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  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited October 2021

    Love the dream and hope it comes true soon.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2021

    I see Urban Meyer's wife Shelley has deleted her Twitter account. Sayonara, sweetheart. I don't have Twitter but she used the platform to spread vaccine lies. Since video surfaced of her 57 year old coach husband in a bar a couple weekends ago with a 24 year old blonde grinding against his crotch after he said he was going to be spending time with his grandkids, Shelley got a lot of backlash on Twitter. So she's giving it up to stand by her man.


  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
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    Another favorite lady!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • magiclight
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  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
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    Hubby and I were at Lowden State Park just outside Oregon, Illinois, last week There is a huge statue of Black Hawk overlooking the Rock River.

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    Here's one with Hubby to show the size. If he'd been right next to it, he'd only reach a bit above the top of the base.

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  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited October 2021

    Alice...I did not know anything about that park, the statue or its history. Thanks for posting the statue and pequing my interest.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    October 11, 2021

    Heather Cox Richardson

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    Both the New York Times and the Washington Post today ran op-eds from Republicans or former Republicans urging members of their party who still value democracy to vote Democratic until the authoritarian faction that has taken over their party is bled out of it.

    In the New York Times, Miles Taylor and Christine Todd Whitman wrote, "We are Republicans. There's only one way to save our party from pro-Trump extremists." Taylor served in the Department of Homeland Security and was the author of the 2018 New York Times piece by "Anonymous" criticizing former president Trump. Whitman was governor of New Jersey from 1994 to 2001, after which she headed the Environmental Protection Agency under President George W. Bush.

    Taylor and Whitman note that "rational Republicans" had hoped after Trump's defeat that they might take back the party, but it is clear now, they write, that they are losing the party's "civil war." But while they originally hoped to form a new party, they now agree that the only way to stop Trumpism "is for us to form an alliance with Democrats to defend American institutions, defeat far-right candidates, and elect honorable representatives next year—including a strong contingent of moderate Democrats." To defend democracy, they write, "concerned conservatives must join forces with Democrats on the most essential near-term imperative: blocking Republican leaders from regaining control of the U.S. House of Representatives" and the Senate.

    They call for Republicans to put country over party and back moderate Democrats, while also asking Democrats to concede that "there are certain races where progressives simply cannot win and acknowledg[e] that it makes more sense to throw their lot in with a center-right candidate who can take out a more radical conservative."

    At the Washington Post, Max Boot takes an even stronger stand: "I'm no Democrat—but I'm voting exclusively for Democrats to save our democracy." Boot is a Russian-American specialist in foreign affairs who identifies as a conservative but no longer supports the Republican Party. He writes: "I'm a single-issue voter. My issue is the fate of democracy in the United States. Simply put, I have no faith that we will remain a democracy if Republicans win power. Thus, although I'm not a Democrat, I will continue to vote exclusively for Democrats—as I have done in every election since 2016—until the GOP ceases to pose an existential threat to our freedom."

    Boot singles out the dueling reports from the Senate Judiciary Committee about the nine ways in which Trump tried to pressure then–acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen to back his claims of election fraud. The Democrats on the committee established these efforts with an evidence-based report, only to have the Republicans on the committee, led by Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA), respond that the president was simply trying to promote confidence in the election results and that since he did not ultimately replace Rosen with another lawyer who promised to use the Justice Department to challenge the election—after the other leaders of the Justice Department threatened to resign in a mass protest—he did not actually abuse his office.

    Boot writes, "It is mind-boggling that a defeated president won't accept the election outcome…. What is even more alarming is that more than 60 percent of Republicans agree with his preposterous assertion that the election was stolen and want him to remain as the party's leader."

    Taylor, Whitman, and Boot are hardly the first to be calling out the anti-democratic consolidation of the Republican Party. Yesterday, Representative Adam Schiff (D-CA), who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, managed Trump's first impeachment trial, and sits on the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol, gave an interview to CBS's Face the Nation in which he called the Republican Party "an autocratic cult around Donald Trump" that is "not interested in governing" or "maintaining the solvency of the country."

    But what makes today's op-eds stand out is that they are from former Republicans, that they are calling not for a separate party but for Republicans to shift their votes to the Democrats, and that their identification of the Republicans as an existential threat to our democracy is being published in major newspapers.

    Mainstream television and newspapers have been slow to identify the radicalization of the Republican Party as a threat to democracy. The Eastman memo, uncovered by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa at the end of September in their new book Peril, flew largely under the radar screen, explained away as more of Trump being Trump even as it laid out, in writing, the steps to overturn the 2020 election and even as we knew that the former president tried to put that plan into place. A study by Media Matters showed that ABC, NBC, and CBS all chose not even to mention the memo; they reach more than 20 million Americans.

    On Saturday, a monologue by comedian Bill Maher about the Eastman memo titled "Slow Moving Coup" laid out in 8 minutes how Trump tried to steal the 2020 election and how, when officials resisted him, he set out to solidify his power for 2024. Maher woke people up to the ongoing crisis in our democracy.

    Maher's monologue, along with the draft Senate Judiciary Committee report, which sets out in detail the efforts the former president made to bend the Department of Justice to his will, seems to have driven home to members of the press the fact that they cannot present today's news as business as usual, especially after their presentation of the debt ceiling crisis as a political horse race when one side was trying to save the country and the other to destroy it. In the Philadelphia Inquirer yesterday, journalist Will Bunch wrote: "The future of American democracy depends, frankly, on whether journalists stop burying their head in 'the work' of balanced-but-misleading reporting and admit that, yes, actually, we are at war."

    Bunch pointed out that on Friday, the Nobel Peace Prize went to two journalists, Maria Ressa of the Philippines and Dmitry Muratov of Russia. Both have braved political persecution and threats to hold the autocratic leaders of their countries—Rodrigo Duterte and Vladimir Putin—to account, battling against the online disinformation and attacks on the press that shore up their support.

    "In a battle for facts, in a battle for truth, journalism is activism," Ressa said in 2020. Disinformation, she said, "is how you transform a democracy. This is death by a thousand cuts. The same thing is happening in the United States. I think the goal of influence operations or information operations is to seed it, repeat it, incite hate and...change the way real people think, and that impacts the real world. This is happening all around the world. That's what the research has shown us, that's what the data shows us."

    In 1854, the elite slaveholders who controlled the Democratic Party at the time pressured Congress to bow to their will and overturn the Missouri Compromise that had kept enslavement out of the western territories. Northern men, who disagreed among themselves on party allegiance, and immigration, and economic policies, and women's rights, and Black rights, recognized that the acquisition of new western slave states would mean it was only a question of time until the enslavers took over the federal government and made their oligarchical system national.

    Northern men recognized they must put their political differences aside until they saved democracy. Abraham Lincoln later remembered that men were "thunderstruck and stunned" by the passage of the law that overturned the Missouri Compromise, "and we reeled and fell in utter confusion. But we rose each fighting, grasping whatever he could first reach—a scythe—a pitchfork—a chopping axe, or a butcher's cleaver…. "'[O]ur drill, our dress, and our weapons, are not entirely perfect and uniform," Lincoln said, but "[w]hen the storm shall be past, [men] shall find us still Americans; no less devoted to the continued Union and prosperity of the country than heretofore."

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited October 2021

    I wonder if the Republicans who wrote those op-ed pieces are part of The Lincoln Project. I had seen posts from TLP a week or so ago promising some fireworks in the near future.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2021

    I hadn’t seen the entry by HSR until you posted it, Jackie. We can only hope more Reps will do the same, vote Dem to gain control of their own party back. However, who’s to say that will work, that the extremists will be bled out. But my god, they must do something! I am not sure Reps actually do value democracy. They merely want power.

    Also, I agree the effing media must do their part to save democracy! Wtf are they doing? Richardson writes: “Mainstream television and newspapers have been slow to identify the radicalization of the Republican Party as a threat to democracy.“ We need to holler at the media to s p e l l i t o u t so people truly grasp the threats. "The future of American democracy depends, frankly, on whether journalists stop burying their head in 'the work' of balanced-but-misleading reporting and admit that, yes, actually, we are at war."


  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    Give the best you have received from the past to the best that you may come to know in the future. Accept life daily not as a cup to be drained but as a chalice to be filled with whatsoever things are honest, pure, lovely, and of good report. Making a living is best undertaken as part of the more important business of making a life. Every now and again take a good look at something not made with hands—a mountain, a star, the turn of a stream. There will come to you wisdom and patience and solace, and above all the assurance that you are not alone in the world. -Sidney Lovett

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    I have been saying here and along the way as well, thinking about how the media is treating so much of our political news. For instance just this a.m. they were talking about the terrible ratings Pres. Biden is having and saying they won't get better until he gets control of covid. Well, numbers wax and wane a great deal of the time but for the most part, the former guy had low numbers most of his four yrs.

    Also this a.m. when asked if that would be enough for people ( this would include Reps. and Independents ) to vote for the other guy in '24 and the answer was no. The other guy is simply not wanted. That is part of what made me think there is something o,f I need to find an item that will have people dialing back in or taking a certain paper or going to a certain Internet site. I do think numbers could be better, but it is far from time to play a 'dirge'.

    I am anxious ( it comes out today ) to get and read Adam Schiff's book " Midnight in Washington ". The day our democracy almost died and still could. Schiff was on with Rachel Maddow last night and she said that for a book written by a politician it is soooo highly readable and understandable. I have always found listening to Schiff easy on the ears and pretty spot on. I also think his work on the other guys impeachments was extraordinarily excellent. Had it not been for the mindless a**kissing to the max Reps. I think there were enough that might have convicted the other guy. I don't know that there is a chapter in this book detailing how the media carries water for the other side ( including the former guy ) but it would not surprise me. I do feel like we/I could come away with more understanding of just why we can't rid ourselves of the orange loon. The Reps. are a mess on their own, but made far worse an certainly more out in the open since the 4 loon yrs.

    Hope that will give me a lot more insight about a lot of this.

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited October 2021

    Adam Schiff was my congressman for about six years until redistricting moved us into a new congressional district. I've met him a number of times; he is exactly how he seems on TV. Sharp, witty, down to earth, and just generally a really nice guy.

    He used to come to our elementary school every year to take part in "Read Across America". I had some great conversations with him during the Bush years. He absolutely loathed Cheney and (rightly) thought The Shrub was a grade A moron.

    Trish


  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2021
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    He who experiences the unity of life
    sees his own Self in all beings,
    and all beings in his own Self.

    - The Buddha

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    Frightening how in-decent the Reps. have actually turned out to be. I really wonder if we can recover since so many of them just went it seemed hook, line, and sinker into the Trumpian mode and have not really come out. Being transparent and in your face ( extremely un-becoming ) has indeed become a way of life for them. I hope it does not work, but and it is a big BUT they have to lose resoundingly pretty much in as many, if not all, elections coming up until past '24.

    Part of that was seeing the other immoral, conscience lacking , guy who was in the lead. Owning the other side ( or what they call owning ) gives then great pleasure and quite a charge. That needs to die a crushing death. Here's hoping.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021
  • pingpong1953
    pingpong1953 Member Posts: 362
    edited October 2021

    Trish, thanks for sharing your experiences with Adam Schiff. He has always struck me as solid and sincere. I hope he gets to serve for many, many more years.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    A good link and it is one of the other people I have great respect going for.

    https://bit.ly/2X9bDMN

    It really does I think come down to being willing not only because it is very much the right thing to do, but this is a thing that will begin to make a big difference in how perceptions are formed and help them un-form. The other guy had no qualms what-so-ever in destroying norms and defying laws. Not much choice when loon was in charge with his thin as ice helper Bill Barr. It was easy to thumb your nose at a subpoena then. It is now time, and with the current DOJ at hand, to make darn sure the hammer of Thor is allowed to convince people that breaking the law ( along with a lot of norms ) will spell nothing but grief for them. I think even Bill Barr could use some roughing up.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    Peace of mind just can't be bought. Trust me: Even if your conscience doesn't stop you from playing dirty to get what you want, once you get it, it will keep you from enjoying it. As my mother used to say, "A good conscience is God's eye." Which is why I always prefer a loss to an underhanded gain; the one brings pain at the moment, the other for all time. -Patti LaBelle

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    Doesn't seem like much has changed. The same stunted news seems to be in way more places than not. The one thing I can agree on news wise is it seems orange loon is getting even crazier. That great big ego of his ( huge mental disability ) just won't get out of the way. He is taking people back to 2020 and the 'stolen' from him election. If this isn't adjudicated his way he is going to tell HIS voters not to go to the polls in '24. Maybe not in '22 either. Do I hear the grinding of many sets of Reps. teeth. Mr. old time loser is pushing the Reps. so far down they may never see daylight again.

    I'm sure that is where those Reps. who are now saying vote for Democrats are getting it. They have not really agreed with the orange loon all along, but now see that if they don't change some sort of trajectory now, it may be too late. It is said that the 2020 election did prove that Reps. skipping the vote for the loon ( though so many voted the down ballot ) made all the difference. About a 7 million vote difference. Only a part of that number was Reps. not voting for Trump, but altogether it certainly did give Biden a boost up. It really is the loon's ego which is all that will ever get stroked from now on. He is, was, and will remain a loser and that is why he is such poison to the Reps. party. The longer it takes for his hardliners to get that, the worse it will be. I read a piece on Palmer which indicated that Cheney, Kinzinger and others who maybe aren't as visible as those two ( Romney ) really should think about voting Democratic to once and for all ( oh there would be a lot of pain in it ) squash the poison that has taken hold of so many of the hard right. Too many have had to show obedience they do not feel or maybe don't even have but can't stand the thought of being blistered. If you can't take a stand now, there may not be enough left to bother with. It is going to be interesting -- just wish it wasn't so scary.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited October 2021
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    That was a wonderful thing for Andrew McCabe. I hated it so when the LOON did what he did -- talk about getting even, but Mr. McCabe gets the last laugh. I doubt he harbors lots of ill will but I hope he gave himself a moment to revel in the reversal of the vindictiveness. I'm also thinking that here is another thing that didn't really work out for the LOON. He has lost quite a few rounds now and I'm pretty sure there is more of that in store for him.


  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2021

    It is a good thing McCabe's pension was restored. I'm not sure it was Garland's doing, though. McCabe filed a lawsuit and this article from NPR says he reached a settlement with the Justice Department. The story highlights the massive vindictiveness of the orange blob.


    Fired FBI official Andrew McCabe wins retirement benefits and back pay in settlement


    Jacquelyn Martin/AP

    The Justice Department has agreed to restore full law enforcement benefits and provide some attorney fees for former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who was fired by the Trump administration only hours before his retirement three years ago.

    The settlement will resolve a civil lawsuit filed by McCabe, who argued that his ouster was the result of a "years-long public vendetta" driven by the former president.

    The Justice Department demoted and then dismissed him on the eve of his 50th birthday in March 2018, when his FBI annuity would have vested.

    "I think the message that you get loud and clear from the terms of the settlement is that this never should have happened," McCabe said. "It feels like complete vindication, because that's what it is."

    It feels like complete vindication, because that's what it is.

    The agreement follows a scathing online campaign by the former president to tarnish McCabe, who spent 21 years in service at the bureau.

    A day after the dismissal, Trump tweeted that it represented "a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for democracy." Earlier, Trump had pushed the bureau to "clean house" and urged authorities to take action against McCabe before his planned retirement.

    In his lawsuit, McCabe argued the firing violated his First Amendment rights by punishing him for his "perceived affiliation" with the Democratic Party and violated his Fifth Amendment due process rights by leaving him with little time to review evidence against him and prepare a defense in early 2018.

    One of McCabe's attorneys at the time said a senior Justice Department official told him the department was making things up as it went along. Correspondence among the FBI, the Justice Department and the inspector general obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and other means suggested a race to get rid of McCabe under pressure from the White House.

    The settlement talks intensified only after U.S. District Judge Randy Moss gave McCabe's lawyers a green light to seek documents and testimony from former and current officials involved in the firing, including then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

    Trump had accused McCabe of conflicts of interest because McCabe's wife, Jill McCabe, ran without success for a seat in the Virginia Senate and accepted contributions from Democratic Party stalwart and then-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime ally of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Andrew McCabe countered that he had run the arrangement past FBI lawyers and ethics officials.

    Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz later examined McCabe's conduct as part of a broader review of FBI activities in the election year of 2016. Horowitz concluded that McCabe "lacked candor" when he spoke with investigators about disclosures he authorized to The Wall Street Journal during the heated presidential race. Prosecutors brought the matter to a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., but McCabe was never charged with criminal wrongdoing.

    McCabe said the inspector general report was used by senior Justice Department officials as a "pretext" to dismiss him. McCabe opened investigations into Trump after the then-president fired then-FBI Director James Comey in the spring of 2017.

    "The thing that concerns me going forward is firing me 26 hours before my retirement sends an unbelievably chilling message to the rest of the men and women of the FBI," McCabe told NPR's Morning Edition two years ago. "It sends a message that if you stand up for what you think is right, and you do the right thing, and you honor your obligations to this organization and the Constitution, that you too could be personally targeted and lose those things that you've been building towards your whole career."

    The Justice Department did not admit wrongdoing or apologize to McCabe in the court filing late Thursday, but one part of the document says, "the Parties agree that Executive Branch officials outside the Department of Justice and its components should not comment publicly on ongoing career civil service employee disciplinary matters ... so as not to create any appearance of improper political influence."


    >>> The settlement follows mediation between McCabe and the Justice Department this summer. The deal will restore McCabe's full retirement package, purge his personnel file, allow for the return of his FBI badge and cover fees for his attorneys at the Arnold & Porter law firm.


    His attorney, Murad Hussain, said, "What happened to Andrew was a travesty, not just for him and his family, but the rule of law."

    Hussain said they filed a lawsuit in part "to take a stand for the rights of all civil servants, and that's exactly what this settlement does."

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2021

    Sotomayor: SCOTUS Changed After Study Found Female Justices Were Interrupted More


    "Regrettably, that's a dynamic that exists not just on the court but in society in general," the Supreme Court justice said in a discussion on diversity and inclusion.


    Nina Golgowski

    10/14/21

    Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, seen in 2019, has said that justices have become more mindful of interrupting one another following a study on women being disproportionately interrupted by male justices.

    The U.S. Supreme Court changed the way oral arguments are heard after studies found that women were being disproportionately interrupted by male justices and advocates while speaking, Justice Sonia Sotomayor said in a discussion on diversity and inclusion this week during which she also raised concerns about the justices' limited professional experience in areas like civil rights.

    Sotomayor, speaking with New York University's School of Law on Wednesday, said the justices have become more mindful of interrupting one another and Chief Justice John Roberts has become more of a referee in the wake of a particular study, "Justice, Interrupted," that examined how justices compete to have influence.

    "In the case of that study, I think it had an enormous impact," she told NYU School of Law professor Kenji Yoshino. "You will see us even now when we're speaking, a judge will say, 'I'm sorry, did I interrupt you?' And if you say, 'I was going to finish something' they will say 'please, go ahead.' That did not happen as much before and so that study had a great impact."

    Sotomayor went on to point out that the 2017 study didn't necessarily shed an illuminating light on the issue for her, noting that women tend to get interrupted or dismissed in society in general.

    "Regrettably, that's a dynamic that exists not just on the court but in society in general. Most of the time women say things and they're not heard in the same way that men who may say the identical thing," she said.

    Sotomayor used the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg as an example of someone who was overlooked while speaking on the nation's highest court.

    "Now here's a woman who no one doubts was powerful, yet she was small in stature, diminutive, and she had a very, very soft voice. And it was not unusual for when she said something, for it to either not be heard, or not fully grasped and as a result often things that she had said were picked up by others and made their own without attribution," she said. "It is a nature of our discourse as men and women that that inclination of disregarding women is all too common. I think that study, however, had a great impact on the dynamic of my court. And I suspect on the dynamic of other courts as well. People paid attention and it made for self examination of behavior."

    Four years after that study's publication, the Supreme Court last month announced that the justices will now have two minutes of uninterrupted time to speak and ask questions during oral arguments, rather than the traditional "free for all" format, as SCOTUS Blog reported.

    It was not unique for Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, seen in 2019, to share her opinions and have them used by someone else without attribution to her, said Sotomayor.


    This change noticeably appears to benefit Justice Clarence Thomas, who for years has been known to rarely speak in the courtroom. Thomas suddenly became active in oral arguments when they were held over the phone because of the pandemic and justices were instructed to ask questions one at a time, without interruption.

    Thomas has said his usual silence in the court stems from an aversion to interruptions and his concern that justices waste the counsel's limited time to present their case by asking unnecessary questions.

    "Maybe it's the Southerner in me. Maybe it's the introvert in me, I don't know. I think that when somebody's talking, somebody ought to listen," he said in 2012.

    While justices have worked to be more respectful and inclusive in recent years, Sotomayor emphasized there's still more work to be done on diversifying the court. This is particularly needed in what she called "professional diversity" as there are no justices with experience in environmental law, immigration, criminal justice outside of white-collar crime, or even civil rights.

    "When Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed, we lost our only civil rights lawyer. There are no civil rights lawyers left on the court," she said. "Some of my colleagues may dispute that because some of the work they've done, on behalf of the government, may have included civil rights but we have no real lawyer who has been in the trenches on civil rights issues, whether it's on women's rights or racial rights or even disability rights."

    Sotomayor said she sees herself as hopeful by nature, but that these shortcomings are concerning.

    "There are so many areas of law that the court touches and whose decisions impact in such tremendous ways, that I do worry that the authorities who are selecting judges are not paying enough attention to that kind of diversity as well," she said.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
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  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2021

    How would the vaccine roll out have unfolded if Biden was not prez? If the antivaxxers are so pro orange, what would that have looked like? Would their orange idol have said, “well get the vaccine or don’t get it, it’s up to you”. What shape would our nation be in? What would the hospital situation be? And lots of people were wanting the orange oligarch to be credited for the warp speed on the vaccine but then don’t want to tell people to get it or don’tget it themselves. Such total insanity.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2021

    https://bit.ly/3vejeGv This was a little hard to read but I sure hope in the end it works out for us..


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