food log- let's get specific

Ulla

oh dear allysnow..u draw a smile on my face with ur nice comment..no dear i was not hungry..which is strange and not my normal..i think the tamox hitting me really,,i feel nausiated with stomach pain,,anyway it helps not to eat..

today was exactly like yday,,i just ate 2 peaches instead of the green apple,and thats it.

oh no i fotgot,,i ate some french fries today ,,lol

bye girls

paige-allyson

Ulla- sorry to here that it is tamox side effects and not self control! Hopefully this will get better for you as you get used to it.

Goodnight Ulla and Kim

paige-allyson

May 16 Thursday-

Breakfast- old fashioned oats, raisins, cranberries, almond milk, 1 c coffee w/ almond milk

Snack- 2 organic apples, 3 c green tea

Lunch- Amy's California burger, brown rice, vegetable barley soup/stew (homemade- usually I don't buy soups)

Snack- dark chocolate (small serving 90 calories worth)

Dinner- 1 c. gnocci, spinach, peas, sweet potato fries 1/2 c

Exercise- 30 min walk

mkl48

The below is a revison from Edge, for those on an AI, especially Aromasin and Femara. The inhibitors are in addition to no crucifors. I really do wonder if this has any validity. Beth   

Dear Betty:

Quick refresher: Not onion (or garlic), a potential CYP3A4 inhibitor, and celery, parsley and parsnips may also exert some CYP3A4 activity. But these should be fine:

Asparagus, carrots, cucumber, endive, fennel, Jerusalem artichoke, Japanese eggplant, jicama, lettuce, potatoes, all sea vegetables (hijiki, kumbu, wakame, etc.), spinach, all squashes, sweet potatoes and yams, Swiss chard, and tomatoes, among others.

Peppers are also not a problem but the capsicum component can aggravate hot flashes if that is relevant. Phytoestrogens as I have documented are not a clinically significant problem, and fruits other than grapefruit and seville oranges are also generally not an issue.

Ulla

i couldnt understand the above post!!!!!!!!is it saying no for all the foods mentioned??tomatoes also..??or is it yes??

anyway

today

breakfast    1cup coffee/milk

snack         1 green apple

lunch         1 sandwitch of CABANOSSI HOTDOG

snack        2 black plommons

supper       1 (100gm)sandwitch of 2eggs and half tomatoe all made in 2ts olive oil with a cup of black tea

walk for about 30 min.not so much activity this week

love u girls

KP1970

Breakfast: Larabar (cashew cookie); banana

Lunch: 4" Subway tuna on whole wheat bread w/lettuce/tomatoes; Sun chips (I refuse to give up some things and chips are one of them...in moderation, of course)!! ;-)

P.M. Snack: Handful almonds

Dinner: Pinto bean burrito (whole wheat tortilla/homemade); bunch red grapes

Dessert: Small bowl oatmeal w/raisins and wheat germ; orange; 4 dates

 

Exercise: 

paige-allyson

Friday, May 16

Breakfast- old fashioned oats, raisins, cranberries, almond milk, 1 c coffee

Snack- apple, raisins, and walnuts

Lunch- vegetable soup/stew with barley, 1 c. gnocci w/ peas and spinach, 100 cal. of dark chocolate

Snack- apple, 3 c green tea

Dinner- asparagus broiled with olive oil, 2 eggs, scallion, cooked with canola oil, brown rice

Exercise- 25 min run, 30 min lap swim

paige-allyson

Ulla- your confusion re: the dos and don'ts post is understandable. Beth (the person posting) and I have discussed the topic of certain foods that may interfere with aromatase inhibitors (AIs) due to the metabolic pathways affected by chemicals in the foods. You are on tamoxifen so you don't have to worry about this issue. It is good to be aware that certain antidepressant medications can negatively affect how much your body can put the tamox to good use.

Despite the occasional moment of weakness I think all of us (all 3!) are doing a great job with the healthy eating and exercise. I notice I do better at getting enough vegs if I make a soup. Also I overeat less when there is a soup around because I tend to eat the soup vs bad foods that might otherwise tempt me.

Ulla

hi girls ,,i hate myself today ,,i broke all the rules and my stomach feels like theres tons of rocks in it,,

DH invited me to have lunch in AFGHANI RESTAURANT,,

so breakfast was mt ordinary cup of coffee/milk

i had my morrnning snack in the school as 1 small sandwitch

lunch was a dizaster,,big white rice plate,10 bites of grilled read meat and chicken breasts something called TIKKA, there was salty yoghart as the drink and some white bread,,I TOLD U TODAY WAS A DIZASTER,,

then it seems i decided to ruind everything today so i snacked with another small sandwitch

and had supper with another small sandwitch ,,

GGGRRRRRRRR WAT HAVE I DONE TODAY,,am realy angry..

love u girles

KP1970

Breakfast: 6 dates (went to a health fair this morning and I had to fast; by the time we got home, it was 11:30)

Lunch: 1 cup low-fat cottage cheese with 3 large pear halves; 15 Kashi whole-grain crackers

P.M. Snack: 10 frozen cherries; 1 small piece watermelon; handful almonds

Dinner: Baked chicken nuggets; steamed broccoli; 1/2 sweet potato; banana

Dessert: Orange; one choc. chip cookie from Subway :-O

 

Exercise: Walked 30 minutes around neighborhood at a moderate pace.

Ulla, don't beat yourself up; we all have days like that!! I just had one LOL 

paige-allyson

Ulla- as Kim said, don't beat yourself up. We all have days like that and sometimes it's even nice to have a day like that and enjoy a good meal without fretting over it. The tikka sounds delicious.

Just enjoy the little break from being strict and get back on track tomorrow.

Tomorrow will be my day to have some things I don't usually eat, like ice cream cake, a FAVORITE junky food I almost never eat. My daughter is having a master's degree graduation picnic and that's the dessert she chose. Hopefully the morning workout will balance things out a bit.

KP1970

Congratulations to your daughter, Paige!

KP1970

Hey girls, just have to share...my husband and I went to a health fair this morning and I asked the nurse who measured our body fat (!) about the connection between sugar and cancer/cancer recurrence. She hadn't heard anything about it (causing a recurrence). I told her that I had (love saying HAD) breast cancer and that I am trying to eat very healthy now, She stuck out her hand as if to shake it and said "Well, sister..." It took me a minute to figure out that she too, is a survivor. She told me she had breast cancer **29 years ago**....positive lymph nodes, chemo, mastectomy, rads, the whole 9 yards. She looked to be in her late 60s, so she must have been fairly young at diagnosis. I became very emotional when she gave me a hug and whispered in my ear, "You are going to be okay. There are MANY of us survivors out there, and many of us did not have the wonderful treatments that you girls have today." She brightened my entire day and I wanted to share with you girls. This disease IS survivable!!!!!!!!!!!!  {{Hugs}}

paige-allyson

Kim- thank you. Also thanks for that wonderful "bedtime story" (I am running to bed as usual. Especially nice to hear around this 1 year anniversary period- had the first bad mammo on 5/8/07 and had the mastectomy and positive node discovery on 5/23/07 (I was on the fast track to treatment which was good). Just to share in a similar hopeful vein, my SIL had breast cancer over 10 years ago with either 17 or 18 nodes positive and has remained NED. It is nice that there are these unexpected connections that happen now and then with strangers who turn out to be sisters.

KP1970

How wonderful about your sister-in-law, Paige!! My mom's best friend had breast cancer 6 years ago and opted for no chemo (she had positive nodes). No chemo, no Tamoxifen (and she was ER +)...and she has been NED since her mastectomy! 

My own mom had breast cancer 22 years ago (a very early stage...0 or 1 I think)...but no chemo, rads, anything. She just got back from a cruise with friends and is going strong at 75 years old! (and I was tested for the gene since my mom had bc too...I was negative...guess it was just a fluke for both of us)!

paige-allyson

Kim-

What a weird coincidence. My mom had breast cancer 25 years ago and is 74. She had tubular carcinoma (wish I'd had that!) and had lumpectomy and was in a clinical trial of the radiation tx where they thread radioactive rods through the area and keep you isolated during the tx period (couple of days?). My breast cancer is I think totally unrelated to what she had, although it is tubulo-lobular which I hear has a slightly better prognosis than regular lobular.

Despite not enjoying the chemo,etc. (to put it mildly), I can't imagine not having had it and I definitely love the Femara and Lupron. Even with stage III breast cancer there is a 50% chance of disease free survival with surgery alone so half of all women not getting tx are going to be lucky. Me...I am obsessed with getting every percentage point advantage that I can, trying to get those stats in my favor. Even if it doesn't "work" , I will look and feel great trying .

KP1970

Paige,

I'm with you...I too am obsessed with getting every percentage point I can in my favor! I was diagnosed on 10/31/06, and they wanted to start chemo a few weeks later...I fought to have them start me the very NEXT DAY...I said "Hook me up to that IV NOW" (in a nice way, of course) ;-) There was never any question that I would do WHATEVER necessary to help ensure that I am here to raise my three girls. They started to go over the treatment options (chemo/no chemo, etc) and I said I didn't need to hear anymore...I wanted chemo and whatever else they needed to give me to make me well again!! I had 4 A/C and 4 Taxotere (with a mastectomy in between) and am now on Tamoxifen. I am praying that I can stay on some sort of estrogen-blocker med for the rest of my life -- I figure after 5 years on Tamoxifen, I can go to Arimidex and am hoping that in 10 years, they have more meds out there -- I'll keep going with them!!!

And wow, that is a coincidence about your mom!! Glad she too, is doing well!  

KP1970

Breakfast: 3/4 c. oatmeal w/2 tbsp. wheat germ, 1 tbsp. raisins, 1% milk; English muffin

A.M. Snack:  1 c. watermelon

Lunch: Two corn tortillas (cut into triangles and baked); 3/4 c. pinto/refried beans/salsa; 1/2 c. strawberries; iced tea

P.M. Snack: Handful almonds; small bunch red grapes

Dinner: Two hard-boiled eggs on top of one piece whole wheat toast; 10 frozen cherries

Dessert: Blueberry smoothie (frozen blueberries, plain yogurt, 1/2 c. orange juice)

Yikes, I didn't eat any veggies today!! AND I was bad after dinner...won't even say what I ate. Okay, I will. Two chocolate chip cookies AND an ice cream sandwich (((( I can't have this stuff in my house anymore...I have a sugar addiction and have to keep it AWAY!! I am so ashamed of myself..

paige-allyson

Kim- Your attitude about treatment is identical to mine. I've told people that if my oncologist said it's been discovered that there is benefit in another round of chemo I'd be there with the IV in my hand tomorrow (and I HATED chemo with all it's dragged out depressed baldness scariness etc etc). Anyhow...yesterday was a day off from careful eating for me (as planned). I can say in general what I ate but after breakfast the boundaries between meals and snacks are blurry.

Saturday, May 17th

Breakfast- old fashioned oats, raisins, almond milk, coffee w/organic l.f. milk

Other eating during the day- brie and crackers, spinach dip w/pumpernickel bread, 1 + c cantaloupe, Amy's California burger, potato salad, green salad w/ Amy's rasp. vinagrette, whole wheat Greek pasta salad (tomatoes, Greek olives, cuke, lemon, olive olive, oregano, basil etc), sliced turkey, light organic grape juice and seltzer (my fake wine at the party), huge serving of Friendly's ice cream cookie cake.

Exercise- swam laps 1/2 hr, 1/2 hr walk, played wiffle ball 1 hr.

Ulla- How are you doing? I hope you feel better about your lunch out after reading what I ate yesterday! LOL

paige-allyson

Oh- my husband is working on convincing me to go to Las Vegas with him next month- he has to go for work. The barrier is my severe fear of flying . I am considering going and am looking into how much antianxiety drug I can take without accidentally killing myself LOL. You live in Nevada don't you? Maybe you can convince me how great it is to go there and that will help. Ulla I would like to come to Sweden but I have some serious work to do on myself before I am ready for that trip!

Ulla

hi girls

yday was another dizasterose food day,,DH made us grilled veal steak with grilled tomatoes and onion ,,as usaual the bread was all white ,,ggrrrrrr..he refuse to eat alone and i cant let him down,,but he promised me that he will not do that again,,he suggested that we can have free food just in weekends as we spend the time togeather and there is no problem to enjoy wat we like once aweek ..i think i agreed on one condition which is to double or walking time in weekends and he agreed ..so we were walking yday and today like a crazy..

now today 18 May

breakfast     1 green apple

lunch           salad+lasagni(whole wheat with lil red minced meat and so many types of vegies)i didnt eat much may be just 100gm+cup of black tea

snack  1orange

supper another 100gm lasagni(may be not i didnt eat yet ,,just guessing if i felt hungry)

girles i hate weekends..in working days i can go on with only 2 sandwitches and some fruites but weekends alwayes look so long ,,do u have the same problem??

allysnow i will wait u here in sweden one day,,its a charming country

KP1970

Ulla,

I hear you! I have a terrible time sticking to a healthy eating plan on the weekends! But I think that's excellent about doubling your walking time to "make up for it" ;-)

Paige,

I am not crazy about flying either, but I will tell you that Las Vegas is a lot of fun!!! I think you'd really enjoy it! (we live 5 hours from there but make the trip 2-3x/year). And I totally agree with you about going through the whole chemo process again if necessary...I was sick as a dog (a bald dog, LOL) but I would do it all over again in a heartbeat if it meant saving my life!

KP1970

Breakfast: Oatmeal w/ raisins and wheat germ/1% milk; orange

A.M. Snack: Larabar

Lunch: Subway 4" turkey and swiss cheese (w/mustard) on whole wheat roll; baked Lays; apples

P.M. Snack: (1) Hershey's dark choc. kiss

Dinner: 2 slices veggie pizza (w/extra tomatoes)!

Dessert: ---

 

Exercise: House hunting, walking around neighborhoods/lots of homes ;-)

I was out of town, looking for a new house for us (we are moving in early summer)...so lots of eating out unfortunately, but I tried to make healthy choices! 

paige-allyson

Thanks for the encouragement. The thing that really interests me is The Valley of Fire State Park. I love staying in a nice hotel too- it's a fun change of place from our ultra rural lifestyle here. My husband is booking our tickets now. I'm going too stock up on good diversions to load onto my ipod.

Breakfast: 1 soft cooked egg, ww toast, 1 t butter, coffee

Lunch: 1/2 c potato salad, 1 1/2 c cantaloupe, vegetable barley soup, 100 cal. dk chocolate

Snack: popcorn, raisins and walnuts, 1 apple, 1 c. organic light grape juice, green tea x 2

Dinner: turkey burger w/grated cheddar and zucchini added, bun (white and potato flour), sliced tomato and red onion, catsup and mayo, steamed green and yellow squash

KP1970

Breakfast: 4 oz. blueberry/strawberry smoothie (frozen blueberries, strawberries, plain yogurt, OJ)

Lunch: 1/2 turkey/provolone cheese sandwich (whole wheat) w/mustard, spinach leaves and tomatoes; Tostitos 'organic' non-hydrogenated chips; apple; iced tea

P.M. Snack: 4 oz. blueberry smoothie; Kashi multi-grain crackers

Dinner: Bean and cheese quesadilla (pinto/refried beans on two corn tortillas); corn; salad; iced tea

Dessert: small bowl frozen cherries

 

Exercise: Leslie Sansone 2-mile walk DVD (30 min.)

KP1970

Paige,

How exciting, I hope you have a great time

So you live in an ultra-rural area too? I bet I have you beat. We have lived in a small mining town for the last 9 years (pop: 800), and we are 2 hours driving from a town of 40,000 (where we grocery shop) and 4 hours from the nearest city (Reno). I am from Reno and the bay area before that so I am a true "city girl". 9 years out here is more than enough, IMHO LOL! We are moving to a town right outside of Carson City and I can't wait...I am SO excited to get back to CIVILIZATION!! >;-)

Ulla

hi girls

monday 19may

breakfast mini sandwitch of 1 boiled egg+cup coffee/milk

snack ///

lunch 2 small sandwitches of chicken burger and vegt.

supper liver with onion and some potatis with 100gm whole bread+2 cups black tea

am sorry i had such supper as i am supposed to stay studying tonight..i hope i can make it and pass 2moro test..

love u girls

paige-allyson

Kim- You definitely have me beat in the ruralness competition. You must stock up on groceries and only go once a month or something. I am sure 9 years of that has been plenty. I love rural but it is nice to have city to go to as well.

Ulla- What kind of test? Hope the liver for supper helps you to do well !

Breakfast: Oatmeal, raisins, almond milk, coffee x 1 strong w organic milk

Lunch: turkey burger, bun, tsp. mayo, vegetable barley soup, 100 calories dk chocolate

Snack- apple, 1/4 cantaloupe, Lara bar, coffee x 1 w/organic milk

Dinner: turkey burger, whole grain bun, tomato, lg salad of dk greens and cucumber w/ Annie's light dressing

Exercise: 30 min walk, fast pace w/dogs

Ulla

dear allysnow,,its swedish language test,,am learnning swedish,,

the liver helped and i got 95/100 today,,

tuesday 20 May

breakfast  1cup coffee/milk+1 medium sized banana

snack        1green apple+1 orange

lunch         200gm salad(so many types of vegs)+

                 skinless/bone free/chicken breast 200gm+100gm potato+aspargus+1 big onion+100gm bread+1cup black tea

snack       2 peachs

KP1970

Breakfast: Handful almonds; banana

A.M. Snack: Apple

Lunch: 1/2 turkey and provolone sandwich on whole wheat w/mustard, spinach leaves and tomato; Sun chips; iced tea

P.M. Snack: Hard-boiled egg; 10 Kashi multi-grain crackers; small bowl frozen cherries; 2 Hershey's dark choc. kisses; 5 dates (not all eaten at once; throughout the afternoon) ;-)

Dinner: Whole-wheat spaghetti w/organic pasta sauce (pureed carrots and cannelini beans mixed in...have to get the veggies down the kids somehow!); peas; whole wheat bread (1 slice) w/Smart Balance marg.; ice water  -- "pigged out" on Kashi crackers while cooking dinner :-O (well, at least they are somewhat healthy w/no hydrogenated fats) :-O

Dessert: Ice cream sandwich :-O -- did pretty well until this afternoon. I think I ate lunch too early in the day...was hungry all afternoon and then it was all downhill from there LOL

 

Exercise: Leslie Sansone 4-mile DVD (55 min.)