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  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited January 2008

    Hi Genesis,

    I finally found the right videos on google and got a little time last weekend to watch the first and part of the second "save your life" videos.  I've done a ton of research in the last couple of months, so most of what I've seen thus far is not a big surprise to me, but reinforces what I know deep down to be true. Now that chemo is done and my strength is really returning, I want to get myself as healthy as possible and prevent this thing from recurring. I'm hoping to find some time this weekend to watch the rest of the videos. Not always easy with a four-year-old at home who wants me to play trains with him every day!

    DeAnn 

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Dear DeAnn,

    You make me want to cry with JOY because you are soo on the right track.  Our body is truly capable of healing itself and God has provided the means to do so.  Your "deep down" is telling you right!!  Dr. Schulze is a great teacher and about as down to earth as you can get.  Our prayers are sooo with you.  Playing trains with your little one is very healing as well.  Have fun!!

    God bless,

    Genesis

  • lindaDK
    lindaDK Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2008

    I finished all traditional treatment last June, chemo, radiation, surgeries all done and soon afterwards went to a alternative care doctor.  I chose to hit this with everything, traditional and alternative. I have also done tons of research, and I've been on a herbal/supplement diet and exercize maintenance program for months and have never felt better in my life.  I truely believe that doing this has brought my body back to a healthy state and helped me recover completely from all the nasty side effects of chemo and radiation. 

    I have listened to most of Dr Schultz tapes, and what I have listened to so far is exactly what my alternative Dtr stresses.   I'm going to listen to his other tapes he has for herbal remedies to see if I can add anything else to my daily routine. 

    Genesis, after you finished his 30 day program (which sounds pretty intense by the way) are you now on a daily maintenance routine?  Can you tell me which of his tapes go into specific details on this?

  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2008

    Dear Genesis,

    I have been watching the video's.  Yesterday, my mother told me she thought the axillary tumor was shrinking.  Praise God!  For anyone interested.  Here is the link to the 3rd video in the series that talks extensively about BC.  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7001344401293143618

    Lisa

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Dear Linda,

    I am so happy to hear about the things you are doing following the traditional treatment.  Especially happy to hear you have been viewing Dr. Schulze's videos.  We like his program because it is not one dimensional and it addresses all the major organs of the body which makes far more sense.  Schulze would like you to do each of the following seasonally doing one each quarter. (Liver detox, bowel detox, kidney/bladder detox)  My Husband and I do follow this regimen.  He also would like you to remain vegan.  We do not adhere completely to that.  This is what I do on a daily basis.  I work out for 45 minutes, 35 minutes of that is rebounding and deep breathing.  After this I have my first juicing of the day.  I neti pot every morning and do dry body brushing before my shower.  In the shower I do hydrotherapy directed towards the breast and more body brushing with soap. After my shower while getting dressed and make-up, etc. (all natural!) I eat 1/4 cup of cottage cheese with 2 tbls. flaxseed oil.  Lunch consists of raw almond butter and fresh organic spinach on sprouted bread along with a another juice that also includes Dr. Schulze's Super Food Plus.  We do take Dr. Jordan Rubin's (Maker's Diet) Living Multi and Milk Thistle.  I drink alot of distilled water with cayenne and teas (green and chaga) throughout the day.  I eat another 1/4 cup of cottage cheese with flaxseed oil sometime in the afternoon......We mostly eat raw but do partake sometimes in cooked......Dinner is usually a big salad with more of Dr. Schulze's Super Food added.  We do carrot juice every night followed by 8 to 10 cloves of chopped garlic washed down by more distilled water.  I do Intestinal One by Schulze every night.  I also take AHCC and Beta Glucan.  We continue to do High Enemas on a regular basis.  On Saturday and Sunday mornings we lead off the day with either a liver flush drink or kidney/bladder flush followed by the specified tea.   That pretty much covers what I do.  Of course this can vary some but I am pretty regimented.  YES, the 30 Day IS intense and you need a faithful healing partner especially if you include the high enemas and the Cold Sheet treatment.  I am beyond blessed to have had my Husband as my partner.   We are Born Again Christians and our Faith has played intricately into every aspect of this healing journey.

    Please know that our prayers are with you.

    God bless,

    Genesis

    P.S.  I forgot to add that I have been taking Brevail since the end of May - 2007!

  • pgiglio
    pgiglio Member Posts: 49
    edited January 2008

    Hi Mr. and Mrs. genesis,

       Thank you for sharing about alternative med. When my sister was diagnosed with stage 4 bc, they gave her 3 months to live. She completely changed her lifestyle and went the alternative route. She made it 3 1/2 years feeling great. Sadly, she died after she was told she needed chemo and rads, and she finally gave in. Just wanted to tell you, that my hubby and I use Ahcc. He has Hairy Cell Luekemia and  I believe it has kept his counts from going extremely low. Every once in awhile he stops it to prove to himself if it is working. When he stops, his counts fall lower. I had a bi lat mast, and did Chemo. I was told I needed a Nuelasta shot. Stupid me, that didn't know any better, got the shot. The following chemo, they told me I needed another. After the first shot, I refused any more, because it made me feel like I was hit by a mack truck. They insisted I would end up in the hospital and possibly die to having "no immune system". I told them I didn't care, I would never get that shot again. I started AHCC and increased the dosage. My bloodwork was normal within days. The doctors couln't believe it. So needless to say, I am an advocate for the AHCC. It is a shame, that this whole cancer business is all about the money. Of course the first question they ask you when diagnosed is, "what insurance do you have"?

    Well I want to wish you continued good health and thanks for sharing. Peggy

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Dear Peggy,

    Thank you soo much for sharing with us.  We were sad to hear about your sister.  Would you share why your sister gave in to chemo and and rads if she was feeling great?  This is the whole point we have been trying to make over and over.  Unless you get to the route cause of the disease it is a fruitless endeavor whether modern or alternative medicine.  This is why a multi-dimensional healing is of utmost importance.  Nobody knows what actually triggers the disease so your approach must be to the total body - every organ, cell, blood, etc., etc..  I am concerned about these one dimensional healing methods - they just do not seem thorough  in my opinion.  It has been repeated on this board many times that there is no one single magic bullet.  I do not know if you are familiar with Dr. Richard Schulze but it would be worth your time to view his videos.  It would be great for you and your husband with your health issues.  AHCC is great but you can see by what I shared that there is much more that I have done and continue to do in my healing.

    We wholeheartedly agree with the cancer business and the $$$.  We are in a sad state of affairs! 

    Thank you for your well wishes for continued health.  We soo appreciate it.  Thank you, again, for sharing with us.

    God bless you,

    Genesis 

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    I hope all of you will take time to read this newsletter....Go to www.herbdoc.com - then click on Dr. Schulze's EDUCATIONAL PRODUCTS.  When you get there click on FREE Newsletters and go to September - 2007.  I would love to have some feedback!

    God bless,

    Genesis

  • CookieOkie
    CookieOkie Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2008

    I have to ask, if Richard Schulze, had this wonderful "miracle" treatment plan for breast cancer, cancer or whatever why is he profiting  from it instead of sharing it with thousands of people who die each year? Certainly, if indeed he has the "magic cure" then I'd think it is his moral responsibility to share this information with everyone and not be profiting on someone's unfortunate situation.

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    Dear Cookie,

    Where is your FREE clinic that you are receiving your treatment from? Certainly this is information you should be sharing with all of us.  It is clear that you have not done your homework on Dr. Richard Schulze and that you are just speaking off the top of your head.  As far as Schulze's moral obligation anyone can view his teaching material on line for FREE.  His videos will teach you how to make everything he sells.  EVERY step of his program is free for the viewing.  You don't have to spend a dime on Dr. Schulze's products.  Outside of his Superfood Plus you can grow or collect or buy from the grocery store or health food store everything that is needed.  If you wanted to spend the time you probably could put the Superfood together as well from information he has provided.  As far as him sharing this information with others - that is all he tries to do.  When you have a pharmaceutical industry worth billions try getting the word out against that and see where you get..perhaps jail as for Schulze and his many predecessors?  Please, be my guest, and gather all the dirt you can find on this individual.and please provide it to this board.  Dr. Schulze does NOT offer a "magic cure".  He DOES offer the NATURAL remedies God has provided for us.  God made our bodies capable of healing themselves IF you are doing the right things.  Cancer does play by the same biological rules as anything else biological despite what modern medicine would have us believe. 

    God bless,

    Genesis 

  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited February 2008

    Hi Genesis,

    I have watched almost all of the 12 save your life video's and some others also.  I have read lots of the newsletters and would like everyone to read this one: http://www.dr-schulze.com/nhp0104.asp?page=1

    This is the 2004 newsletter and has stories and testimonials like yours that shows that people that were told they had months to live, healed themselves naturally using his program.  These people look vibrant!  I have ordered the superfoods, and can't wait to add it to my juice.  I am so impressed with Dr. Schultze.  This man is a straight-shooter.  I love his direct style.  No candy-coating for this herbalist.  I'm really impressed with what he has to say in the 2008 newsletter for January.  The part about reality is deep.  It really makes you think.  There are so many things that I'm going to do better, he has inspired me with just a bit of this reading and watching.  Thankyou so much for bringing him to this board.  I hope others will get something out of his knowledge and possibly try his products, or make their own if they have the time and inclination.

    Blessings dear Genesis,

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    Dear Lisa,

    Again, THANK YOU!!!!!  It gets very discouraging trying to enlighten people who don't want to be enlightened with common sense, which seems to be the vast majority of people we encounter.  THANK YOU for taking the time to view and read Schulze's information.  Our goal has been to get people to do just what you have done and let them make up their own minds regarding Schulze's program.  We think they will come to the same conclusion  that you have and that we did those 10 months ago.  We soo appreciate his straight-shooting as well. 

    Thank you, again, Lisa.  All we can do is keep trying.  Like my Husband always says.."you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".

    God bless you,

    Genesis

    P.S.  We have done the SuperFood 2 times a day since dx.  What a blessing!!  (have to go - it is high enema party night which is what Dr. Schulze calls it!!)

  • IMThankfull
    IMThankfull Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2008

    I am sort of surpriased by these comments.  I was recently diagnosed breast cancer.  I am a traditional medecine sort of gal...or at least I have been.  But I have been looking into alternative methods and I am going with that.

    Some have asked why people with a "cure" don't just give it away.  I would ask, why don't pharmecutical companies just give away their treatments?  Certainly, the costs borne by the two are different, but I am sure there are costs involved nonetheless no matter how the information is shared.

    Lastly, I think the important question of WHY there is a dirth of clinical trials for these methods is important.  I read the following recently: http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69245.cfm.  One statement stood out:

    "Graviola has been shown to be effective against cancer in a test tube, but no studies have been run to determine if it would have a similar effect in humans."

    I don't care abot graviola and know nothing abot it.  However, my point is that if something has been found to be effective in a lab environent, wouldn't every doctor and researcher want to conduct further testing to see its effectiveness in humans?  WHY have no human trials been done?When the ones who are primarily responsible for R&D want to point to a lack of clinical trials as proposed "evidence" that alternatives don't work, it is the height of hypocrisy. 

    People havied died pursuing traditional methods.  People have died pursuing alternative methods.  Traditional methods offer no guarantees; nor do the alternatives.  There is no cure, only treatment approaches at this point.  Why is there such division abot the variety of approaches? 

    Doctors are a blessing.  They have devoted themselves to helping others and improving our quality of life.  I greatly appreciate the wonrderful, caring specialists who have been working with me trhough my diagnosis, surgery and now.  However, they are not God.  They do not have ALL the answers.  The medical field provides a benchmark, but they are not God.  I believe it is as faulty to believe that medical standard is the supreme as it is to believe that the alternative standard is the same.

    I am personally looking into alternative treatments.  That is my personal preference and not a reflection on any other treatments.  I am hoping that this forum could support and nurture both without condemnation from either side.

    Just the thoughts of a newbie.  Innocent

    Mia

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    Dear Mia,

    We are happy to have you on board.  I hope you will scroll up  and take the time to read some of the past comments on this "Natural Healing" thread.  Let us know what you think.  Do you have any particular alternative method that you are considering?

    Our prayers are with you.

    God bless,

    Genesis

  • IMThankfull
    IMThankfull Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2008

    Hi Genesis,

    I don't know.  I am VERY new to all of this.  :-)

    I have changed to a vegan-type diet and am taking some herbal supplements.  I have largely increased my intake of raw fruits and vegetables and am juicing a lot as well.

    I am looking for a physician that can guide/monitor me through this process.  I would like a doctor's reccomendation (beyond chemo and radiation) for a treatment approach based on lifestyle changes.

    I have contacted the Cancer Treatment Centers of America (I was just told about this on Tuesday) and am seeing if they can help.

    There is truly a wealth of information out there and lots of "claims" being made.  I don't want to base this very important decision on some unidentifiable testimonials or unverifiable assertions.  Neither do I want to self-medicate myself.  However, since beginning this journey last month, I have found literally 5 people I can reach out and touch who have sent cancer into remission and been cancer free for up to 12 years based on these types of changes.  Husbands and sisters of friends/acquaintances.  This has certainly piqued my interest...so I am investigating.

    I have also found out about a book "Beating Cancer with Nutrition" that I am going to try to purchase as well since that sounds like a good read.

    Any tips or advice is welcome.

    Thanks,

    Mia

  • LAphoenix
    LAphoenix Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2008

    Out of curiosity, I went to Mr. Schulze's website.  I was appalled by what I saw!  If that site doesn't scream huckster, I don't know what does.  After you navigate past the "warning" disclaimer page that he apparently was required to post to avoid prosecution, you discover that every page you click on is dominated by photos of Mr. Schulze and sales pitches.  On Sale Today!!  Limited Time Offer!!  Just the sort of thing you want to see when you're looking for treatment for a deadly disease, right??  And then he just casually mentions that his clinic was shut down by the authorities (no doubt, the same ones who framed O.J.).  At the very least, this guy needs to design a better website, 'cause it sure scared the piss out of me! 

    As a side note, there's a news posting on the bc.org home page today (Feb. 14) about breast cancer information on the Web, and which sites tend to be more accurate than others.      

  • Monika
    Monika Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2008

    Hello Genesis,

    I know you're suggesting that people view the videos. However, for people like me with dial-up, it's not so easy. Can't you give a quick synopsis of what the treatment entails like requested from another post? I lean strongly towards natural healing modalities but have decided at this juncture to incorporate both because of lack of knowledge about either...so, I'm covering all the bases. Having said that, there are so many options for the natural approaches that I'm feeling a little lost about what to choose. My naturopath has me on dozens of pills, tinctures, powders etc and that feels like it might be a burden on my liver -- the detox part is essential I'm sure. Is this technique like the Gerson Diet? There are dangers associated with too many enemas and sever detox approaches too. Is there any other links that don't involve videos that you can steer me towards? If I'm interested after that, I'll seek another computer to view the videos. By the way....ARE you gaining anything financial by promoting all this? You have a salesman type approach that makes me a little uneasy...! Is this a very expensive regimen to follow? Any leads would be great! thx Monica

  • LAphoenix
    LAphoenix Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2008

    Monica,

    You can go to Schulze's website without looking at any videos to get a feel for him.  Just google his name.  If you think he's legit based on what you see, I'm sure Genesis can supply you with the information you're seeking.       

  • LAphoenix
    LAphoenix Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2008

    Monica,

    Here's a link that might be helpful to you.  It's on the MD Anderson

    website.  They have a whole department dedicated to researching alternative medicines.  They conduct and report on hard research and don't have an agenda as far as promoting one kind of treatment or healing philosophy over another.  Some natural treatments work, or show promise, and some don't. 

    http://www.mdanderson.org/departments/CIMER/

    Best,

    Amy G.

  • mimi1030
    mimi1030 Member Posts: 700
    edited February 2008

    Hello,

    I just came across this post, so I am coming into this at a late stage.  I had a family member who was dx with a very curable breast cancer.  Being that she was a scientologist and they do not believe in traditional medicine she went with this approach you talk about.  She went to a world renowed doctor in holsitic medicine, she took what is what they told her to take, she went on special cruises to mexico to consult with fellow doctors on new alternatives for her breast cancer.  After 6 months she said she was feeling great, she blew off doctors in traditional medicine and continued with her treaments.

    Sadly, after a year of feeling great she began to feel pain, losing weight, eventually within 6 months she died.  Reports at her autopsy claimed that the cancer had been agressively fueled and had spread to virtually ever organ in her body.  So even after getting a year of feeling really good, she was quickly dying.  The herbs etc were found in large quantities in her liver, because the organ had gotten so choked with cancer that she became toxic from the accumulation of different holistic treatments.  She was 42 years old with 7 children.

    I am not saying that keeping healthy is wrong, of course we want to remian healthy.  But my question is if there was such a miracle plant to cure cancer, I think any pharmaceutical company would jump right on it and sell it at ridiculous prices because they know it would be a big seller.  Bottom line cancer will be in our world forever, even as you cure one and other case is found.  The air in which you breath is full of toxins capable of giving you cancer, do we stop breathing now.  You can't avoid bad things.

    On the question of God, I truly believe that God created people with talents in order to carry out his work here on earth.  If it were not for doctors we would never even know how the human body works.  Are we to believe that the talent of being a doctor was a waste of time on God's part.  Your Dr Schultze became a doctor because he must have initially believed in traditional medicine, but saw a way to make a lot of money by selling products as a doctor, its better marketing techniques when you want to sell something and claim it is the cure all. 

    My mother is Stage 4 mets to liver and bones.  Traditional medicine is irradicating her cancer at a fast rate, not many lesions left to go after being dx with widespread mets in Oct 07.  Everyone is entitled to do what they think is best for treatment, it is your choice however, for my mother I am not taking the risk for one second with something that shows no sound benefit.   My opinion is not to offend, but this is my experience with alternative medicine, I think these people are out to make a buck at the expense of those who are desperately seeking a solution to a life or death situation.

  • BlindedByScience
    BlindedByScience Member Posts: 314
    edited February 2008

    mimi1030, I think you raise some excellent points. Feeling good does not necessarily mean cancer is defeated. There is one thing, though, that I think is important to point out to anyone who is interested in Schulze's opinions on healing--please do not be mislead by the 'Dr.' title. He is not an MD (medical doctor) and did not go through the standard medical training. From his bio posted on the web, he has  PhDs in herbology & iridology:

    http://healingtools.tripod.com/biosch.html 

    Besides having a Doctorate in Herbology and a Doctorate in Natural Medicine, he also holds a degree in Herbal Pharmacy and three degrees in Iridology. He is certified in 8 Different Styles of Body Therapy and holds three Black Belts in the Martial Arts. 

  • IMThankfull
    IMThankfull Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2008

    I visited the Dr. Schulze website.  Boy, that IS actually one of the most salesy sites I have seen.  If I just looked at the pictures, I might think this was a car salesman.  LOL!

    I mean no disrespect, and my thoughts on the website certainly have no bearing on the approach he is recommending (which I have not evaluated), but I did think that was funny. That is certainly not a site that encourages me to buy anything he offers.

    I think something is worth nothing here.  From what I have seen in my "limited" research on alternatives, there does not seem to be a one-solution cure all - even in the natural realm.  There seem to be a variety of permanent lifestyle changes that people have made in successfully beating cancer naturally - at least from those that I have spoken with.

    One poster above noted, "But my question is if there was such a miracle plant to cure cancer, I think any pharmaceutical company would jump right on it and sell it at ridiculous prices because they know it would be a big seller."  I think this is a valid point and very worthy of consideration.  IF a cure (or even a more effective treatment) were found in a plant, how could a pharma company sell it at ridiculous prices when a "plant" can easily be grown or accessed by others?  How can they profit from a "plant" that they cannot patent?  Further, why would they spend lots of money on R&D for something that could not be profitable and allow them at least to recoup what they have invested in the research?

    My thoughts?  Pharma companies have a very real motive not to research the effectiveness of natural methods that would produce no profitability for them.  I don't think they are a sinister bunch; it is basic business principles.  No one would spend a lot of money and resources in a business venture that could not provide an ROI.

    I recently received the following response from a medical group in response to my inquiry about a treatment that does not include chemo or radiation, "Because our doctors are trained in the science of medicine, currently we can find no evidence that supports totally forgoing evaluation for "standard" cancer treatment."  I found this interesting on 2 levels.  1) They find "no evidence" because the people who finance the research have no financial motive to fund trials that would produce such evidence. However, even apart from these formal trials, there is much evidence and personal successes that warrant investigation.  2) The "science of medicine" did not begin in the 20th century.  For centuries indigenous people in various cultures around the world have understood the science of medicine as they used herbs and plants to provide healing remedies for all sorts of ailments.  That is where the "science" of medicine began.  It is a true misconception to think that the word "science" is mutually exclusive when speaking of natural healing treatments.

    Lastly, I am a Christian and know the power of God to heal.  I also firmly believe that God has bestowed doctors with knowledge and tools to treat disease and help make people well.  However, that does not mean that the traditional approach is the ONLY way God provides.  There is much that God has provided in nature for the healing of the nations.  As I told my oncologist, "I believe that God has gifted the medical establishment, but that does not mean that the traditional medical approach is the only approach God has made available for healing."

    In terms of the young lady who passed at the much too young age of 42, that is a true tragedy.  As a mom of 3, that just breaks my heart to think of the sorrow which must have befallen her family at that loss.  I likewise have a cousin who passed last summer from throat cancer at the young age of 36.  This was after years of battling cancer with traditional approaches (chemo, radiation, surgery, etc.) where the cancer would go into remission and then come back and spread later. 

    For me, I will follow a natural approach, but I will do that with medical supervision as well.  Don't throw out the baby with the bath water I say.  Wink   There is much value in the medical community being able to monitor you, perform lab work, simply notice any red flags that may indicate whether a treatment (ANY treatment) is working or not.  I would not recommend that anyone pursue a treatment devoid of that type of follow-up and guidance.

    Mia

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    Hi to everyone who has posted the last couple of days....

    Sorry it has taken me this long to get back to responding.

    First I would like to address Dr. Schulze's Web site....to be very honest, I don't care what his web site looks like because I am interested in the product and not how it is advertised.  Secondly, I do NOT get anything from promoting Schulze.  If I sound like a salesman it is only because my Husband and I are beyond thankful and excited for what the 30 Day Incurables program has been accomplishing and continues to accomplish as we proceed with my healing.  Dr. Schulze pulls out all the artillery!  His program is NOT one or two dimensional like so many of the other alternatives offered out there.  Something VERY important, as well, is the fact that Dr. Schulze does not do holistic.  He does NATURAL HEALING.  Do your homework and don't expect me to do it for you.  This is life or death we are talking about and you have to make the decision for yourself.  My main motive is to get people familiar with Dr. Schulze as an alternative option. 

    There is no doubt that Schulze has a huge ego.  Do you care what your surgeon's personilty is as long as he is a good surgeon?  Dr. Schulze IS humbled by God's creation of the human body and if one would take time to view his teaching videos they would understand this.  We watch very little T.V. but the small amount we do watch is filled with drug commercials so to say that Schulze's web site is over commercialized is really calling the kettle black!! 

    Regarding doctors, it doesn't matter how highly educated they are or how many degrees if they have forgotten the first day of med school where they learned that the body's first and foremost job is to survive and repair itself. (paraphrased from Schulze)  That is the way God made us and He did NOT wait until just a little over a 100 years ago to bless us with how to deal with disease.  A big factor in all of this is the $$$ and not the real healing.  Example:  "Here, take this pill for the rest of your life" instead of getting to the root cause of the problem. 

    To those of you who had  a friend or relative die from bc using alternative methods, I also had a friend back in Virginia who did all the traditional to fight her bc - and she died.  Are we suppose to draw the same conclusion you are inferring toward alternative and apply them to traditional??  From statistics you can multiply this one incident over 40,000 times each year with traditional.  No matter what direction you look to for answers ultimately there is no guarantee.  My Husband and I are born again Christians and we felt totally led to take the natural healing route.  For us this has been an amazing journey.

    God bless all of you,

    Genesis

  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited February 2008

    Hi Genesis,

    To answer your question, yes, I do care about the personality of my surgeon.  And, my gp and my onc, etc.  My doctors are competent, kind, and compassionate.  I don't need to deal with a doctor who has a huge ego in order to get excellent care.   

    I have to take issue with your comment about "calling the kettle black"  when some posters criticized Dr Schultz's commercialized site.  Unless the posters make or market pharmaceuticals, then I don't see how they aren't in a position to make such a comment.  

    You've said that you don't care that he has a huge ego, and aggressively promotes his products.  Some of us do and we're entitled to that opinion.  It doesn't make us stupid, or lazy.  We aren't waiting for you to do our "homework" for us and it's offensive to me for you to suggest it.  I personally don't believe that one person (Schultz) holds the one answer to curing disease, how my body is "supposed" to work, or what God had in mind for us. 

    As you've stated, "there are no guarantees."  We are all responsible for finding our own path through this journey and we're all doing the best we can.  To imply otherwise, isn't valid and especially isn't kind.  

    I sincerely wish you the best of luck on the path you've chosen.  

    Cynthia 

  • LAphoenix
    LAphoenix Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2008

    Genesis,

    In your original post, you asked women to check out Schulze, which is exactly what I and others did.  Some of us have expressed less-than-enthusiastic, skeptical responses.  We're just being honest about our impressions.  It's one thing to have blind faith when it comes to religion; when it comes to medicine, however, I think hard evidence is a moral, ethical imperative.  Schulze offers no hard evidence for his claims.  In fact, he demeans the very concept of fact-based research.  We expect evidence in traditional medicine, so why should there be a double-standard when it comes to "natural" medicine?      

    You seem offended that people would question Schulze, but look at the judgmental statement you made about the choice that I and many others on this board have made:  " . . . if you have already been treated by traditional medicine you can still pick up on this program and turn your life around and be freed from the hell of tradional medicine."

    Sorry but I don't feel that my life needs to be turned around, nor do I believe that traditional medicine is a hell I need to be freed from.  That's your opinion, expressed unequivocally and unapologetically.  You're certainly free to express that opinion and choose Schulze, just as I and others are free to choose traditional ways.  

    Like Cynthia, I truly wish you the best with your choice.      

    Amy

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    This message is just a test to see if it will reach the board.  Two of my messages have failed to go out to the board.  This is just a test!!

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    The reason I chose the natural healing was it made more sense to get as healthy as possible to fight this disease rather than compromising my health even more than having the disease and put my faith in chemistry (totally foreign to our bodies) to attain some form of wellness and yet never addressing the root cause.  It is clear that you have not done your research on Schulze or you would know that he is a world renowned, respected natural healer.  I would hope that I never said to check out Dr. Schulze without also saying to view ALL his Save Your Life videos and then you could make a credible opionion.  We agree regarding the lack of statisical studies on natural healing.  Until the agencies in power are willing to conduct analytical studies it will not happen.  They do a good job at keeping natural healing on the fringe by stating it doesn't work.  Where are their current studies to prove it?  Bottom line is it has alot to do with $$$.

    I wish all of you the best as well.  I have never quite understood why there is so much promotion of traditional and criticism of natural healing on an ALTERNATIVE site!!  I was quickly escorted off the tradional way back when when I spoke of alternatives!!  I would like to discuss Schulze rather than defend him with people who have actually taken the time to view his teaching videos.  Now that would be a dicussion! 

    God bless,

    Genesis

  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited February 2008

    Hi Genesis,

    I received Dr. Schultze's Superfood, and I love it!  The taste is superior to anything I've tried before, and I have more energy and my skin seems to be less dry.  I'm going to try the cleanses next.  My mom is holding her own, next Dr. Appt. is in a week.  Keep up the good defense of natural healing.

  • BlindedByScience
    BlindedByScience Member Posts: 314
    edited February 2008

    Hi, Genesis

    I think you should go ahead and discuss Schulze's ideas. However, I don't think you'll be able to do so without others making their own observations (both for & against specific items), though, as it seems apparent to me that this is a group of people who possess critical thinking skills and discussion is part of learning.

    For many of us, the mention of a particular idea will send us off to hunt for research results and then we can talk about the potential benefits or downsides.  

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2008

    Hi Lisa,

    Nice to have you back!!  Soo thankful that your Mom is holding her own.....Are you trying Schulze's Superfood with her??  So glad you like it - what a wonderful blessing to our bodies!!  Thanks for the encouragement!

    God bless you,

    Genesis

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