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  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    yes.  thinking about you, tillycat

    on bing just now, their daily usually wonderful photo, rambutan fruit, a tropical fruit I'd not heard of, tasty & 5 of them a day one of the articles states can seriously reduce the chance of cancer 

  • Tillycat
    Tillycat Member Posts: 130
    edited September 2012

    I am home, it was a lovely sunny day but a bit chilly so I am happy to be tucked up and cozy in my bed.  Feeling pretty good which is nice because I suppose that the last few days have been a bit of a roller coaster ride.  

    I dont know about the rest of you but i tend not to think to deeply about things when bad stuff is happening to me I just get on with it - which i guess is why everyone always says how brave we are - I'm sure you all get it as well :-) but after, when thing start to calm down, I think it all through  and feel quite overwhelmed and sometimes quite panicky.  The doctor at the hospital seemed to realise this - he gave me some lorazepam to have at hope 'just in case I needed them'

    I also have blood thinning injections which I will need for at least 6 months.  I did the first injection in my tummy this morning and it left a lovely bruise - only another 179 to go.

    Colin (the cat) and Harley (our labradoodle) have been my shadows since I got back, they are both asleep on my bed as I write this post

    Tillycat xx

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited September 2012

    Oh Tilly, isn't your own bed wonderful after a stay in the hospital.

    We all hear you about the overwhelming feelings that creep up on us.  When people tell me how brave I am, I tell them they have no idea how scared I have been.  I just have to keep going.  The other choices do not appeal to me!

    I went through the blood thinner injections.  But my clot was only in my arm, not nearly as serious as yours was.  Still, my arm looked like a piece of rotting meat after all the injections.  Eventually, I was able to go on to pills for the last 4 months.

    Love pets.  They just know.

    Have a great sleep in your own home tonight. 

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2012

    Tillycat, it's good to read that you're home! Harley and Colin must be so relieved too. Smile

    There were some recent additions to a thread about those blood thinning tummy injections that might give you some others' insights too. Here's the link.

    • The Mods

  • Tillycat
    Tillycat Member Posts: 130
    edited September 2012

    Thank you

    That link was really useful - I now have an idea of how/where to give the injection so I don't bruise too much.

    Tx

  • DeborahC
    DeborahC Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2012

    I don't know about the post that said you could inject into your butt - better ask before doing that.  I was told stomach is prefered and I could do fatty part of upper thigh if I was careful not hit muscle.  I just kept moving from side to side.  I am now on warfarin only.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited September 2012
    Nice to see you back, Tilly !

    Take Care.
  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited October 2012
    Welcome back to your own bed, Tillycat! Smile Home really is paradise when you've been away.
  • steelrose
    steelrose Member Posts: 3,798
    edited October 2012

    So happy to read the post from your home, Tilly! Oh boy do I understand the "getting on with it" through crisis times... Now you need good sleep and lots of spoiling. Sounds like Colin and Harley are looking out for you! Rest and heal...



    xoxo



    Rose.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Tillycat - what the others said! I think when we are in crisis we tend to coast because we are so busy dealing with things - like an airplane that picks up speed and altitude to get through a rough, rainy patch quickly. Then, when there is a moment to breathe, we panic. That's so expected. Glad that your kitty and pup are being great bedmates. I hope the lorazepam helps.

  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited October 2012

    Welcome home Tilly :-)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Tilly, hope you are still doing well and resting well.

    Abigail, thought of you this morning.  I was taking shower hahaha and needed to do my lymph brushing.  I can never remember which direction, always had to find my paperwork on it.  But I remembered you said, away from the heart.  So simple.  I remembered and did it without getting out, drying off, finding papers and going back in shower.  Started my day off better, as can be imagined.

    LOVEEssa

  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited October 2012

    Thank you Diane and Abigail for the reminder about dry skin brushing.

    I had forgotten why I had that brush next to the shower. Embarassed I just got out of the habit my alternative doctor recommended.

    It feels so good and makes your face rosy. Brushing must unclog the pores of old skin to help detox --besides the lymphatic boost.

    Blessings to all on our journey!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2012

    but I think it's toward the heart, that makes more sense anyway, or toward the eliminatory organs, but get out your papers on it & tell us for sure.  a bad night last night but I didn't feel like icing, hadn't needed to do that for a long time, (the red is now allover the cyst, & there's a thread in ibc not diagnosed but worried there seems could be like mine.  her theiir doctors said it's not ibc because she's lived so long.)  got out my long handled bathe brush & scrubbed my back with soappy brush.  the lymph massage I do is with hands in bed.  before the brush I put on blackthorn oil & after the hot bath, I didn't wt it, organic rosemary oil.

    been googling ellagic acid, & I remember you gave a site for rasberry seeds?  but havn't had time to look for it on your posts. 

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2012

    gary's been talking about ginger root in peer reviewed journals, many many health benefits, esp breast cancer, but it's so woody you need to juice it to get 100% of its benefits:  6 inches of the root with green apple juice & cucumber juice.

  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited October 2012

    hmm that might taste similar to ginger ale. My dad bought nme a hunk of ginger and I did not like it. I do like ginger ale though.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2012

    I put about an inch of fresh ginger in my juice every day.  it makes it a bit hot but with all the other stuff:  lettuce, parsley, cucumber (yes) green apple, pear, organic strawberry tops, (ellagic acis in berries), the rest in my oatmeal, celery, it's not noticable, nice in fact.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited October 2012
    I put fresh ginger in many things (including juice), plus take ginger supplements.  It helps the stomach (which is needed with most of the BC medications, if you take them), helps counteract constipation, and is an anti-inflammatory.  It's great stuff, and I happen to love the taste, which makes it a double plus Laughing.  Most asian markets will also sell young ginger at certain times of the year.  It's not woody at all, but doesn't have the strength of flavor, either.  I don't know if it is as effective.
  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2012

    & it's so not expensive.  I also put watercress in the morning juice, wrapped in the lettuce leaf along with curley parsley, strawberry tops, celery & the ginger piece.  still have some from this morning, ate too much salt today, gonna have a glass of that now cold juice now

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    The ellagic acid you buy is synthetic.  Will not work for breast cancer.  No.  Please.  What you need is the red and black raspberry seed powder (Meeker variety or highly comparable) which when taken turns into ellagic acid within body.  That is only way it works.  The body makes the ellagic acid from the nutrition and the cancer cells stop multiplying and soon after they begin their natural death process. Isn't nature miraculous?

    Abigail - thanks for input.... and hahaha now I have to remember where the info is.  I have picture from someone on how to do, cannot even recall who gave it to me.  darn it.  Perhaps a web search, but only stopped in for a minute to drop off hug pic on another thread, back to work asap.

    I make ginger tea fresh from grated root, it helped my tummy upset when cancer was active in the late spring.  Needed it badly back then.  Wish I could put Aigail in my pocket to show me all these juices and recipes and poultices.

    Abigail, please share again the poultice Joy told you about that helped the pain.

    Later

    LOVEEssa

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2012

    YES rasberry seed powder, esp black ras I should think.  perhaps gggling that would get to somewhere other than seed packets for 5 bucks for a few seeds to plant.............

    It wasn't joy gave me the homeopathic protocol, but another naturopath I came in contact with a year ago when I decided I must do something.  It's very very messy, but I've kept it up, once a week, 45 minutes, soak a cotton cloth, I've cut up a white sish cloth, in castor oil & apply it.  washing the packs out is also vv messy.  but the lesion (hate that word too) hasn't broken since joy worned that it would get infected:  it didn't, but I don't irritate it no matter how uncomfortable it gets.  keeping an eye on the thread about the ladies who seem to have what I have 

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited October 2012

    I started dry brushing after I read about it in one of the crazy sexy cancer books.  There were a few useful nuggets in there.  She said towards the heart so that's what I've been doing. 

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2012

    good to hear.  & from the face & neck & shoulders, pretty much no other way to go.  & the legs & arms & sides too, the free radicals arn't going to fly off your toes & fingers I'd think

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2012

    or perhaps the lower belly & lower back away from the heart.  the lymph system is circulatory but not connected to the veneos/arterial systems (??).  I wish I could remember how gary did it on that sleepaway, at the time I had no idea why he was doing it, or what had happened 

  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited October 2012

    I see there are a lot of dry brush massage videos on Youtube. I had no idea there were so many diifferent techniques. The original technique I learned was massaging in circles.

    I think I may get a smaller brush. One of the therapists says it's an immune stimulant and to do this if you're going to be around people with colds. Also, I see I've missed brushing my hands and feet.

     Gee, it would be nice to have a massage therapist do this! I get relaxed just thinking about it.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited October 2012

    RE:  GSE

    Ok ladies, I need your help.

    Before this  damn LE went wild, I was looking into a  PARTICULAR GSE for the BC .  The brand used in the studies,.  Now I cant remember squat!  Lymphedema has taken the front burner over the BC for sure.

    Can anyone help ?

    I am hearing this GSE can help with edema>

    Many thanks to you all ...pls feel free to PM/  its faster !

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Not sure how many of you have seen this - chillipadi is now an angel:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topic/794574?page=1#idx_24

    She fought for wellness, and so bravely. Neither conventional nor alternative tx have a prayer next to her disease. This is a time for humility. Chillipadi did both types of treatment.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    You're right, Athena.  Doesn't matter what we choose, but that we are doing for ourselves what we believe is best to the end.  Chillipaddi was a sweetheart on earth and is with us still.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    I am sad that she was bullied off of BCO. To any arrogant person who thinks she died because of the tx she did: you are wrong. Stage IV cancer kills 100 percent of its victims - when chemo and rads don't, that is.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2012

    Athena - she chose to not undergo surgery when she had a local recurrence, electing instead to try alternative treatment in the form of the Budwig protocol - that was her mistake. She was very brave and I am saddended by her passing.

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