I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited May 2013

    Thanks for the article, Sunny.  It's obvious to me that our President gathers data, thinks, and analyzes before taking action.  I expect nothing less from the person with his hand on the button.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited May 2013

    Oh wow, just noticed that I'm starting to break out in the dreaded pustulant acne Tykerb rash.  Awesome!!!!

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited May 2013

    Great article, Sunflowers.  And that one led me to this brilliant one:

    "Stop Calling Obama Aloof!"

    "... I mean, how could a president not know the level of scrutiny the Cincinnati branch of the IRS was applying to conservative social welfare organizations that sought tax-exempt status under Section 501c(4) of the Internal Revenue Act? How detached. How arrogant. How disengaged.

    Believe me, George Washington knew exactly what the Tea Party was doing back in his day, and even though Cincinnati was just being settled as Washington became president, you can be sure the Father of Our Country knew what the Cincinnati branch of the IRS was up to...."

    ".....Of course, the Gipper was also so deeply and properly engaged that he had to say he did not recall no fewer than 124 times in eight hours of testimony on the Iran-Contra affair...."

    "...And, of course, when the Bush administration subpoenaed the phone records of journalists, that was a very different thing. I mean, Bush could not have been disengaged from the press. He gave reporters nicknames, for goodness sake. Anyone who calls two different reporters “Stretch” is clearly deeply engaged in the cause of press freedom...."

    "....Benghazi. Four American patriots were murdered. Reagan would have never allowed that. Sure, under Reagan, 241 heroic Marines were killed by a terrorist suicide bomb in Beirut. But that’s not because Reagan was asleep at the switch. Under the rules of engagement, that Marine barracks was heavily fortified—by Marines who were prohibited from carrying loaded weapons...."

    "....If only Obama had played golf with the GOP more, or had them over for more dinners—maybe read them a story like The Pet Goat. Then they would have approved Obama’s full funding for embassy security. So you see, it all comes down to President Obama’s aloofness.

    All sarcasm aside, I am furious and heartsick at the murders of brave Americans in Benghazi. I am appalled by the notion of groups being scrutinized by the IRS for their ideological views. I am deeply troubled when journalists are subpoenaed. These are, truthfully, important topics for legitimate, critical press and congressional scrutiny. But that scrutiny is shortchanged when, instead of digging into policy errors or personnel mistakes, Beltway bigshots make sweeping, stupid, personal attacks on President Obama. It’s not that our President is too arrogant. It’s that our debate is too ignorant."

    Full article:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/20/stop-calling-obama-aloof.html

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  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013

    A very intelligent man.  No wonder the right can't accept him, but then again, who am I to say.....I'm insane.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Loved that article Sun.....right on.  I'm sure I'll always have twice as many questions about how ANYONE before and during the 8 yrs. of the previous administration, could believe that they were "in the know" and out of harm's way.  I often think.....there is a U.S. left -- no thanks to those sometimes veeerrry long Republican years.  I have felt such security with this President and it continues on. 

    Often I am reminded of Clinton.....so much was thrown at him -- just like it has been with Pres. Obama and in the end nothing really sticks.  If enough people thought about it side by side, but too much danger for most. 

    Hard day yesterday, but not physically.  Sat outside on the deck last night in the twilight and it was really pleasant.  The bugs ( mosquitoes ) haven't started up too much yet and so it felt like the perfect ending to a sunny, summer day. 

    Jackie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    Blue - if you're using that "insane" meme, me thinks you've been wasting your precious time reading JUNK, JUNK, JUNK...or else, in the wrowng places Kiss remember Mr. Rogers, you are perfect, just the way you are...

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013
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    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited May 2013

    There's too much at stake in this country to waste time with petty political ventures and attacks.  And this is true on BOTH sides of the aisle.

    When will they start the business of governing?  

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited May 2013

    good question, E!!!

    We are supposed to hear today about the house.  It was weird, after searching for two months (or maybe it's three) for a house that was OK with us and would still give us options, we found two in one day.  We made an offer on the one that would take the least amount of work (we think) to get it to where we'd feel OK.  It's small, smaller even than we had planned (about a third the size of our last house).  But it's in a convenient location.  If we get it, that's OK - and if we don't - well that's going to be OK, too.  We put in a escalation clause up to the point that we felt it was worth to us.  If the seller doesn't select our offer, than we'll make an offer on the other house we saw (if it's still available) and go from there - it's small too!  It needs a lot more work, but is closer to a home that we'd probably be happy in for a long time.  But - it needs a lot more work (ergo a lot more money)....

    The first house (the one we put the offer on) would easily be re-sold for a profit with little monetary investment.  The second house is much more unique and would take someone who appreciates differences. 

    I'm of mixed feelings.  In some ways I truly hope they take our offer - in other ways not so much.  So, we'll see....

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited May 2013

    All digits crossed gumby that the house stuff all works out.  I do believe you will end up with the house meant for you ... even if it does take awhile to find it.

    E ... amen!  Government is not supposed to be a team sport where beating the other guy bloody is the most important thing.

    I read yesterday that Obama's approval rating has gone up 2% during all this scandal mucking.  The writer had an interesting theory ... that since the same thing was done to the Clintons, Americans have seen it before and are sick of it.  They believe that Clinton was a very good President, like and respect Hillary, and in hindsight see that it was unfair and destructive.  People do have a tendency to root for the underdog or victim of bullying so it's not unreasonable to expect that the venom being thrown out may boomerang back on the flingers. 

    Modem still working this morning ... yippee!  Still getting a new one today.  I'm on borrowed time with this one. 

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited May 2013

    GG...hope the house thing goes the way it is best for you.

    E...that is exciting that you are going to be a grandma!  

    Shhh...Blue really IS insane.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited May 2013

    Sure she is - just like the rest of us - but in a nice way!!!  Wink

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited May 2013

    Tomorrow is my last day of work.  I am so looking forward to the changes coming for us, but I will miss my job.  The people there are like family.  They have made a scrapbook for me with poems about my years there.  This weekend, a couple of the teenagers made me a big sign and covered it with chocolate.  (The chocolate is gone already)  

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited May 2013

    Congratulations on your retirement pip!!  You have a big move coming up so I'm guessing you will be very busy for awhile.  Or have you already moved?

     

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited May 2013

    Congratulations, Pip.  I hope you'll be really happy moving forward into the next phase of your life.  Most of the people I know who have retired miss work for a bit, but then find themselves so busy in doing things they enjoy that soon they are wrapped up in their new life.  Hopefully that will happen for you (and me, too, as I'll be retiring in 5 months and 12 days).  :)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    Happy, Happy, HAPPY DANCE for PipLaughing  HOW EXCITING.  New adventures - time to PLaughingLTongue OutAKissY- or have, what a good friend calls A SATURDAY LIFE.  It's so wonderful....you will LOVE LOVE LOVE it.

    Won't tell about Blue - promise...makes her "offishully" one of us...it's a "membership" requirement, that and Kindness, Empathy, Co-operation, Community, did I mention, Kindness....if that were really true, we wouldn't need as much broccoli Sealed

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited May 2013

    Congratulations, PiP! I will be joining the ranks next Friday! Bet you will be busy setting up your new household and adjusting to many new things in your new life!



    L

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited May 2013

    Thanks ladies. I am indeed very busy packing.  We take over the new house (with views of the lake across the road) on Friday.  We leave the farm at the end of June.  

    I am planning to just take the summer easy.  I will see how busy I am babysitting the 5 great nieces and nephews that will be nearby.  I may eventually go back to volunteer hospice work.  I figure that things will fall into place.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013

    Yep, I'm insane and love it!  And everyone around me loves it too!  Even a serious illness didn't scare my Ray away.....I guess I must have too much ummmm personality???? 

    I love all my insane friends on this thread.  We use logic and compassion and can see things for what they really are!

    Spent a wonderful day with my grandchildren.  Made popcorn and danced to MJ with George, who didn't want me to leave.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013

    Congrats Pip.  Fingers crossed for GG!

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited May 2013

    well - just got word that our offer was accepted - now for the inspection(s) and disclosure statements and etc....  mixed feelings, I must admit.  (Yes, I'm weird....) Laughing

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013

    YAY!

    A rose for E!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited May 2013

    GG - I think this is your pattern with change...as I recall, you were nervous about selling your last house.  It will be so nice for you to have a place you can call yours - I hope it all goes well.

    Another retiree in our midst?  Congrats Pip.  Just walked with a former coworker who retired after me.  We both agreed we couldn't be happier and we both loved our jobs!!  What does that tell you.  Freedom rings!  This morning a friend told me about a possible parttime job for a non-profit, needing my expertise and I just have very little desire to go back to work, atleast at this moment.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013

    Ray Manzarek, Founding Member of The Doors, Passes Away at 74

    Ray Manzarek, keyboardist and founding member of The Doors, passed away today at 12:31PM PT at the RoMed Clinic in Rosenheim, Germany after a lengthy battle with bile duct cancer. He was 74. At the time of his passing, he was surrounded by his wife Dorothy Manzarek, and his brothers Rick and James Manczarek.

    Manzarek is best known for his work with The Doors who formed in 1965 when Manzarek had a chance encounter on Venice Beach with poet Jim Morrison. The Doors went on to become one of the most controversial rock acts of the 1960s, selling more than 100-million albums worldwide, and receiving 19 Gold, 14 Platinum and five multi-Platinum albums in the U.S. alone. "L.A.Woman," "Break On Through to the Other Side," "The End," "Hello, I Love You," and "Light My Fire" were just some of the band's iconic and ground-breaking songs. After Morrison's death in 1971, Manzarek went on to become a best-selling author, and a Grammy-nominated recording artist in his own right. In 2002, he revitalized his touring career with Doors' guitarist and long-time collaborator, Robby Krieger.

    "I was deeply saddened to hear about the passing of my friend and bandmate Ray Manzarek today," said Krieger. "I'm just glad to have been able to have played Doors songs with him for the last decade. Ray was a huge part of my life and I will always miss him."

    Manzarek is survived by his wife Dorothy, brothers Rick and James Manczarek, son Pablo Manzarek, Pablo's wife Sharmin and their three children Noah, Apollo and Camille. Funeral arrangements are pending. The family asks that their privacy be respected at this difficult time. In lieu of flowers, please make a memoriam donation in Ray Manzarek's name at www.standup2cancer.org
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