Starting Chemo May 2008

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  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited June 2008

    Have a treatment and I managed to get behind on 4 pages of reading LOL.

    I had my port checked. It turns out it is fine (per the doc). It is slightly tilted but that is from the location it is in I guess and it is deeper (cause I'm a bigger chick). He showed my hubs exactly how they should access it just in case. I'm praying that it goes much smoother this time around.

    Last treatment, besides the extra jabbing and going back the next day, went rather smooth. They changed out my nausea meds and I felt just fine. Of course tired a bit longer but I'll take that anyday over being sick to my stomach. I was surprised that my neulasta shot didn't give me any aches this time around like the first time. Coulda been I was too obsessed with my bald head to notice.

    Got my BRC results back finally... negative WOOHOOOOOOO!

    My poor bald head can't decide if it is cold or hot. Cold bare and hot under something. And having the breeze blow thru 1 inch of 5 strands of hair is an interesting sensation.

    Next treatment is this coming thursday the 26th...... it's #3 a/c out of 4 and then 4 dose dense treats of taxotene and herceptin.  Only 6 more total to go!

  • beachmom13
    beachmom13 Member Posts: 313
    edited June 2008

    Cristine - don't you worry, I will let it be known that I'm to be left alone.  I also have my might protectors - Cody and Jasmine.    Jasmine lays across the doorway and if anyone goes past stands up so they can't get in.  If someone gets past them, Cody, who has been keeping the foot of the bed warm, moves to the side of the bed and growls.  They both listen to me, but I'm not sure what they would do if I didn't say something to them.  Hummm - this might be a good  time to find out.  ----I'm so sorry he/she did whatever, I've never seen them act like that before Innocent  Wink

    I'm on for my last tc Wed. 6/25 and I am so looking forward to it.

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited June 2008

    Rock--- There is no escape from this island- we keep everyone who wants to stay!!!!

    Kristy 

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited June 2008

    We did this before, elsewhere on the boards--thanks to HeatherBLocklear, a.k.a. "Annie".  It's worth doing again.  Here are the lyrics from the last verse and refrain from "Hotel California":

    "Last thing I remember, I was
    Running for the door
    I had to find the passage back
    To the place I was before
    ’relax,’ said the night man,
    'We are programmed to receive.
    You can checkout any time you like,
    But you can never leave!' "

    So, no one is voted off...

    otter 

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited June 2008

    Ladies,

    Will miss you. Be back on Saturday, the 28th. Randie...thinking of you and your son....wanting all of you to have few or no se while I am gone. I will cover with lots of slathering sun tan lotion....

    Love you all. Take care. Be well. Ciao! 

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited June 2008

    Apparently I drank too much at the chemo bar . . . . the AC has not been kind to me.  Just starting feeling a bit better yesterday, catching up on the boards today.

    Linda:  I asked my onc about the Taxol / Taxotere.  She indicated that most programs are regional and generally follow the research success associated with local Universities (mid-west Mayo Clinic).  Not sure if that is any help, but I found it interesting. 

    My onc indicated that I am anemic and my hemglobin is still falling.  I just finished AC #3, anyone know of it levels out in the Taxol tx?  I do not want a blood transfusion. 

    RanD:  Prayers to your family.

    Rock:  Sorry about the news of the surgeries, glad to hear that your sister is coming to town.  Sisters are the best!

    Eddie:  LOL on the challenge to post the bald photo, I will try to do that later today. 

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited June 2008

    Rock - I don't necessarily mind keeping a weekly tracking thing, except that for the next two weeks, my computer access at home will be limited (case in point:  I'm writing this at work and probably violating some state law).  But I'm doin' it anyway!!  And you're not going anywhere now!

    Lee - Glad to hear about your protectors!  Smile

    Eddie - You'll be missed.

    Jeano77 - Sorry about the s/e's.  Yucko.  And I had heard about that "regional" thing also - it does explain some of the differences in our treatment protocols.

    Roxi - Good luck tomorrow!!

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited June 2008

    I feel like such a big baby but dangit, I dont' want to do this anymore.

    I know I've been lucky in the s/e arena, as I've really only experienced extreme exhaustion and the loss of tastebuds, but this exhaustion thing is just more than I can handle at times.  Last Wednesday was #4 of A/C (the last of that particular poison) and my halfway point chemowise.  It knocked me down from the day of tx to Sunday.  By Sunday I was in tears, so tired of being so tired.  Weird since tx #3 seemed to be so much easier.  Finally yesterday I got some things done, got out of the house, ran some errands then mid-day...ended up falling asleep for 1 1/2 hours.  My poor ds on his first real day of summer break...Mom sure is a blast Frown

    I keep hearing that Taxol is so much easier/better.  For some reason, I'm just not buying that and don't want to set myself up for major disappointment.  Onc says its a 3-3 1/2 hour infusion, so longer than the A/C.  I'm 8 days away and every time I think of sitting in that recliner I want to be ill.  Seeing an IV bag on tv makes me want to hurl (did I spell that right?).

    OK...I should stop whining and enjoy feeling better for the next 8 days.

    I hope everyone is doing well.  Our May group was quiet yesterday.  I hope that is a good sign.

    ~Adrienne

  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited June 2008

    Familyrocs, I feel pretty much the same way that you do, and I've only got 2 treatments under my belt.  The first was so different.  This time, the nausea has lasted longer and the fatigue has hit me hard--feel like I have been ran over by a truck.  Hopefully this will pass.  I have 4 more FEC to go, then 4 rounds of taxotere--they tell me that the Taxotere will be a breeze compared to the FEC.  I wonder.........Go tomorrow for blood work, hopefully the WBC's aren't as low as the last time. 

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited June 2008

    Adrienne,

     I have been really struggling this week with the same emotions- I just dont want to go on Thursday for chemo #4. I was basically excited going into round 3 thinking- I iwll be half way now, etc but going into round 4 is absolutely killing me emotionally. I really think I will be better going into #% with the knowledge there is only one more. I described it to my husband as being on a 1000 mile car trip and I just hit mile marker 501 - yeah Im halfway, but there is just so much left to get to the end!

    Kristy

  • angelsaboveus
    angelsaboveus Member Posts: 298
    edited June 2008

    It sounds like it has been a bit of a poopy week for everyone so far and we've only just begun. I just had tx X3 of FEC on thursday, i'm at the top of the hill and will take the Taxatore trip down the other side.  The last couple days the potty mouth and just plain feeling yukky has hit me more this time than usual...maybe the moons aren't aligned or we all brought a bug back from the rainforest or something ?.....Anyways feeling better today..started taking my neupogen on Sun & Mon and got a call from the onc that my counts are way high so can put off the shots until i get more bloodwork on Thurs...yay!

    I'm hoping to get out to the cabin tomorrow (the pic in my avitar is the view from our beach) and debug and take the top layer of dust off (gloves and face mask in hand...never know what might have taken up residence over the winter)   Usually i have this all done by May ..oh well better late than never!

    Chin up everybody, today is a new day !! Laughing..................Innocent

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited June 2008

    Having a fairly good day so far. Weather isn't too bad and have been able to keep the windows open.

    My next treatment is thursday and everytimg I think of it my stomach goes into knots and I can feel panic setting in. Man I hope they get this port figured out this time around. I can't do the multiple jabs too much more. My needle phobia is intense and getting worse.

    I'm on the count down as well.....2 down 6 to go.... man I can't wait till I am towards the last 4.

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited June 2008

    Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!!!!!! I am sorry that I have company in my misery, but I find it extremely reassuring that you guys are feeling this way, too and that my mood is not just a character flaw or moral failing. 

    It makes sense that we're hitting it around the same time, i.e., we ARE the May 2008 group! I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you guys for sharing, stereotypical and dorky as that sounds.

    I'm just tired of chemo, cancer, and it is too darned soon to be tired of it because I still have chemo and rads and more surgery to go.  But "wishing" thing were otherwise does not make it so.  I'm operating on the assumption that I WILL feel better (physically and emotionally). That this is just another transition and while it sucks right now, I will eventually figure out a way to adapt and cope. But right now . . . right now . . .

    Adrienne -- YES! to the recliner nausea.  Just the THOUGHT of (c-h-e-m-o) or (d-r-u-g-s) or even (f-o-o-d) makes my stomach churn.  And the 3-3.5 hour Taxol infusion.  I know. I just want someone to hit me in the side of the head with a shovel and knock me out.  Trying not to get into a thought pattern that will make chemo harder than it needs to be (is "anticipatory or preemptive nausea" recognized by the DSM IV?) but it is tough.  What DO we know about Taxol, anyway?  

     Adrienne, Kristy, Gracy, everyone ---  Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.  You have done wonders for my mood. 

    I am NOT a touchy feely person or a group hug kind of person. But while I am saying dorky things, let me add this:  If I could be anywhere right now, it would be standing in a circle with all of you whom I've gotten to know on these threads, holding hands, and just "being present" for a few minutes.

    At the end of the day, we have to go through chemo alone (i.e., we are the only ones getting that particular infusion). But we are also going through this alone, together. I am so grateful for that, and to each of you.

  • Becky--IL
    Becky--IL Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2008

    Having tx #3 tomorrow.  Like everyone else here I am feeling the same way thinking about going to another tx.  I get nauseas and dont sleep the couple nights before. Don't think I will ever look at an ice cube the same again.  Wish everyone having tx's this week luck with them.

  • LeggyJ
    LeggyJ Member Posts: 726
    edited June 2008

    I had the same discussion, with my surgeon, who did a sentinel node biopsy, during my first lumpectomy.  One node had a speck, of cancer, which the surgeon, thought it was probably got knocked in to node, during the trauma of the core tissue biopsy.  A second surgery, was needed to clean up the margins, and the surgeon said the oncologist would want to take out more nodes.

    My surgeon, didn't recommend taking more lymph nodes, and I trusted him.  He made me an appointment, with the oncologist, and I pleaded my case.  Thank god, we all decided, that with job, and activities, it was worth getting lymphoedema, for the rest of my life.  I have five more months of chemo. (every three weeks), followed my radiation, but I'm strong, and will get through this. 

    Right now, I'm still working, but it's one day at a time.

  • beachmom13
    beachmom13 Member Posts: 313
    edited June 2008

    Ok, apparently I'm out of it.  Where is our trip to this week?  I need to get my ticket for tomorrow.  It will be my last and I'm looking forward to knowing that this will be the last time I can't taste, have heartburn, etc.  But mostly, I'm looking forward to not worrying about getting sick and to the time when I can get back to eating whatever I want - spicy food just doesn't get along with me and I really miss it

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited June 2008

    beachmom/Lee, as well as everyone else:  there is light at the end of the tunnel.

     I can't address the issue of spicy food, but tonight we had fish (bass caught from our own pond) fried in my dh's special beer batter.  It's the first time I've eaten fried food since that mishap on my way home from my first TC infusion back in April.  That evening, we made the mistake of stopping at Chick-fil-A and I had half a chicken sandwich.  I developed the worst case of acid indigestion/gastric refux I've ever had in my life.  That was my introduction to chemo-associated indigestion, which I battled throughout chemo and only overcame with double-dose proton pump inhibitors.

    I can now say that my appetite, and my tolerance for "normal" food, seems to have returned.  I hope those 8 pounds don't return as well...

    I read somewhere that we shouldn't eat our favorite foods during chemo, because they won't be our favorite foods anymore.  Chemo will trigger an aversion to those foods.  That didn't happen to me.  In fact, during my worst days, I discovered some things that have now become "favorites"--like Fig Newtons, ginger ale, graham crackers, not-from-concentrate lemonade, ready-to-eat tapioca pudding, and lime-flavored popsicles. 

    otter 

  • robink
    robink Member Posts: 336
    edited June 2008

    Beachmom - I'm done next Thursday.  I hate that it's almost time but to know there won't be any more trips to the pool, bar, beach, exotic destination and be served up my toxic cocktail...woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So come on July 3rd.  Get r' done.

    I'll jump on board where ever you'd like to go.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited June 2008

    Is there room for one more on the crappy week express?  (A silly question - there's ALWAYS plenty of room on the crappy week express.)  Taxotere is kicking my butt.  The first couple of days were fine (Day 2, in fact, I felt giddy with normalcy), but days 5-6 have not been fun.  I went in to work, which was probably a mistake, and ended up coming home early with chills and body aches.  Turns out I was running a low-grade fever (100.9 at its highest).  I called the triage nurse at my center, we went through a checklist, and I escaped a trip to the emergency room, but did spend 12+ hours in bed.  I'm feeling much better today, but still plan to take it easy.

    Oh, and who's the joker who stuffed my mouth full of cotton?  And what do I need to do to get rid of it?

     If you're headed in a Taxotere direction, PLEASE don't let this freak you out.  We're all different and react differently.  And on the plus side, I've experienced ZERO nausea this round, and generally feel less out of it.  Next time, I'll be able to anticipate a little better, and adjust before I wind up flat on my back in bed.  It's just that after having a pretty easy time with AC, the last couple of days have come as an unwelcome surprise.

     (And wouldn't you know, it's absolutely beautiful here, which makes feeling crappy even worse.) 

    Linda

  • beachmom13
    beachmom13 Member Posts: 313
    edited June 2008

    Robin - How about Bali?  A friend just got back for a trip there and said it was beautiful.  Since it's our last trip, we might as well go all out.  I'll be leaving my home in a little over an hour.  I've felt like a kid at Christmas for the last couple of days.  (Sorry for those of you having crappy days, but your day will come some.)

    Lee

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited June 2008

    Wow.  Sorry to hear about the Taxotere. I wish I could at least offer you a cure for cottonmouth but I got NOTHING.  I'm probably going to be calling the nurse in a half hour or so for reasons I'll spare you here.  I feel fine but am thinking they weren't kidding about chemo's bloodthinning qualities. 

    For what it's worth, though, be-yoo-tee-ful photo.  (Such a cool angle-- I have spent 5 minutes with my nose 2" from my computer screen trying to get a better look!) 

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited June 2008

    Rock - I had to call the nurses yesterday because I had a weird blind spot all of a sudden appear while I was typing an email.  Then it progressed to this larger "shimmery" spot on my eye that blurred part of my vision.  I panicked, called my husband.  Honest to God I started to cry.  I figured I was about to have a stroke, the kids were still asleep and DAMN I'm so tired of being scared all of the time.  After about 35 minutes it disappeared.  Onc doc called me back later in the day and from what I said figured I had a floater (?) in my eye, unrelated to chemo. (somehow I don't buy anything new not being related to chemo).  Anyway, he told me that if it happens again to see an opthomologist.

    I hope what you are experiencing is minor and nothing to worry about, but definitely call the nurses.

    ~Adrienne (aka TheBigBaby)

  • beachmom13
    beachmom13 Member Posts: 313
    edited June 2008

    Adrienne - did you have a headache afterwards?  That the aura for my migranes.

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited June 2008

    Lee - YAY!  Its your last trip!  Time to celebrate!

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited June 2008

    Lee - not really.  Of course, I was aware of EVERYTHING after that episode.  Maybe a couple of twinges that indicated I might be getting a headache but nothing materialized and I think it may have been from stress and crying.

  • beachmom13
    beachmom13 Member Posts: 313
    edited June 2008

    familyroks - and we do have a celebration planned - 2 actually.  my kids and step d is here, so we're all having dinner tonight and come end of August/beginning of September, after rads we're celebrating all of the daily crap being over, dh's 60th birthday and my birthday.  All of which occur withing a 2 week period. - Maybe one really long celebration!

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited June 2008

    Adrienne/NOTaBigBaby:  "Somehow I don't buy. . . ." Me NEITHER.  It's your vision!  It's frightening! My eyes have been burning a lot. I'm going to experiment with restricting my time on the computer and see if that helps.  I'm wondering if it makes sense to go to an ophtalmologist anyway, just for a checkup, reassurance, and maybe some good advice.

    It's not the same, but I made an appointment to see "my" podiatrist (I first saw him after I dropped a television on my toe, followed by a couch). I want to see what he recommends in terms of preventing/ameliorating peripheral neuropathy. I felt like my docs and nurses are a little too "Why don't we wait and see what develops?" given that I'm already having symptoms and I haven't even started the Taxol yet.

    I gave the podiatrist's scheduler the heads up with the fact that I'm on chemo, concerned about neurop., etc. in hopes that he'll do a bit of research before I show up tomorrow.  

    Lee -- Bali it is! Woo-hoo!! Cele-BRAY-shun...

     

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited June 2008

    Rock - are your eyes sensitive to light this morning?  I'm an expert at the scratched cornea thing (I do it at least twice a year...seriously) and burning/light sensitive eyes are the first indicator for me.  I ask because after each chemo treatment my eyes get superduper dry which could potentially leave them susceptible to scratching.  I have gotten in the habit of putting wetting drops in my eyes before I go to bed and the first thing when I get up (for the first week following tx) .   At times like this don't you wish these web pages weren't so bright?

    ~Adrienne

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited June 2008

    I get TCH at my treatments and I have noticed that I have several days of foggy vision- I get treatment on Thursday and it clears up by late Sunday usually. I have been told it is probably the taxotere so Taxol might be causing a similar se.

    Bali sounds good for this week- we can celebrate the end of some ladies' trips and I will celebrate being firmly on the downward slope of mine. I go for blood work and to see the doc (a substitute since my onc is on vacation this week) in about 30 minutes - hopefully getting good blood numbers will psyche me up for Bali tomorrow.

    Kristy

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited June 2008

    Adrienne -- excellent idea.  My eyes have always been sensitive to light and I haven't been as zealous about the eyedrops as I have about the mouth rinse.  I think you're on to something. Thank You.

    Bali Ha'i....

    Most people live on a lonely island,
    Lost in the middle of a foggy sea.
    Most people long for another island,
    One where they know they will like to be.

    Bali Ha'i may call you,
    Any night, any day,
    In your heart, you'll hear it call you:
    "Come away...Come away."

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