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  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited December 2007
    Here is your human trial study on flax http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/11/10/3828  This statement is taken from the study.  Conclusion: Dietary flaxseed has the potential to reduce tumorgrowth in patients with breast cancer.     If anyone would like study references on any natural or alternative substance, don't hesitate to mail me.  I have read hundreds. 
  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited December 2007

    Here is the most cutting edge website on alternative and over-the-counter drugs in treating cancer.  It is a scientific blog website and is very technical.  There is no hype here, only science.  www.groupekurosawa.com   

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Dear Lisa,

    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!  We know that we know that we KNOW what is taking place in my body because of doing the natural healing and there are no side effects connected with any of it....My husband and I will keep repeating how very thankful we are to have been led down this path.

    Let us all just keep learning as much as we can.

    Genesis

  • BlindedByScience
    BlindedByScience Member Posts: 314
    edited December 2007

    I couldn't get the link above to work, but I think this one will:

    http://www.grouppekurosawa.com/ 

  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited December 2007

    Thankyou BBS for the spelling correction in the website.  You are welcome Genesis.  My goal on this blog is to pass on information that is backed up by solid clinical evidence.  Lives are too precious and so is our time with our loved ones.  We must find answers NOW! 

  • badboob67
    badboob67 Member Posts: 2,780
    edited December 2007
     

    I am late to the party, but couldn't resist commenting.

    Genesis, it is apparent that you and your husband believe wholeheartedly in the choice you have made in the treatment of your stage IV cancer. In looking through your posts for "evidence" that this regimen has worked for you, you repeatedly mention the AMAS blood test and the  more traditional tumor marker tests. You state recently, "I am only being monitored by blood tests including tumor markers CA 27-29 and CA 15-3" and that you are awaiting results of your AMAS test.  You make no mention of a blood test to check your estradiol level which would confirm whether or not your chosen substitute for an aromatase inhibitor is working. You have not had scans since a PET scan in May identified your apparent bone-only mets.

    As someone who was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer from the start at age 38, I feel it my obligation to inform you that the blood tests you are relying on (CA 27-29 and CA 15-3) are not adequate indicators of your response to treatment. My levels on those tests have NEVER been outside the normal range--have instead been very low and well within "normal". The first test was taken BEFORE any surgery or treatment began. I had active cancer throughout much of my skeletal system and the tests were NORMAL. I have learned that tumor marker tests are not reliable for everyone and that studies suggest tumor markers not be the only factor considered when determining one's condition. Incidentally, my monthly CBC and CHEM 7 blood tests consistently return "normal" results even though I am NOT in remission and have so many lesions on my bones that the radiologist usually chooses to discuss which bones DON'T have cancer rather than listing the ones that DO.

    The AMAS blood test you refer to (Anti Malignin Antibody) is something I cannot find information about on "traditional" medicine sites. It sounds similar to the CTC circulating tumor cells test that has received much press as of late. There is not agreement whether or not the CTC test is useful and this is AFTER a number of trials . I found that the AMAS test seems to be touted as highly reliable on the alternative websites. Credentialed authors have a less favorable opinion. It is important to note that The American Cancer Society Website and MD Anderson Website do not even waste space discussing the test.

    Genesis, I would caution you that you need to have some kind of imaging test in order to evaluate your condition. I fear that your reliance on the tumor marker tests and the less proven AMAS test could cause you to miss progression of your disease.  

    I have not tried the program you are using and my only opinion of it is that a program believed to be a true cure since at least 1994 (as you stated the videos were made) would have drawn the attention of the traditional medical community. I do hope that you are, indeed, experiencing the miraculous results to which you attest. I also hope that you avail yourself of more traditional diagnostic tools to be SURE your chosen therapy is and continues to work. 

    edited to add: the patent holders of the AMAS test, ONCOLAB INC suggest that the AMAS test is not effective in advanced (such as stage IV) cancer. They say, "While the AMAS test is not generally useful in advanced cancer, its high sensitivity and specificity early in the disease allow it to be used to improve early detection of first occurrence and recurrence of the disease."  It would seem a poor choice of monitoring tool for STAGE IV CANCER.

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Dear Badboob67,

    First of all, we really appreciate you taking the time to share what you did.  As for relying on these tests - they are more for our adult children then they are for me.  We are aware of all the things that you have mentioned.  Having read my posts you would know that my Daughter-in-law is a radiologist and we have been given this information repeatedly.  In researching and doing Dr. Richard Schulze's 30 day incurables program the results in my life, my husband's life, one of our employee's lives has only shown what he claims would occur.  Until you have extensively researched and viewed Schulze's teaching videos you will not have the understanding and understand OUR confidence in his program.  If we were real Schulze purists I would not even be having needles stuck in me.

    Regarding the AMAS test we are aware of the things you have pointed out.  This is a FDA approved test as well as approved by Medicare.  The basis for me taking the test is for one more potential confirmation on my cancer status.  Unfortunately the lab at this end corrupted the blood sample and it will have to be done again.  The whole point is that we feel the stage IV breast cancer dx is in the past. 

    I just wish you could walk a mile in my shoes and you would understand my confidence.  I never felt better in my adult life since I started Schulze's program.  My husband feels the same way.

    I will be happy to converse with you after you have taken the time to view at least some of the video information.  We continue to view them repeatedly because there is always something new to learn.

    While we appreciate your concern about more extensive imaging, we strongly feel that there is more harm done to the body than good through these tests.  It would not matter what they said anyway for we have chosen this natural healing course.  Many women have chosen the modern medicine and followed it to the end of their lives whether a long life or short.  The quality of my life is more important whether that be long or short from the initial dx.  There does not seem to be the best quality of life offered with modern medicine with the drugs one seems to have to remain on and the fear that we consistantly see from these posts.  I have chosen not to live that way.  I have more energy than before the diagnosis and everyday is a good day!!!   This is all attributed to living Dr. Schulze's program.  Without a doubt we feel God led us to this wonderful natural healing that HE has sanctioned through HIS creations - NOT MAN!

    Thank you. again, for your time and concern.

    We will keep you in our prayers and may you have a beautiful, blessed Christmas.

    Genesis 

  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited December 2007

    Hi Genesis,

    I wanted to ask you a little about the cottage cheese/flaxseed oil. I was doing that for several months (sometimes using yogurt too - just more of it), but I've since been doing research on dairy and finding that one woman wrote a book about her experience with stage IV breast cancer. She finally eliminated all dairy from her diet, and she has been cancer free for several years and has helped at least 61 other women become cancer free merely by eliminating dairy products of all kinds. She writes that the hormones in milk products are disastrous for women prone to breast cancer, and that, among other things can actually help to cause the cancer.  So, now I really just don't know what to do about the flax/cottage cheese plan. I do find that if I don't drink milk, I do feel better, and when I do have a little, I get all mucusy.

    Just wondered if, in all your research, you've come up with any clearer picture of the whole dairy connection.  Thanks!

    DeAnn 

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Dear DeAnn,

    I totally understand your confusion.  Dr. Richard Schulze would say to completely stay away from anything that has a face on it regarding consumption.  My husband and I have found Dr. Johanna Budwig's research and findings to be very compelling regarding cottage cheese/flaxseed oil combination.  I have on occasion used the organic plain yogurt as well if I run out of cottage cheese.  When you refer to the hormones in milk products are you referring to the cow's natural hormones or injected ones?  We only use organic so hopefully we are avoiding any unnatural anything!!  Early on in my conversations I did mention about "The Maker's Diet" by Jordan Rubin.  It is an excellent resource for diet and health but he is not a vegan.  I don't think we would feel comfortable with cottage cheese and flaxseed oil consumption without using it in conjunction with Dr. Schulze's regimen.  For the most part we stay away from sugar, dairy, flour, and meat.  Look up Johanna Budwig and it might help make a clearer picture for you.  Basically until we are convinced that this cancer is gone probably 95% of what we do is preached by Dr. Schulze.

    We pray for everyone on this board so you are now included!  Have a blessed Christmas.

    Genesis

  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited December 2007

    Hi Genesis,

    Thanks for the response. I've done a lot of research on it and have been waffling, so I was curious what your research showed. The book I was talking about (can't think of the name at the moment, but if you need me to I can look it up), she is talking about naturally occurring hormones, not injected ones. These are the hormones that are always present in the milk that makes a tiny calf turn into a huge 800 pound beast. IGF-1 I believe it is called. Even organic milk has it.  The only milk products I have consumed since reading about this are aged raw milk cheese from pasture-fed cows and some goatsmilk cheese (which is not as high in hormones).   I have used a bit of milk and butter from pasture-raised cows in cooking as well. If you haven't read Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan, it is fascinating and you can learn just how much better for you pasture raised anything is versus grain-fed animals.   At any rate, I'm using almond milk to mix in with my flax right now which I hope will be an adequate substitute. 

    DeAnn 

  • Kindergarten
    Kindergarten Member Posts: 4,869
    edited December 2007

    Dear Genesis, Merry Christmas to you and your husband. I hope you both have a blessed holiday. In response to you saying that you would prefer treatment from God's creation versus from man's, I truly believe that God put medicines on earth. He allows conventional medical treatment, otherwise many beautiful Christians would be in heaven now. God bless you, Kathy

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Hi DeAnn,

    Perhaps this information will help.

    Keep reading!!

    Genesis

    http://www.whale.to/a/beckwith.html

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Dear Cindrella and Everyone!!!

    Kathy's comments regarding her friend who has a friend who is now dying of cancer is one case.  There are many types of alternatives out there regarding treatment for cancer and to blanket "alternative" as one is a total misconception.  If this woman dying of cancer is not familiar with Dr. Schulze's natural healing program it is certainly time for her to seek it out.  He has had amazing success with patients that modern medicine has sent home to die.  Why do so many on this board choose to stay in the dark regarding Schulze??  There are plenty of women who die each year from traditiional treatment.  So those of you that believe in traditional medicine are you going to abandon it?  Bottom line is you have to believe in what you are doing........for me it was common sense to go with natural healing.  As I have said over and over and over - God made our bodies capable of healing themselves.  Schulze's program is all encompassing in regard to healing disease.  God has given us everything that we need to maintain and to heal without a chemistry lab involved.  The choice is YOURS - NOT your doctor.

    Our prayers are with you,

    Genesis 

  • sdstarfish
    sdstarfish Member Posts: 544
    edited December 2007

    Genesis and Everyone:

    If any of you take Brevail, do you also take flax on your food? I have been taking Brevail for a few weeks now, and I'm wondering if I still need to put flax on my cereal as well. Thanks Smile

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Dear sdstarfish,

    I still consume flaxseed from other sources as I continue with the Brevail......I haven't read anything that would lead me to believe that you can overdose on flax...Sooo happy to hear you are doing Brevail!!

    God bless,

    Genesis

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    To EVERYONE,

    May 2008 be a beautiful, blessed, AND HEALTHY New Year for all of us.  God bless each one of you.

    Genesis and Husband

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    Just curious........has anyone actually gone and checked out Schulze's videos????

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    News
    "Instead of using surgery,
    chemotherapy, or radiation,
    researchers from the National
    Institutes of Health
    are
    finding so-far limited but
    inspiring success in a new
    approach for fighting cancer,
    using the immune system
    to
    attack the tumors the way
    it would a cold or flu."
    - CNN.com (August 2006)

    This is exactly what Dr. Richard Schulze's program does but his success is NOT limited. This is NOT new News!!!  This is what I have been doing in my own life and the results to this point are very successful........You must get healthy to get healed.  Drugs are NOT going to get you healthy in the long run - You haven't dealt with the right health issues.  Again, cancer or any disease is a manifestation of an unhealthy immune system.  Why is modern medicine making this sooo complicated when it is not!!  Hmmm.....$$$$$$$$.

    God bless all of you,

    Genesis

  • sdstarfish
    sdstarfish Member Posts: 544
    edited January 2008

    Thanks, Genesis

    Smile

  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2008

    Dear Genesis,

    Thanks for the link.  The testimonials are encouraging.  I think the main problem with alternative healing vs. conventional is the mindset of our society.  We have been brain-washed by the huge conglomerates that everything should be FAST, NOW, NO WAITING, IMMEDIATE RESULTS.  Here, take this pill and all will be better.  Here, rub this on, take your aches away. Here's your meal in a box, no spending extra time preparing in the kitchen mentality.  We have been programmed to expect things to work IMMEDIATELY.  When you look at the state of sickness in the United States, it all goes south when our society decided that our lives needed to be lived in over-drive.  That is my opinion, of course.  The development of chemicals and technology to make  the profits and "save us time", have sickened our country and our world.  Because of this, we now are suffering terribly, all because of the love of money at the expense of our beautiful world.  Alternative healing takes "TIME", "PATIENCE", AND "FAITH".  I am saddened how some ladies on this board responded to your enthusiasm when you first posted.  That's about the time I joined also.  I am saddened by the negativity I see when information is so joyously shared.  Your posts uplift me and give me hope that there is someone else out there that shares my beliefs.  My mother is battling stage 4, and I have searched the ends of the earth for answers.  Unfortunately, she is 82 and will not committ 100% to any protocol I develop  for her.  She has partied like a rock star since her remission from ovarian almost 6 years ago, and now is paying the price.  I am looking for the alternative "magic bullet" that will allow her to continue enjoying life without giving up her vices.  I will certainly keep your protocol in mind if I have to go and be her care-taker.  She won't be able to object if I'm "doin' all the cookin'".  God Bless You Genisis. 

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Dear Lisa,

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT!!  We need to be encouraging each other and it is my JOY to be sharing all the wonderful things we are learning in this breast cancer journey.  God's natural way is so beautiful and peace filled compared to the frightening avenues offered through modern medicine.  It is not for lazy people but we also know how God addresses lazy people in the Bible and for my Husband and myself our faith in Christ and His Word are the foundation for all we are doing.  It is EXCITING and we consider the bc diagnosis a blessing in truly opening our eyes to healing and maintaining our health set forth by God's way.  We so agree with all your opinions.

    Our prayers are with you and your Mom.....my Mom is 83 and we can appreciate what you are dealing with......If you could look into Dr. Schulze's Bowel Detox, it probably takes the least effort and time and yet delivers amazing results.  It wouldn't be hard for your Mom to do.  We are here if you have any questions.

    Again, Lisa, thank you for the encouragement - right back at you!!!

    Our prayers are with you,

    Genesis

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    I am just putting in a friendly reminder to check out about rebounding.  It is soooo good for you and it is fun!!!  Just put in "Rebounding health benefits" and you will find a ton of information.

    Genesis

  • TizMe
    TizMe Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2008

    I just stumbled across this site, and had to make some comments.

    Well, Genesis, you certainly shook up this site, didn't you?

    Good for you!  You are so gentle, kind and helpful, not "pushy" at all, as some have indicated. 

    It seems just the opposite of pushy to me, as there are those who push, push, push the traditional methods, which knows only to cut, chemo, and radiate.  They seem to want an exclusive club here.  How sad. There are none so blind, as those who refuse to see. 

    And you, ERS2006, are so typical of those who know absolutely nothing about alternative methods, yet still persist in loudly proclaiming your objections.  Do yourself a favor.  Educate yourself.  Your comment about a money scheme is totally unwarranted, at least in this situation.  If you'd checked before you opened your mouth, you'd know that Richard Schulze has made all his formulations available on line for free.  Yes, that's right...FREE!  One could certainly purchase the products ready-made from him or a number of other outlets, but you can make them yourself by following his instructions.  I'm making my own, and saving gobs of money.  Your tone is, at the very least rude and sarcastic, and certainly shows your ignorance on the subject.  I think you owe Genesis and Dr. Schulze an apology.  I doubt that will come, though.  I can only imagine what you'll say about me.  Oh, well...do I care?  Not one bit.

    I'm happy to know some are listening to you, Genesis, and that you didn't do a belly-up and leave the site just because some suggested it. That took courage.  Keep up the good work.  Those who are trying Schulze's methods will certainly be helped.  Those who don't may also be helped in some way, but, oh the side affects!  Everyone is free to make their own choice.

    I welcomed information in the books, "A Cancer Battle Plan" by Dave and Anne Frohm, and "How to Fight Cancer & Win" by William L. Fischer.  Both are excellent books.  The latter gives a comprehensive approach to all modalities.  I suggest, ERS2006, you get this book and read it before you pop off your mouth again.   

    Anyway, here's to everyone's good health. That's the bottom line, isn't it?

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Dear TizMe,

    Thank you for your support and validation in regards to what I am doing.  HALLELUJAH for someone else who knows about Richard Schulze!!  The reason we keep plugging away on this site is that we really want people to investigate and understand natural healing. When natural healing is used in such a comprehensive manner as to the way Schulze implements his program health care is going to be completely turned around and, ohhhhh, soooo for the betterment of individuals.  It will bring a stop to the torture taking place in modern medicine.  All of us that embrace natural healing have to do our part in spreading the word! 

    Thank you again.  It means so much. 

    God bless,

    Genesis and Husband

  • TizMe
    TizMe Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2008

    Dear Genesis, 

    Thank you for replying.  I totally agree with you on natural healing.  That's not to say I don't believe there's a not place for traditional medicine (they do many wonderful things I wouldn't want to try myself...like maybe sewing a finger back on, or something), but we've put way too much trust in them, and given them way too much power over us.   I'm soooo sick of hearing  "there's no scientific evidence...blah, blah, blah".   Problem is, they only look at their scientific evidence, and no one else's.  And that's put forth under the influence of the drug companies.  Guess who benefits there?   I also believe most medical doctors are hard working, caring individuals.  They're just trapped in their own little world, and can't see outside.  There are a few who do want to do more alternative, but are hindered by the powers that be, and can lose their license if they practice using other means. 

      

    I'm at the point where I told my doctor, "You diagnose and I'll treat."  He expressed absolutely no humor at that one.  Now, he just sighs heavily when I come in....

    Are you familiar with CureZone?  Dr. Schulze has a forum there, and many share ideas, etc.  It's excellent.  I think he's absent most of the time, but occassionally he drops in.  As with all natural healing, one must sift through a lot of information on the forum, tossing some aside, but you soon learn who you will trust for sound advice, and who you won't.

    Another good one on CureZone is "Ask Tony Isaacs".  That guy is sharp!  Of course, there are those who will dismiss him, as he's not a medical doctor.  Their loss, sadly.

    When the medical community can offer no more than they have in regard to cancer, some of us are compelled to search out other methods.  Years ago (God's direction, I know) I purchased my first health book, "Back to Eden" by Jethro Kloss, quickly followed by a juicing book by Norman Walker.  Of course, I've added many more books since then, including "School of Natural Healing" by John Christopher, who was Schulze's mentor.  These men were so rich in knowledge, and I'm so thankful to benefit from them.

    We're all on a quest for health, and if that leads us away from tradition, so be it.  As you said, there needs to be a turn around.  You're doing your part.  Thanks.

  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited January 2008

    Dear Tizme,

    Welcome! I've been all over the site you mentioned.  Really good one.  Genesis, we will try Dr. Schultze's regimen after she completes the one she's on. It will be done in about 4 weeks.  I think my husband and I may try it too, although we do quite a bit of that now, but of course we cheat.....we are starting the cleanse by one of the herbalist's Dr. Schultze recommends soon, it will be our second one and requires a 5 day fast.  Anyhoo, glad to have you on this board Tizme! 

  • TizMe
    TizMe Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2008

    Thanks, Lisa.

    It's so hard to do something for others when they can't, or won't grasp the importance of letting go of harmful things.  Bless your heart!  You've got a battle there.  Your mom is fortunate to have you at the helm, directing her journey.  I've just prayed for her for healing, understanding, and willingness to follow your course. 

    Hang in there.  You'll be glad you did.  I had my mom for the last two years of her life (she was 89), and I wouldn't trade that time for anything. 

    Blessings...

    TizMe

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    TizMe and Lisa,

    You have both blessed my day soo much.......THANK YOU!!!!

    Genesis

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    I have been thinking and praying about this alot.........Please hear me out.  I found myself being consumed with trying to read as many entries on this board as possible with ever increasing frustration.  It's like picturing some of you in a hampster wheel - spinning and spinning but you are not getting anywhere.  Much of the research will tell you anything the researcher wants to prove.

     I am quoting something from Brian Scott Peskin.  He says "we have come to accept cancer as unstoppable, incurable and even a natural part of life.  This perception is a tragedy, since cancer is NOT a natural disease for man and is preventable."  I would like to add totally curable through natural methods which I have shared over and over on this board.  Peskin also states "the human body is highly resistant to cancer" and backs these statements up with research studies that for the most part have been ignored.

    I am 10 months out of my stage IV bc dx.  I can't even describe to you what exactly my cancer involves other than it being stage IV because my records are still in the University Hospital in Madison, Wisconsin.  I wasn't interested how they were labeling it - I just wanted to deal with it.  What they were talking about to me sounded so absurd (my Husband would say barbaric)!  I just knew in my heart that there was a better way.  Just being human told me there was something so wrong with what they were saying.  God has given us the ability to stay healthy, get diseased, heal ourselves from disease or not depending on the life choices we make.  A cut finger won't heal if you don't treat it properly....and the same applies for anything internally.  That's all I have been doing is treating it properly.  I still have my tumor but there is this feeling of drawing or pulling that has been taking place for awhile.  I know that my body is dealing with it.  It is totally fascinating and exciting!!  I know it is my body taking care of things the natural way.  Dr. Schulze's program promised certain things and I am experiencing the fruition of it.  The only side effect to the things I ingest is getting nutritionally healthy.  My Husband and I have long since left the American diet in the dust.   

    I guess I am just trying to say I have really come to care about all of you and I want you to experience what I have experienced.  There is nothing special about me or my results thus far.  It is there for anyone and everyone to experience. Please don't abandon common sense for the opinion of high priced doctors, their high priced education, their high priced research studies and their high priced drugs.  Hopefully someone out there will read this and know that I am not writing for personal gain of any kind.  I am concerned for you. 

     God bless,

    Genesis

  • genesis
    genesis Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2008

    You KNOW I will keep checking........Have ANY of you taken the time to view Dr. Schulze's videos??  Yes, there is a ton of stuff out there that you can keep trying but would it not be easier to adopt a program that has been tried and proved over and over with the most wonderful results??  It is far more comprehensive than narrowing your focus to one or two particular modalities.......

    God bless,

    Genesis 

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