OMG They Found the Cure for Stupid

EmilyInOntario

My personal opinion is that everyone has a right to their own views on treatment. I do not go on the Alternative thread and bash everyone who truly believes that the alternative approach is the way to go. In return I expect the same respect here. If I think coffee enemas and asparagus as treatments are equivalent to the "snake oil" remedies of old then that's my right. I've been in the medical field for 30 years and I have my views based on what I have seen. I will not apologize for my views but will never go on the alternative therapy thread and tell those members that they are "wrong" or that the "joke's on them" or they will "regret their decisions" as has been done to us on this thread. We must respect everyone's differences and accept that others have different views. I respectfully request that those who do not agree with the content of this thread respect the rest of us on this thread and refrain from being offensive and threatening in their posts and suggest they don't come here to post. It works both ways...

Ha..this is way too serious for me. Under tornado watch here...keep those comics and jokes coming...

thefuzzylemon

EMILY!! I raise my glass and toast you my friend!!

Anonymous

A little more humor to emphasize our cultural differences:

TERROR THREAT LEVELS:
 
The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats, and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved".  Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross".  The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940, when tea supplies nearly ran out.  Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance".  The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards".  They don't have any other levels.  This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide".  The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender".  The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing".  Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides".

The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs".  They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbor" and "Lose".

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy.  These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

New Zealand has raised its security levels - from "baaa" to "BAAAA".  Due to continuing defense cutbacks, New Zealand has only one more level of escalation, which is "I hope Australia will come and rescue us".

Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to "She'll be all right, mate".  Three more escalation levels remain: "Crikey!", "I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend" and "The barbie is cancelled"  So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

None of us should have to apologize for this thread. It is a *humor* thread. Amazing that anyone (despite cultural differences) could view it any other way. Nanay, with all due respect, needs to stop reading it and/or commenting on it.

EmilyInOntario

bookart

Emily!  ROFL!

MBJ

Heidi:  Lol!  My BC friend from the UK sent me this awhile ago!!

MBJ

Emily:  LOL!!!!  Twice today I have been egged.  Bagoookkk!!!

Eph3_12

Reader's Digest even agrees---Laughter is the BEST medicine! 

I can't keep up, but I try!

SandyAust

Ok HeidiToo you have just joined Makraz on my list of "I so get and love your humour" favourite members.

Oh and by the way before I got to the bottom (down under) of the list I was thinking that Australia had just raised it's alert from:

"Strewth mate you're a drongo"

to

"Bugger off"

Anyway I started this thread, well actually Aunty Lyn started it when she sent that email. An email that arrived after her sister nearly killed (seriously the ICU was involved) her husband after being totally sucked in by a wise old Chinese alternative medicine practitioner (who turned out to be a dole bludging Maori fraudulant quack who had never been to China). The same quack my MIL (Aunty Lyn's sister) tried to talk my mother into pressuring me to see when I had cancer at 36 with two four year olds. The same Aunty Lyn who knows that my mother passed from cancer three years after my diagnosis.  She received virtually NO treatment conventional, alternate or otherwise, she died really quickly.  I had to charge across the continent to her deathbed, she was alive when I landed in Adelaide, but dead by the time I got to Hobart.

Aunty Lyn knows all this. Aunty Lyn was also previously asked not to send those kinds of emails to me. She was asked very politely and with great kindness.  

So when I got the asparagus email I snapped. So rather than give her a piece of my mind, I came here, somewhere she never comes and vented.  I felt SOOOOO much better. LOL

I am sorry for calling her "Stupid".  I meant to say "Stoopid"

Now back to the chicken chat. 

Alyson

Pleased you feel better coming here Sandy. I think I might have told her to bugger off or worse.

We don't get Peeps here, I had to 'google' them. Certainly getmarshmellow and we have marshmellow covered eggs which I know they don't get in the UK - have had to send them to my children when they were on their OE there.

Heidi, that security ratings is great, had forgotten about it, like Sandy I think we lack any security. We are friends again with the US cause we did tell them to bugger off over nuclear vessels visiting the country so you wouldn't play soldiers with us any more, however we are allowed to join in war games again with US and Aus.

This is too serious. Cluck cluck. Where is the asparagus?

SandyAust

Oops Alyson,  The Aussies were telling the Drongos to Bugger Off not the New Zealanders.  You aren't Drongos, you're Kiwis. That's different.

Yes I am about due for my next asparugus fix, the hands are getting shaky (do Chickens have hands? probably not.)

puff puff pass

SandyAust

Leaving overpopulation, global warming, wars, and famine aside for just a moment,  I sometimes think how lucky we are that there are six billion people in world.  If we find someone we don't like or agree with, we can just move on to the next person.

NOW...when you get to 5,999,999,998 you can't start to stress, become a hermit or smoke asparagus.

xo

SandyAust

So that frequent button pushing thing with the elevator doesn't work ey?

Bugger!!!

Alyson

Sandy I actually would have liked to tell your aunt to bugger off.

Must make dinner, this very clever person -not - forgot to register the car so had to wait until DH ggot home to go to the supermarket. Will be back later.

SandyAust

Double bugger!!

SandyAust

Cute Catchick'n!

sas-schatzi

It's 3am now wonder why  I' was on the insomnia board by myself apparently some nerve was hit between the alternatives and us.  Since I grew up with an alternative DAD and understand ostracism of alternative, but embraced orthodox medicine. I will jump right in and say. There can be a blend BUT use the science.

Double blind studies started in the late 40's They have tremendous value. But the scientific method requires that they go through at least three repeats. The problem with any study is the director. Data can be skewed-- translation you can make it come out the way you want it too. That is why clinical trials have to go through so many phases--Each phase is a proof that the last phase was valid. Each trial phase includes a bigger cohort study of people. Yet we have drugs get to market, and then in after market sales we find they harm or kill people

That's wtc---------

Alternative approach is not based on science, It is based on anecdotal information i. e. well my aunt had this affect etc. Many alternative sites depend on affirmation of people. No real data, just statements like "It worked for me".

Both systems suck-------

what is becoming available is genetic testing that shows if a drug works. It is all based on the liver cytochrome passage. 2d6,2c19,2c9 1a2  3a4 etc.  Multiply this by ten or twenty routes that a drug can take in the liver. Our ability of testing how a drug works is limited, but research is improving that.  The routes have been identified for many drugs, but testing for our ability to metabolize these drugs have not. Only scientific research is going to solve the problem. Go to GENELEX > review the video for use, then plug in your drugs. I had to find out on my own why my chemo almost killed me and the why the Aromatase inhibitors were crippling me . It was a drug interaction with norvasc with arimedex and cytoxan with norvasc. Had this drug interaction checker been used, my meds could have been altered. What sucks is the program was used by one of my providers. They either chose not to do a check or chose not do do a notification?  When my first and only chemo almost killed me -------You don't know why_----no more chemo---will my life be shortened by their error---doesn't that suck. I found GENELEX in Feb 2010 and then found out why cytoxan and arimidex were causing so much harm. 

This is supposed to be a fun site , but apparently we have been attacked.

This is my philosophy on the history of how we got here-----Had people not developed ways to manage illness, we as a species would not have survived. So, for centuries cures were handed down.  What we know is that early man learned about what was good herbals by watching animals. What happened after that  some is known. Much was handed down through centuries. Nostradamus's success in several places was based on rose hips which is high in vitamin -c . Then we come into the last few centuries and all that was known started to get screwed up by a fight between the old and the new. In our time , it is orhtodox vs alternative. Orthodox  is the new. Alternative is the old or whatever.  Please, remember we got here. It was by observation of what worked and didn't work. It was not by chance. There were many healers along the way. What changed in this last century was how our foods were processed and how medical care was given. We have some conclusions on what was changed, actually to numerous to mention here.

What is regretful, is it will be figured out in the next hundred years, to late for us ,and what of our children and grand children

Uhmmmmm so much seriousness for a nonsense place hmmm

orthodox with alternative  that has gone through NIH complematary medicine scrutiney

Puff  puff  pas and seeing the white rabbit  

SandyAust

Does anyone have anymore funny chicken pictures?

MaiTai

Nanay

I have been enjoying this thread without writing until now. It is important to have a place were you can vent. love the humor here.

I really think from experience that you are not in a place to enjoy a thread like this NOW.

You are in survival mode for your mother. I think most of us have been there.

But after the fight has been fought, and what ever fight you choose, you need to get beyond it.

You need to learn to live with the trauma, the fear and sometimes the depression.

Laughter and humor are a sign of sanity, strength and one of the best ways to cope with the trauma and fear.

If you are still NOT there, don't come in here.

And trying very hard to not sound insensitive, I know you are afraid for your mother and that you care, but you are not the one who is sick.

Most of US here are, or were sick and they need to vent. This is something you can't understand and hopefully you never will.

sas-schatzi

MaiTai---you got that one right unless you have the word cancer applied to you . You have no right to make any comment about anything. Period blunt. OH MY. nanay and any of your friends go away -----you are persona non grata

If you interfere with us again we will go to the moderators and have you censored

Ombudsman  Of the Master Mother Cluckers SAS

PS to mai tai i think you were trying to help so please no offense to you

MaiTai

sas-schatzi

Unfortunately as you can see from my signature, I have the word cancer attached...

I don't feel offended.

sas-schatzi

Mai tai -didn't catch that , but i did catch that you were trying to help, Nanay doesn't understand our side of it. We are trying to use words and pictures to amuse ourselves, during an insane part of our lives. You get it , i'm sorry she doesn't. Ask her to stay out of our lives. SAS

MaiTai

SAS 

I don't know Nanay.

I agree with you completely. I guess my post wasn't that clear.

Can I still blame chemobrain?

thegood5

thegood5

MaiTai~for all that we have been thru, you can blame chemo brain as much as you want! 

JanetinVirginia

I think Low & I need to come up with a threat level system for the hen house.  I'll be clucking about that.

thefuzzylemon

Oh yeah...Please do Janet!!  Could be just what we need to get the group back on track!!

JanetinVirginia

speaking of elevators - here's one for stupid people

Anonymous

Stalkers will be pecked to death!

Anonymous

Their carcasses will be canned and cooked!