I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Oh my goodnes, IronJaw.  My grandmother and grandfather and mother and aunts were all Polish.  They lived in a small town call Fall City, Texas.  A few miles away was a German town called Poth.  My grandmother was the sweetest lady EVER.  I had never heard her speak unkindly about any race. 

Not everyone who wants legal immigration is racist.  I wish you ladies would stop implying that.  There's a small amount of logic that needs to be addressed...legal vs. illegal.  Look up the definition. 

Shirley - no one on this thread has said they do not want legal immigration. To insinuate otherwise is simply not true.

E, are we allowed to write such things?

Love you Enjoyful.

Sandy

Blue, I sent my DH flowers and a Teddy Bear some years back.  He was embarrassed...LOL

I  just threw a glass of cold water on my Ray of Thunderclouds to remind him to get up for his medical appt.  Is that too "girly" of me?  I don't think it will embarrass him cause it's a lot nicer than my usual reminders.  Glad you like my new nickname, Blue.  One has to work hard to deserve being annointed with such nice names from the higher ups.

Ok guys I may sound a bit harsh and since when is "Liberal" a bad word.......I thought you on the left embraced that word........

But you really don't have a clue what is happening....

Here in Texas where I have lived for 44 years and I lived 10 years in New Mexico 1 mile from the Navajo Nation (again you guys have no idea about our Native Americans but I digress)

Here in Dallas we have been an Anchor City..(thank goodness that is changing).....that is if you don't have proper papers if you are stopped for some reason you are not sent back to your homeland.......

Our county hospital (Parkland Hospital) is the number 1 destination for women from Mexico and beyond to be smuggled (by coyotes) into the United States and driven up Interstate 45 to have their babies that become American citizens......

Does anyone here understand and can even comprehend what happens to these women on their trip coming  to Dallas....they are raped repeatedly.......they are exploited.....they are put into the sex trade........many times their brand new babies are taken from them and "held" so they will be compliant.........they are put into the drug trade.......the illegal activities are endless.......

The 14th amendment is not doing these illegal moms any favors but putting them into a life of danger and again makes their lives worthless to the "Sponsors"..........

As far what to do with the illegals here........there are some ideas on the table but let me ask anyone of you "Progressives" (hope that is better) when you have a broken water pipe do you fix it before you stop the flow of water?........I don't know how you gals on the left would do that but I think that most of us on the right would first turn our water off and then call a plumber........

shokk

notself:

I'm not sure I understand.  I looked at the first 30 and couldn't see too many companies that deal with food manufacture/production or clothing which are where most immigrants of the type we are discussing end up working.  How many times have we heard of "Whole Foods" referred to as "Whole Paycheck"?  How many of us talk about how much a cup of coffee costs at Starbucks and don't buy there because of it?  yet both these entities do pay benefits and better wages. . .

I see that Mattel is on the list--Mattel may be a great place to work in the US but their production is all off-shore and they do not have a great reputation in those factories.  Lots and lots of sweatshops with young uneducated underage women. . . ..

We seem to have two discussions going on---the initial one that I posted on which is repeal of the 14th amendment and illegal immigration in general.  I oppose repeal of the 14th amendment for all of the reasons previously argued.  I would agree that our immigration policy needs to be reformed however I think the reason it never gets reformed is because illegal immigration benefits our society for all of the reasons.

A wholly separate topic---which I decline to get into unless I get TRULY incensed---is the inevitable note of racism whenever immigration gets discussed anywhere in this country.  All the cr@p about crime rates as though crime and those people are the same thing.  I used to live in an immigrant neighborhood, one that probably had more illegals than legals.  It was the quietest place I ever lived---everyone in bed by 9pm because they all had to get up in the morning and work.  There are plenty of illegal Western Europeans [and Canadians! ] in this country but somehow when ever we talk about illegal immigration, no one is thinking of the Western Europeans who make up an SS# to get work in a museum, nope, its always the dishwashers. . . . . .

I love giving my men flowers!  He deserves them for taking such good care of you.

Reagan was very pro-immigrant, and yes, he gave amnesty to the illegals that were here.  Bush was also not tough on illegal immigrants.  The Obama administration has been deporting illegals in record numbers, but have targeted those with criminal records.  It is incredibly naive to think that the solution is to round every one of them up and deport them, businesses and therefore our economy can not afford the hit. My ignore button gets a lot of use, so I can't see what some post, but from others' responses I take it there has been some name calling.  You can call me a political poser, but only if we can call you Tea Party trolls. Is turnabout not fair play? I suggest if you do not like our opinions, use the "ignore" button for a change, rather than the "report this post".  Just my opinion.

Nice, Erice 31 - talking about people on this board sitting at their computers all day doing nothing for their "great" country - I lived in your "great" country for 25 years and volunteered in politics, teaching, meals on wheels, etc., etc. I also worked full time for most of it and paid taxes - now I am back in my "great" country and volunteer at the local hospital - all this with bc - I am "only" stage 3 so I can actually do this but what about all our sisters on this board who can only get on their computers and who help each of us out every single day and night (the nights are the worst, aren't they?) who go for treatments all the time and are feeling god awful - I think they are the TRUE VOLUNTEERS and I salute each and every one of them.

Bring on the Brussel Sprouts!

Sorry - just lmao - Tea Party Trolls? That is the best description ever - E

No brussel sprouts here, but having Hoppin John tonight. 

Erica - Please do not presume to know what I do "all" day long. You know nothing about my day just as I know nothing about your day. You know nothing about my volunteer activities or what I do with my time. I only speak for myself, but DO NOT lecture me about things of which you know NOTHING.