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  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited March 2008

    (((Lisa))) - can you take paracetamol-based pain killers? I don't know anything much about drugs but paracetamol with added codeine is more gentle to the stomach. It does make you constipated though. I hate to think that your tummy might be bleeding. Do you think you should see a doctor?

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited March 2008

    I am not sure that it is Jane.  It just "tastes" like it. Not sure about taking the pain killers you mentioned. I still have some pain killers from my surgery I could take.  If this carries on into next week.  I will see a doctor.

    Mel...pm me your address...so I can mail you the Norde's book.

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008

    OH SUE! Peter Kay is soooo funny. I watched "biscuits" and "family weddings". That was great. Thanks so much for sharing him with us.

    Lisa ,gb , I never thought my "friend" would abandone me. I was really hurt. I talked to her when I was off on medical leave after my surgery. And asked her if she would come see me. Just to talk and laugh and take my mind off things. She said yes , she would come the next day. She never showed up , and about two months ago , she called me and left a message , saying , she just got a cell phone and  left her number  , so I called and it was just her voicemail , twice. I didn't really know what to say , so I just hung up. She hasn't called me since then. But I have some friends that have been with me through out my journey. And I trully thank God for them. With no family around , they sure were a blessing for me.

    Oh Lisa and Jane , I suffered from migraines in my life too. They are horrible. Can't sit , lay , or anything. I would just pace the floor until I would throw up. Then once I went to sleep , I would feel better , but exhausted. Take care Lisa.xxxx

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008

    Lisa , what meds have you been taking?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    Hi ladies,

    Im finally home from work :).....what a long day....It has stormed all day but did see a ray of sunshine on the drive home....

    I did a quick skim through on the posts and will go back to fully read them later this evening, but wanted to say Hi to everyone as it seems Karen and I are on a complete different time frame that all of you so we miss you more often than not here....

    Karen-you are correct, it is about 6 hrs from here to Seattle....I live about 20 miles north of Walla Walla in a little small podunk town that I grew up in and still love.

    Im sorry I didnt read more but do remember that several of our ladies are going on trips that sound wonderful!!!!!!

    Nancy-hope you are making progress with the insurance company, all that denial stuff is a bunch of crap!!!!!!!!! We pay our premiums and chances are will never use them in our lifetime so those companies are making money hand over fist and act like the ones of us that do have to use the insurance for larger medical expenses are taking it right out of their hands!!! CRAP!!! CRAP!!!! CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Im sorry your having such awful headaches Lisa.....Ive never had migranes but I hate regular headaches so definately know I would REALLY hate those!!!!! I believe you are also the woman with the BEAUTIFUL daughter...she looks like a barbie doll!!!!!!

    Ok, enough for now...I promise to read more in awhile and reply to each one of you but I need to get a bite to eat as I didnt have time for lunch today (like I couldnt stand to loose a few lbs!!!!) but my tummy is growling...

    See you all in a little bit....

    Jule

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2008

    You ladies are always so chatty while I'm on my way home from work and making dinner. We just finished mussels and linguine...I hope my appetite holds up through chemo. I can just see me now: don't feel like eating, so I don't feel like cooking, so my daughter makes peanut butter and jelly for everyone. LOL.

    I'm getting sympathetic pains. Everytime someone mentions a side effect on the March 2008 chemo thread, I feel it coming on, and I haven't even sarted the stupid chemo yet.

    Well, I've got to go do something stupendously normal. My daughter needs a ride to her boyfriend's house. Chauffeur Mommy. Carry on! 

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited March 2008
     

    Mel...all I have taken is ibuprofin.  But today and the other day, because it hurt so bad, I took Excedrin Migrain pills.  I don't like to take anything with asprin in it, because since I was in my 20's, it has bothered my stomach.  It is actually feeling better this evening, probably because of the Excedrin.

    Jule...would that be a dark haired barbie doll?? haha...she would get a kick out of that comment!  Thanks..she is very photogenic.

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008

    Hi Nancy! Yes , we are a chatty bunch! I think hearing se's and then feeling them , is a sure sign of fear. But you just never know , some women don't have any ses. Reading everyones ses' puts me in the middle. Mine were not as bad as some , but I did feel like a part of me was dying on chemo. Especially at the end of it. But I bounced back well. My main problem ,because I am taking tamoxifen , is hotflashes and the other is my reconstruction. I need to go back for stage two. My recon is bigger and I am suppose to get a nipple recon.

    We are all here for you when you do start you're chemo. We will help you through it any way we can.xxxx Mel

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008

    Lisa , you don't think it has anything to do with you're surgery do you? Thats what I was wondering. I think it is just a bug , when do you go for you're next appointment with your ps?

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited March 2008

    Just checking out now, beautiful ladies. I hope you all have some good moments over the weekend. My dh is arriving soon and I want to tidy up a bit before he gets here.

    Love and hugs to all of you

    Jane xxxx 

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008
    Jane , I hope you and dh have a great time together this weekend.  Love you , Melodyxxx
  • kimmie0371
    kimmie0371 Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2008

    I know that i am late in posting this to you but my mom was diagnosed at a very ealy age and then kept it to herself for a very long time until we all started asking her alot of questions becauseof the changes that we were noticing about her-her hair lose-the weight lose and all of hte meds that she was taking-I lost my mother to bc at the age of 51 and that was in 96 I am 36 years old and this is myse cond battle with it-it has spread to my chest wall and I am doing and going through some rapid chemo treatments that are making me so sick that I can barely get out of bed because if I do I feel like I am going to throw up all of the time-please be patient and come as often as you can to this site for the support that you need because we have all been through it or are going throug it now and we will support you in any way that we can.

    kimmie0371

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2008

    Have I told you, Lisa, that my daughter Portia is very involved in youth theater and that she wants to be an actress?  She's been acting since about 5th grade and LOVES it.  She's the type of kid who has tried everything from gymnastics to dance to karate, but never liked anything well enough to stick with it for more than a year.  Theater, however, is the exception.  She is very passionate about it.  The problem that I'm having with her is that she doesn't think anything she's learning in school is pertinent to her future, so she doesn't really try to do well.  It's beginning to kick her in the butt now though.  She really wants to apply to a performing arts high school in our area, but I really don't think her GPA is high enough.  I'm sure they'd take that into consideration as well as her actual acting ability.  She's kind of bummed, but I've tried to warn her about this.  She's planning to go live with her dad in LA after she graduates.  Her plan is to attend college in Southern California, but I'm afraid that she'll have problems getting accepted if she doesn't bring her grades up.  Also, she's going through a really awkward stage right now with the braces, the goofy haircut, and the ever-expanding budda belly.  She thinks she's just the ugliest thing on the face of the earth.  Aaahhhh, the joys of motherhood!

    I sure hope you start feeling better soon, sweetie! 

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • kimmie0371
    kimmie0371 Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2008

    Honey girl-I lost my best friend of 15 years when I divorced my last husband and married the love of my life not soon after the divorce-some true friend -i knw how you feel -but always remember that you have all of us here on this site and that we will never leave you in time of need or any other time for that fact-i married the man that i have been in love with since i was 16 years old finally and our oldest daughter is now 18 and she does not completely understand why he stayed away for so long but that is another story in itself but we will leave that for another day and anoher conversation-but always know that you have real friends here that you can talk to at anytime of the day or whenever you are feeling like you need too dont ever forget that. They are always telling me to try and stay positive and its hard too sometimes since I have a negative attitude about this whole entire bc thing right now but trust in us and this site and you will make it just fine and be alright.

    kimmie0371

  • kimmie0371
    kimmie0371 Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2008

    Honey girl-I lost my best friend of 15 years when I divorced my last husband and married the love of my life not soon after the divorce-some true friend -i knw how you feel -but always remember that you have all of us here on this site and that we will never leave you in time of need or any other time for that fact-i married the man that i have been in love with since i was 16 years old finally and our oldest daughter is now 18 and she does not completely understand why he stayed away for so long but that is another story in itself but we will leave that for another day and anoher conversation-but always know that you have real friends here that you can talk to at anytime of the day or whenever you are feeling like you need too dont ever forget that. They are always telling me to try and stay positive and its hard too sometimes since I have a negative attitude about this whole entire bc thing right now but trust in us and this site and you will make it just fine and be alright.

    kimmie0371

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2008

    Bless your heart, Kimmie.  I'm so sorry that you're having to go through this a second time.  I'm also sorry that you lost your mom at such a young age.  I really hate this disease!!

    Take good care of yourself and post again to let us know how you're doing.  I hope the chemo does its job and kicks bootface (that's what we call cancer here) to the curb!!!

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2008

    Mel, I don't understand about that "so-called" friend of yours either.  You said that she lost her mom to bootface?  Do you think that your battle with it has brought back bad memories for her?  I know that my ex didn't feel comfortable talking to me for several months after he heard of my diagnosis.  He lost his girlfriend to cancer several years ago.  She was the first girl he dated after we split.  He would have married her if she hadn't gotten ill.  She lived with him throughout her two year battle (I'm not sure what type of cancer she had, exactly--it was a really rare form).  He was with her through it all and was at her side when she passed away.  It was really hard on him.  Maybe it just makes your friend too sad to be around you.  Just a thought.  It's kind of crappy that she won't at least tell you what the problem is.  I don't get people sometimes.

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited March 2008

    Mel, I don't think it has anything to do with the surgery.  But not sure. I see the ps next Thursday.

    Sorry Kimmie for all that you are going through. It's difficult, to say the least, but the support here is great!

    Karen, No..you never told me that about Portia.  Boy can I relate to what you are talking about.  Olivia used to be in plays in Junior HS, and some community, but now she is not that crazy about stage work, and she doesn't really like the director at the HS.  Olivia and Portia sound the same about the whole grade and schoolwork thing.  She said the same thing to me, she said, mom...I don't think college is for me.  What I want to do, I don't need to go to school for.  It worries me, because I want her to have something to fall back on.  I had to crack the whip this last month, because as a Junior in HS, she has to have good grades, to get accepted into college.  Colleges are much more choosier than they used to be.  Olivia wants to go to LA after graduation too! 

    What is a mother to do??  Tell Portia, it's just a stage.  The pic I saw of her...I thought she was very beautiful. 

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008

    Karen , hugs to you and you're daughter Portia. Its such an awkward stage and such an emotional one. I hope Portia believes in her dreams and she can go after them. I am all for kids going after there dreams or passions. Even if they don't make it. Some don't. But as long as they try. That way they don't do the "what if ,  or wonder what would happen thing". Portia is in my prayers.xxxx

    Hi Kimmie. It must be so hard to be going through this again. Hugs to you sweetie. Hope the chemo is kicking some bootface A$$! And thank you for you're kind words to me. My sisters here have and still , help me so much. I am so grateful. Although one friend has left me , I have gained so many beautiful friends here. xxxx

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited March 2008

    Mel...I mapquested it...you are only 1 hour and 21 minutes from me!! It's actually a very easy drive.  We can find a place in between...and each drive about 45 min.!!

    Can't wait for Spring!!!  I get to meet Mel!!Laughing

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited March 2008
      sweet dreams sisters ...I am  I   you all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited March 2008

    Good night my dear sweet Sue!! Sweet dreams to you...get some much needed rest!  I love you too!! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited March 2008

    Mel...I found a halfway point.  Beachwood Mall...I have never been, have you?  It's about 41 miles for me, and 39 for you.  Guess what...they have a Nordstroms's with a cafe!!! How ironic!  Let me know what you think. It looks huge..we can do alot of window shopping, and then enjoy a nice lunch at Nordie's..at noon!  It's an idea.

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2008

    That would be so cool for you guys to meet at Nordies for lunch at noon! 

    Thanks to you both for your encouraging words regarding Portia.  Sometimes I feel like breaking her neck, but it's just because I want her to be successful and happy. 

    Love and hugs,

    Karen

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    Hello again everyone!

    It's been four months since I posted. I've checked in from time to time to see how you are all doing. What a group! Because I felt it was time to let go of obsessing about cancer, I had stopped participating.

    Reading recent posts, though, have motivated a return. Has anyone saved my seat at the bar?

    This could turn into a book, so bear with me as I try to be brief...

    Events: 2007...partner's mother died (elderly, not unexpected, but still hard. I was quite close to her), my sister died (unexpected, only 65), partner's best friend died (prostate cancer, only 56), breast cancer and surgery for me, son who was only child for partner went off to college.

    Loss, loss, loss, loss...then my (female) life partner of 22 years ended our relationship. I left the end of January. She owns the house, so there was no choice.

    For 26 years I enjoyed a career as an RN. I became unable to continue as an autoimmune disorder became increasingly worse. I've been on disability since 1995, so my income is a pittance...too little to afford deposits and rent on a decent apartment. However, I do have four adult children who are rather amazing human beings. Their offers of a place to live were gratifying, but I have always maintained that I would live on the streets before moving in with one of them. There are certain things you just don't want to know about the lives of your children, and living with them means you get to know everything!  After searching for affordable housing and looking at the downside of doorway/park bench living in downtown Seattle, I relented.

    My eldest son and his wife are finishing building their dream home and invited me to join them. I have my own room with adjoining bathroom. While waiting for the house to become liveable, I stayed with some dear friends who wanted it to be permanent...how popular is that, eh?

    I'm now ensconced in my lovely room. Because of having a child so late in life, I didn't get to do much "grandmothering" to my older grandchildren. This  son has an 18-month-old boy, so I finally get to spoil a grandchild. He is a delight, but caring for him is overwhelming sometimes. Both parents work, so I am "it" a good deal of the time. 

    Here's why I'm back: Bootface is still firmly in the fabric of my life...the fear, the sensation of stiff, truly ugly scar tissue where living breasts once existed, waiting for mets that must surely be in my future, panicked about going through dying of my cancer...it just doesn't go away, does it?

    Enough of my story and on to why I just had to post:

    Karen and Lisa...about theater: My youngest son, the one at college in Walla Walla (Whitman) is also obsessed. He's been taking classes at Seattle Children's Theater since he was about 7. The past two summers he did an internship there. He's been in every musical at school and many plays at school and at Seattle Children's Theater. He loves it so much that he knows an education is critical. If he ends up with some crappy job with lousy wages, he won't be able to afford staying involved in theater. So, he worked hard in school to qualify for getting an education at a college with a good drama department. He's doing a double major in economics and theater. Tell those girls to hit the books!!! 

    Jule, my son is an avid flyfisher, naturalist, and photographer who is enjoying hopping on his bike and exploring the Walla Walla area. Any insider info I can pass on to him?

    Sue, it's good to know you haven't changed. I still love you, you know!

     

    Enough already. I'm trying to absorb everyone's stories and am totally confused about things like whether AE and UB are chemo drugs or people taking them, and if the yellow brick road goes through my neighborhood.

    Towhee (aka Judie) 

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2008

    Towhee!!  I was just about to sign off for the night, when I saw that you had posted here.  It's so good to hear from you again!  Wow!  Did you have a rough year, or what?  I'm so sorry for all your losses.  I hope things start to get better for you soon.  2008 just has to be a better year for us all!

    I have to get to bed--rads have me tired by the end of the day.  Please keep coming back and thanks for the input regarding the young ones with their passion for acting.  I'll share your post with my daughter.  I think she's beginning to see the light--she's just not quite there yet.

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2008

    Oh, and it's nice to know that there's another Washington State girl on this thread.  I didn't know you were from the Seattle area when you were posting here before. 

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008

    TOWHEESooo good to see you back here. I was just thinking of you the other day , and was wondering how you were doing. First , I'm so sorry for all your losses. Going through bc is hard enough , then people you love passing away , then a brake up , sheesh , you really have had your share of dissapointment and loss. Wishing lots of brighter tomorrows for you Towhee , (Judie).xxxx

    AE , is Auntie Em , aka , Valerie. UB is Uncle Bill , aka , Vals's husband. Uncle Bill has recently had a reocurrance of cancer. He is going through chemo right now. He has joined us on our adventure down the yellow brick road. We're all headed for the Emerald City. Valerie has become AE for Sue who has been on chemo since I think Oct. She is now on cmf and it has been a long haul for her. And Yes , the yellow brick road defenately goes through your neighborhood! So glad you joined us.xxx

    I'm glad you are able to live with you're son and be grandma to the little one. I know its hard to live with you're children , but what great memories you get to make with you're grandson. So glad you're back Judie.xxxx Melody

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited March 2008

    Judie , I almost forgot , there is room for all of us at the bar!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    TowHee (Judie),

    Its plainly obvious that you were one of the munchines following this yellow brick road!!!! Welcome back...Im a recent newbie to this thread and have enjoyed it tremendously.

    Does your son know about the Tucannon Lakes? It is in the foot hills of the Blue Mountains...there is a lake there committed to flyfishing for trout...our agency stocks it and patrol it pretty heavy so that fly fishermen get a fair shot at the lakes....Its probably a little further than he would want to ride on his bike...from Walla Walla it would be about 50 miles one way, but if he likes to camp it is a wonderful place for that as well...

    Do you ever travel over to Walla Walla to visit him? If you ever do please let me know, I would love to meet a sister!!!!!

    Will read and post more a little later as Im heading to Tri-Cities for a day of shopping with my mom...

    Hugs to all of you

    Jule

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