I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

leggo

I don't see it myself....the disturbing part, I mean. Maybe I missed something.

Anonymous

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/116628108.html

Can you open this?  There are 3 different videos of the poor camel

leggo

I watched all three. Animals are used in movies/television all the time. The onus is on the handler for things to go as planned. Seems to me this is just a case of an incompetent handler....not disturbing persay. Camel got his leg stuck, firefighters came to help, happy ending. When I think "disturbing", I lean more towards dog/cock/bull fighting, abuse and neglect and things more along those lines.

bluedahlia

I must admit, I felt sorry for the camel.  Thankfully it wasn't harmed.  Sometimes, actually most times, I respect animals more than anything else.

Alpal

Poor camel. I'm so sorry he fell and am relieved that he wasn't injured. Personally, I feel camels belong in the desert. And, maybe in an excellent zoo so we can learn about them.

I'm just wondering if anyone would be screaming abuse if a big corporation filmed a commercial using a camel. I doubt it.

Anonymous

The camel was terrified and was slipping all over the ice !!!

Too bad it wasn't FOX NEWS - they you so called animals lovers might feel some outrage

YEAH - if a BIG CORPORATION used a camel then I would not care.  Can't you come up with anything better than that?

Enjoyful

Cute possum avatar, Daisy.

Anonymous

"Catch and release" - perhaps PP should look into that.

Erica - No doubt, PETA will be all over the Camel story. btw...imo...Jon Stewart is about as funny as a case of Herpes.

Enjoyful

You don't find Jon Stewart amusing, Laura?  I'll admit he's nowhere hear as hilarious as Glenn Beck, but he's still funny. 

leggo

Anyhoo....dinner tonight.....paella and spinach salad with mandarins and balsamic vinegrette.

konakat

One thing Erica and I can always agree on is animal rights. 

And, cats rule, dogs drool! (that's me speaking, I know Erica's a doggie person, well, every animal person).

Enjoyful

Agreed, Elizabeth!  Except for my sister's dog, who doesn't drool.  Much.

208sandy

And my dog Munchkin who is perfect.

Sandy

Alpal

My dog never drools. It simply wouldn't be lady like, and she knows it.

1Athena1

It depends on the breed. I have seen some drool and I won't mention which breeds in case someone with that dog gets offended. Ok, boxers and bulldgos.

But labradors, German shepherds and dalmatians - all dogs in my house growing up - never drooled.

Cats think for themselves. Dogs think for themselves and for you!

I do like cats, though. My favorite cousin has four darlings and I have fallen in love with them all.

molly52

ananda8

The biggest threat to songbirds are the sky scrapers of large cities along the North American Flyway.  As the song birds migrate they see lighted office space and cannot see the glass.  They fly directly into the windows and either die of a broken neck or loose consciousness and die from the fall.

http://www.birdsandbuildings.org/faqs.html

Approximately one billion birds are killed every year in the United States, per experts like Muhlenberg College Professor Dan Klem who has done extensive analysis for three decades. Birds killed include healthy and sick, large and small, common and endangered.

How many of any given species are killed on a continent-wide basis is not known. However, we do have anecdotal reports that indicate how serious the problem can be. On one university campus, for example, the entire population of hummingbirds was killed. They did not die in vain, however: The event motivated the school to ensure that their buildings are now bird-friendly.

ificial lights are a very big problem. Birds are drawn to lights (like moths to a flame). Scientists can only speculate why but the fact is well-documented.

Birds fly into or around the lights incessantly until they fall, exhausted or near death, to the rooftop or ground. Janitors, as well as independent sightings, have verified that on some nights, especially in foggy, overcast conditions, thousands of birds may be mesmerized by the lights of a single building. Across an entire migration season, the death toll may be in the tens of thousands at some buildings.

Long-term scientific research at Chicago's McCormick Place convention center has proven that there is an 80% reduction in bird fatalities when the lights are turned out.

Both Chicago (http://cityofchicago.org/Environment/BirdMigration/) and Toronto (http://www.flap.org/) have successful "lights out" programs for the rooftops of downtown buildings. Project Safe Flight is now underway in New York City: http://www.nycas.org/ .

Lights in lower-level lobbies are also a big hazard: The light attracts the bird, which can't see the glass barrier in the way. Building owners are encouraged to adopt a policy of low-level lobby and atrium lighting throughout the night.

AnnNYC

Personally, I think the camel idea was really dumb, especially in the winter streets of Madison, and I really felt bad for the camel.

I didn't see this on the Daily Show last night -- maybe they scrapped it because it didn't work out?

The video was shot by a kid (young man) affiliated with Isthmus, an alternative paper that was quite leftist at its founding when I was in college in Madison (early 1970s).  The camel was helped up by firefighters protesting the Walker bill.  I don't think the protesters should be blamed for a dimwitted idea of someone at the Daily Show!

IronJawedBCAngel

Athena,

Are you going to see "The Last Lion"?  Saw a segment on the Today Show about it and it is probably going to be amazing, as long as you are prepared to see big cats act like big cats.  I hope those magnificent creatures can be saved.  

I've seen many a lab drool, especially when someone is eating and not sharing their food with them.  However, they are an adorable breed.

I like dogs and cats, for different reasons.  My little Booger cat took good care of me when I was going through radiation.  He would lay on the pillow beside me when I wasn't feeling well and pat my cheek with his paw.  I miss the little darling.  He died in October at the age of 18.  I will meet him again one day on the Rainbow Bridge, along with my other animal friends.

Marple

Hehehe, I wouldn't say cats rule but I must confess, my dogs drool.  Hehehe, and I think I do too in my sleep.

Edit to add.  AND I rule. 

Another edit to add~ not only do I eat brussel sprouts.  I grow 'em.

1Athena1

I have not heard of that -- is it a documentary? I thought I had seen them all at this point.

floralgal

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crazy4carrots

Dogs have masters, cats have slaves.  Old, but true!

Alpal

AnnNYC - I agree that the camel was a dumb idea. Where would one rent a camel in Madison? Maybe Soros bussed it in.

AnnNYC

Erica, I have to thank you for the link to the camel video.  It has introduced me to the writing of Jack Craver (the 22-year-old who shot the video, a/k/a "The Sconz"), and I'm really enjoying it.

http://thesconz.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/scott-walker-is-not-a-fiscal-conservative/#comments

http://thesconz.wordpress.com/tag/scott-walker/

IronJawedBCAngel

Athena,

I believe it will play in select theatres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoAcNdeEf_Y 

I'm trying to decide if it will be too graphic for my grandson, however, considering the awful movies his father allows him to see, I would rather he see the beauty and cruelty of nature.  It was a really interesting interview on "The Today Show", and I expect the movie will be great.

Anonymous

Dogs have masters, cats have slaves, Camels have Jon Stweart. Gee...animal cruelty is really funny - Jon Stewart's hero is probably Mike Vick.

1Athena1

Thank you, Ironjawed (I love your name, BTW - although I wonder sometimes if you took Zometa and got osteonecrosis of the jaw -lol!)

Alpal, don't get me started - just kidding!!

IronJawedBCAngel

Alice Paul is a hero of mine.  We need more like her to lead the way on health care.

floralgal

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