The insurance companies have an incentive to folllow the rules; if they don't they are out of the program. The govt could even pay it all. Then the insurance companies continue to exist and we pay less out of pocket. It is the plan Congress has. What happened to the cries of "Give us the plan Congress has?" Did the insurance compannies convince the Tea Party leaders that they didn't like that?

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited June 2011

    Good luck on the job hunt Barbara!  What they did to you sucks Frown

    My daughter's old employer did the same to their long time employees ... cut pay and did away with their health benefits both actually.  She and the others have now all found other ... and better ... jobs.  The last one to leave was actually told "We really count on you now and don't know what we would do without you here doing the work of 5 people ... oh and by the way we are paying you way too much so you will have to take a pay cut".   Need I say that she really enjoyed walking out on them ... as did they all truthfully.   

    Sending out (((hugs))) and love and feel better wishes to Elizabeth ... and wishing with all my heart that I could do more than that.  I want magical 'make it all better' powers dammit.

         

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited June 2011

    rosemary ... I still think single payer is the most efficient and least costly.  But I'm in the FEHBP and something like it ... a huge group plan ... is the second best IMO.  That is basically what the healthcare law is creating - a group of diverse plans with minimum standards ... a large pool of enrollees ... and subsidies to help with the costs.   

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited June 2011

    Elizabeth

    I think we alll want those magic make it all better powers WR talked about. We love you girl .

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited June 2011

    Yes, Elizabeth, we all love and miss you.  You WILL be back.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2011

    Adding my MISS YOU to Elizabeth!

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited June 2011

    WR

      I like both the FEHBP and sigle payer. I think sigle payer would get rid of so many problems we now have with insurance companies but I don't think it could pass in Congress any time soon

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited June 2011

    Going home to help kids get ready for 40th anniversary party their Dad decided they should throw for us. When they asked if it could be at our house he said that was okay as long as they did all the work. So why have I been doing yard work every sunny day? So now I go home to see what still needs to be done after my girls cleaned with 4 little ones under foot. Oh and my sons are supposed to come out in the morning to help me becuse my daughters will be at a Mom to Mom Sale until 3 hours before the party starts and they have to go home change and then each drive half an hour to my house.(Need I add that the daughters are much better at throwing parties than the sons?)

    "The kids will do all the work" Ha. Has he met his own children?

    I am grumpy because I am always tired. I think that"s from Femara. The pulmonologist thinks it could be sleep apnea or fibromyalgia because I am also sore all over. I say Femara again.

    And now I have to have more tests and I was really enjoying a break from medical bills.

    Go single payer!

    Please forgive the rant. Fatigue makes me grouchy.I know a lot of you struggle every day with problems bigger than mine.

    I really am amazed we made it forty years. But I can not think of a better way to spend my life.  

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited June 2011

    Rosemary -- sorry you're not feeling good, but I have to laugh at at your question "Has he met his own children?"

    Hope you feel better, hope the kids do all the REST of the work needed, and hope you have a great party tomorrow -- huge congrats on your 40th anniversary!

    xoxo

    Ann

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited June 2011

    Congratulations Rosemary!!!!!

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited June 2011

    Congratulations Rosemary and hubby!!!  You do need to speak to your spouse about that 'party at your house but kids will do all the work' thing.  That would rate a big bwahahaha except it's hard to laugh while you are cleaning the house, etc. etc. to get ready for it.  Grumping at him is good ... whatever it takes so he never never allows such a thing again.  Wink  Hope you enjoy the party!

    The fatigue thing is the pits.  I've had streaks of not sleeping well ... it comes and goes and darn if I can figure out the reason.  Hope they figure something out for you.    

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited June 2011

    Congrats, Rosemary!! It is perfectly OK to be grumpy. I am pretty grumpy today also.

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