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IllinoisLady

The Vaccinated Are Paying For The Unvaccinated As COVID Hospitalizations Cost Medicare $24,000 Each

98% of all hospitalizations for COVID are unvaccinated, and it is the vaccinated who are paying for the hospital stays of the unvaccinated.
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The figures given in this piece are mainly based on people who are in hospital, but not put on ventilators and if on ventilators the costs go up substantially. So the burdens are quite high for those who insist on their " freedoms ". Not only in the daily adjustments we make ( keeping distance, masks, etc. ) but making Insurances cost more for those who work hard on the precautions and who have done so from the beginning. No wonder so many are happy with Pres. Biden for insisting at long last that people just get it done or lose their jobs or face lots of testing. It is high time those who are abiding by the rules get to quit being held hostage by those who are above it all. At least their Insurance premiums will go up too.

pingpong1953

I'm surprised the insurance companies haven't started protesting. All of this "freedom" is going to cost them a fortune. I wonder how much premiums are going to go up. Yikes!

Nkb

Not to mention all the people who can't get seen for ER or other care due to hospitals being overrun by unvaccinated!

I heard that many insurances are not paying for covid care for unvaccinated and Delta airlines is charging a health insurance premium of $200 a month to the employees who won't get vaccinated due to their increased costs and if they are sick due to covid and are unvaccinated no sick leave benefits.

a high majority of the American people agree with Biden re vaccinations and infrastructure etc, but, the GOP does not care what people want- they just want to be re-elected. Heather Cox Richardson said that the extremists In the GOP are getting rid of the moderates and soon all that will be left are the extremists. the extremist GOP are doubling down on crazy to keep trump and his followers happy.

Eric Swalwell is a great guy, very logical thinker, real people person and a cancer survivor.

Betrayal

Chances are the unvaccinated might also lack any type of healthcare insurance since they reject any type of government interference.

IllinoisLady

Last three posters -- all good points. Nkb, I didn't know Eric Swalwell had cancer. Should hope he is all right. I have always liked him. I think he also became a father this past yr.

And yes, the hospitals are being overrun. Our hospital here is full but I live in a really small town. Likely ( I didn't do a search on it ) most of the smaller local hospitals we have are full. I haven't been there since my kidney and ureter were removed a yr. and a half ago but the big hospital across the river from us in St. Louis, Mo ( Barnes Jewish Hosp. ) has fairly stringent standards going on again and I'm sure they are carrying a big case load as well.

Glad Nkb you and others here read Heather Cox Richardson. Divine puts some of her articles in here from time to time. It is hard to keep up for me and Ms. Richardson makes it a bit easier.

IllinoisLady

I will not follow where the path may lead, but I will go where there is no path, and I will leave a trail.

Muriel Strade

IllinoisLady

It is being billed as a massive flop, but in part due to the fact that so many looked on it as something of a set-up by the government to pull in more people to arrest. That isn't in any way true, of course. I think some of the original troublemakers ( many who have some of their numbers still in jail ) really don't want to call any more attention to themselves either. Who knows what their long-range plans might be right now, but keeping distance from the 1/6 upheaval they well know is a benefit.

Nkb

oops Illinoislady- it wasn't Eric Swalwell who had cancer it was another Bay Area congressman named Mark DeSaulnier who has cancer- CLL since 2015-

sorry.

Heather Cox Richardson also does a podcast answering people's questions that is quite interesting- can listen while exercising etc.

ruthbru

Picture from the rally this weekend.

IllinoisLady

Nkb - thanks for clearing up the cancer dx. on Swalwell. I seem to have to work so hard on comprehending fully what I read that I just assumed that I missed this thing that surprised me. We all tend to skewer some of the things we talk about -- but everyone here is gracious and generally point it out nicely. I bet the Richardson podcasts are pretty interesting. I've only listened to one or two ( none of the Richardson ones ) and gave it up since it is often hysterical here. Animals needed in or out, fam. members losing things and need help finding and trying to get everyone fed. Then I have a schedule to keep myself so it just seems trying to listen and do several other things at the same time no longer works well for me at my age.

Ruth, I think maybe there weren't many more at that rally. I read this morning ( disclaimer because I didn't get a change to go back and re-check ) that there were more reporters it seemed. I think the great non-great orange one was dis-interested and indicating he too thought it a set-up and no one much from the 1/6 'attendees' groups were going to bother. They too thought they were being led to a slaughter so to speak and advised that they shouldn't grace the premises for that reason. An outright fizzle.

IllinoisLady

It would be nice for sure.

IllinoisLady

IllinoisLady

OMG sez's the man with no shame what-so-ever.

IllinoisLady

ruthbru

IllinoisLady

I read earlier somewhere that the Reps. the orange one approached were not interested in pursuing this:

M. McConnell is able to raise millions for those who are running so those men have no interest in slaughtering their cash cow. On the other hand, Trump has raked in over one hundred million and not let one thin dime go to those who will be trying to get re-elected. Almost an un-fair choice totally that Trump is asking these people to make.

IllinoisLady

Sure seems to fit to me:

IllinoisLady

Having a criminal con at the top just always invited more. No surprise to me.

ruthbru

Not political, but good advice; especially in these times:

Betrayal

Ruth: Thanks, I do think we lose sight of the value of self-care in these trying times. Lovely quote.

IllinoisLady

To live content with small means; to seek elegance rather than luxury; and refinement rather than fashion; to be worthy, not respectable; and wealthy, not rich; to study hard, think quietly, talk gently, act frankly; to listen to stars and birds, to babes and sages, with open heart; to bear all cheerfully, do all bravely, await occasion, hurry never; in a word, to let the spiritual, unbidden, and unconscious to grow up through the common. This is to be my symphony. -William Henry Channing

IllinoisLady

Ruth, I love that quote too and you and Betrayal are right. We are as humans responsible for many, many things, but we are also responsible while creating joy and as much contentment for others as we can, creating it for ourselves as well. I have seen several quotes on this same subject but yours is decorated and I really enjoy that.

cm2020

IllinoisLady.........I am not sure if I have ever told you how much I look forward to and appreciate your daily quotes. They never fail to either make me think, reassure me, or make me smile. I am so glad you post them.

Ruth...Thank you for the important reminder. I didn't know how I needed it until I read it.

IllinoisLady

em2020. Quotes are my joy and help me define my life and how I would like to live it. Always happy to know they ( quotes ) have positive affects on others.

IllinoisLady

It is through our extended family that we first learn to compromise and
come to an understanding that even if we don't always agree
about things we can still love and look out for each other.

Sara Sheridan

IllinoisLady

How many times I've thought this to myself:

IllinoisLady

Why oh why do they say their God will protect them when they refuse to use what ( he/science ) had made to do just that. NUTS out in force.

IllinoisLady

What I am reading in the news would seem to indicate that the orange thing isn't going to let up. Just recently having sent a letter to GA to ask that the elections results of the state be overturned in his favor. Really !!! He wants to ( how her operates ) prove to the world at large that he is the rightful 'winner' and if nothing else wants the doubt on Biden's end to stay as high as possible. He also wants to run again in '24. He thinks a presidency was stolen from him and he therefore has something to prove. Why shouldn't he want to. It would not only save face for him, but give him the only job in the world that someone else does for you while you enrich yourself totally and go play golf. I do think though he is much more concerned with trying to regain his ego by re -taking what he thinks was taken from him.

I also think that it won't happen. Too many investigations going on that could bear many fruits.

magiclight

Why has so much attention been given to Gabby Petito disappearing? Joy Reid calls it Missing White Girl Syndrome. There are several discussions of this phenomenon that talk about how safe white people feel when dealing with police when black/brown people do not. Systemic bias appears in all aspects of American life.

exbrnxgrl

magiclight,

I was thinking the same thing myself just the other day.