I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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Suzie - loved the cartoon!

I have a problem with "hating," too.  I hate the things people sometimes do, but have a difficult time hating people.  Well, except for that Esk fellow running for state house representative in Oklahoma.  You know, the guy who wants to stone gay people for being gay?

This is from:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/06/11/okl...

"Given how savagely anti-gay the mainstream Oklahoma Republican party is, it’s no surprise that the state’s Tea Partiers are so rabidly hateful that they come across more as dark satire than as serious bigots. To wit: This week, an Oklahoma magazinediscovered that last summer, Tea Party state House candidate Scott Esk endorsed stoning gay people to death: “I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” he said in a Facebook post. Esk went on to add nuance to his position:

That [stoning gay people to death] goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.

When a Facebook user messaged Esk to clarify further, he responded:

I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it.

Understandably unnerved, the magazine called up Esk for clarification. Although Esk claimed he didn’t remember the comments, he fleshed out his views:

That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God. I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins.

Pressed one final time about his position on stoning gay human beings to death, Esk dug in his heels:

I know what was done in the Old Testament and what was done back then was what’s just. … And I do stand for Biblical morality."

How can you stand for biblical morality but cherry-pick your morals?  How can you claim to be a citizen of the US but want to violate US laws in order to uphold an ancient religious story?  (Sharia law, anyone?)  

I think I can hate this guy.  It hurts me, but I can do it.

208sandy

Just thrilled with the results of yesterday's election - our riding went Liberal for the first time in 70 YEARS!!!  Watch out Harper, first Quebec, now Ontario.......

djd

Interesting tidbit for our Canadian sisters...

I went to Las Vegas last weekend and eventually got tired of gambling and decided to go shopping at the Fashion Show Mall.  While walking through the mall, one of those guys manning a kiosk approached me and said, "Miss, you are Canadian?"  -- it was more of a statement than a question.  I mumbled, "er, no" and hustled on away from him before he started trying to sell me something.  It was funny, but I figured that was just his opening line to try and start a conversation so he could sell me his wares. 

Then I went to the makeup counter in Nordstrom and was chatting with the ladies behind the counter - one was a Brit and the other was American.  Next thing I know, the American says, "so, what part of Canada are you from?"  At this point, I thought I must be wearing a maple-leaf on my forehead or something!  I replied, "no, I am not from Canada, but what in the world made you assume that I was?"  The Brit replied, "because you are so nice, and our nicest customers are always from Canada!"

That still doesn't explain why the guy in the mall assumed I was Canadian, but I really got a kick out of it and thought of you all here!

Congrats on the favorable election results up there!

RetiredLibby

Kay, was just able to get to the PC to watch the video (much easier on the PC than on the iPad).  Hilarious!  I don't know what I liked better - the blank nodding or the old guy at the end.  Old guy, I think!  Thanks for posting!

L

kayfh

I really, really wish that it would be possible to point out the scabrous inconsistencies, sociopathic, and just plain stupid things some of our politicians say or do and laugh them out of office!  Life would be so much nicer (and easier on our physical if not psychological health) if laughter was a viable way forward.  

kayfh

Donna. We are not always nice.  Far from it.  But thanks for sharing your compliments.  They actually say a lot about how you engage the world. 

bluedahlia

E, some people are totally phuqued up!

IllinoisLady

and wishy-washy people like John McCain might know when to zip it up. 

Jackie

Bren-2007

Donna .. what a wonderful compliment for you and the Canadians!

hugs,

Bren

IllinoisLady

Bren-2007

Hi Guys,

I hope this link works.  It's hilarious and I have to hand it to Christie for being a good sport.  The end of the video cracked me up!

Chris Christie/Jimmy Fallon

IllinoisLady

Bren....that is 'super' funny.  I had just watched it a few minutes ago----wasn't sure I could link it on, so just forgot about it.  Christie is a good sport -- at least about the show.  

Jackie

Anonymous

funny one, bren, but I liked the Mom dancing one better - but then, I never was "objective."

Also laughing at the Tundra Tart's ex partner, trying to be simplistic with one of the most complex situations of our time.

Reading the HISTORY of the area we now call, Irag, Iran, Syria, Turkey is fascinating.

QuinnCat

My father was a full-blooded Canadian and I have to say he was kind of a nasty guy.  Very angry man - though generous and smart.  Impatient as hell.  My mother was sweet as could be and a Canadian, so go figure. 

Kay - thanks for the video.  Oh my, Australia has their own GW Bush.  And nice to know John Oliver has such a good show.  I'll have to watch.

Haven't watched Bren's video yet.

kad2kar

May I just pop a "HATE" thing in here?=====I have a VERY DEAR friend who hates n******s, except for the goodlooking and wealthy ones, the Jews same deal,Hispanpics and Asians,except for my wonderful ex DIL & now DIL.  But on the other hand she also doesnt know the difference between a crouch and a crotch. So sometimes people just say things to be saying something and it makes no sense, so when a friend says something off the wall we try to set them on a better path and sometimes it doesnt work.

  I would love to post pictures of my rocks in each of the 4 seasons, but 50ftx80ft of 1" rock looks the same in all seasons in AZ,just like our politicians.

IllinoisLady

Krugman on the
Surprising and Disturbing Lessons from Eric Cantor's Shocking Defeat   Saw Paul Krugman's name and decided to read this piece.  Very interesting. 

Jackie

suzieq60

Kay - there was no dig in the cartoon - I just liked it. I do think people that tweet are twits.

QuinnCat

Suzie - you need to stop lumping people!  I tweet on occasion.  I certainly use twitter to get news not reported anymore.  For instance, just this weekend I saw a lot of smoke from my house, so immediately I looked for tweets from CalFire.  Sure enough, found out where the fire was, size and if it was under control.

River_Rat

Kam, thanks for explaining how Twitter can be useful. I truly had no idea how such tiny little posts could be of value. Now I know.

suzieq60

Sorry Kam - I can see it would be useful, but from any tweets I've read, it just seems to be used to abuse people.

Anonymous

rr - tho I don't use it, remember the "revolution" tho failed in Egypt, was really Twitter led.  Many, many political activists have used it very effectively

QuinnCat

I view it like a big town hall meeting.  People everywhere can gather and give their opinion on a topic. (Hence hashtag Millfire  or #Millfire, though you have to find the hashtag that people create.  For a big story, they provide trending hashtag stories.  For the fire, I just did a search on "fire Mt Shasta Calfire" and found they were using #Millfire, so from then on, I did a search on Millfire to get new Tweets on the fire).  As I stated, people tweet from a scene of breaking news.  Some use it to advertise themselves (think people like Kim Kardashian) and/or products, but one doesn't have to follow those entities.  

Anonymous

Kam, that's what's called discernment, and I'd expect that attitude from YOU!  But, not all are able to be or do that.  Simplistic thinking is so much a part of the world today. FXnews capitalizes on it.

Speaking of interesting analysis:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/robert-fisk-the-old-partition-of-the-middle-east-is-dead-i-dread-to-think-what-will-follow-9536467.html

River_Rat

Sunflowers, yeah I remember Twitter being used in Egypt. I just didn't see a use for it in my life. But then again as far as social media I'm a bit of a dinosaur. I don't do any of them. 

bluedahlia

Any opinions on hemp oil?

pip57

Is it recommended for cancer or pain?  I don't know much about it.

bluedahlia

I read the fatty acids help with auto-immune diseases.  There are some testimonials about cancer but grain of salt reading.

Anonymous

rr - I don't use any of the "social media" either - love being a Luddite.  The narcissism of so much of it makes me gag.

BLUE - Dana Farber had a wonderful post ( I get their emails, free to anyone who wants them) on the value of Hemp seeds, Hemp powder instead of the soy powder stuff.  Will go try to find it for you. Great nutritional value - don't know about the oil.

eta:

http://www.dana-farber.org/Health-Library/Benefits-of-Omega-3.aspx

this will get you started, there's a specific piece about hemp, cuz I remember getting it, just can't find it now...

back to watching Decorah eagles ;-)

Bren-2007

 

QuinnCat

Blue - all I know about hemp is that it is the most perfectly balanced fat (proportion of Omega 3's to Omega 6's) in existence, if that was the only fat you ever ate.