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  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008
    From all of us Ulla ,
  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited January 2008

    Surprised   YOO HOO ...oh girls I keep dropping off to sleep lololo I been on the bed for 5 hours ...having zippy cuddles and tea etc ...lol...look how much I missed ...I am glad you're feeling bit better Lisa xxx MEN ..... anyway we cant buy the love and the respect we have off our beautiful children ...they love us no matter what!!! Always will!!

    Yes gb click direct link and paste it on the tree thing here image url xxx

    I love you sisters xxx...got real sore throat....but I am happy the chemo works..

    BURN YA GOD DAMN UGLY BOOTFACE BURN ....BURN ! BURN!!!!

    B U R N .....BURN!!! Yell

    LOL

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited January 2008

    LUCY YOU ARE GOD DAMN BEAUTIFUL...!!!!!you also have beautiful boys and your o/h is lucky to have such a strong and brave woman in his life ...XXX

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited January 2008
  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Just about to go but so good to see your post Sue. I do like to think of you curled up with your soothing Zippy. He is your little cat angel, with all his soft fur and purrs and warmth. Sleep well.

    love,

    gb xxx 

  • Cyndy
    Cyndy Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2008

    I was diagnosed with in situ carcinoma of the right breast in October 2007. I had the cancer removed December 21. On January 4th I was told I needed a mastectomy. They did a biopsy on the left side yesterday. They are thinking of doing a double mastectomy if it comes back positive. When the surgeon took me in, he said he found in situ carcinoma all through the right breast and the best thing to do is remove it before it develops further. If I take it off now i won't need Chemo or Radiation, just the surgery. I am overwhelmed. I have 44DDD breasts and wear a size 5. I am a small woman, I just have gagantuan breasts. I have wanted a reduction for YEARS!!!!!!!!!! But after seeing two surgeons (I work in xray and have worked in Oncology for 25 years so I know all the MD's and see everything but I am still overwhelmed.)they want me to do this before it really spreads. But here's the thing. WHEN WILL SPREAD  TO THAT POINT? In the past, I have seen patients take their chances and do nothing, and then five years down the road they are sorry they didn't have the mastectomy. They ALL ended up with months of chemo, radiation etc only to DIE within a two year period. My maternal grandmother had a mastectomy in the 60's for the exact same thing.Her daughter, (my aunt) just had it done two years ago. No reconstruction. And that's the other thing.Because of the enormous size of my breasts they HAVE to do something to the good side. What should I do?

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Sue, if you want boobs - you can get them! I have seen some fantastic recons. Just get over the hurdle of the next few months and then we will all cheer you on as you look for a new boob. (Well, what I mean is, a good bc surgeon who will make you feel whole again - you know what I mean!).

    hugs,

    gb 

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited January 2008

        BURN BOOT FACE BURN fire

  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited January 2008

    Hello Lucy1234 from your sister across the pond.  I am also a Lucy!  LOL  

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Hi Cyndy,

    So sorry you are going through this trauma and anguish. It is scary and overwhelming to be told that you need a mastectomy and you need some time to come to terms with this. At this stage, it seems to me that you have non-invasive bc and that is the "best" type to have. I had ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS) all through my left breast. I had a lumpectomy first but no clear margins so I had a mastectomy last April. There is usually no rush for surgery for DCIS because it hasn't invaded. However, until the final pathology comes back they can't rule out invasion. My surgeon was in a hurry to operate because the first path report suggested invasion. However, the path on my mastectomy showed no invasion so I didn't have to have chemo or rads. The big question that nobody can answer is which DCIS will spread? If only we knew! I was very eager to have my mastectomy because I didn't want to take any chances - I was told that, due to the aggressive character of my bc, that it could infiltrate at any time so I am grateful that they found it when they did.

    Now, about double mastectomies. One of my friends had this done and she is coping well. She also had quite big breasts but has decided against recon. She chooses to wear a double prosthesis.  It's a really individual thing. You could have a single mastectomy with a reduction on the other breast if you wanted to and then wear a prosthesis on the mastectomy side. Or you could have a bilateral mastectomy done and have a recon the size that you would like. There are quite a few options.

    For now though, you need lots of support and understanding ears. Don't feel rushed unless there is good reason to have surgery sooner rather that later. If you have worked in oncology, you no doubt know a lot more than I do so what I have said is probably not new to you. The most important thing for you now is to vent, yell and find support. You are very welcome here.

    Hugs,

    gb (Jane) 

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited January 2008

    Haaa!!!  Burn, baby, burn!!!!!!  That's funny, Sue! 

    Wow, Cyndy.  I can't be of much help to you, but others here probably can.  My tumor was fairly small, but invasive.  I had a lumpectomy and I'm now doing chemo.  I'll do radiation as well and will take Tamoxifen for five years. 

    Most of the ladies here have had mastectomies, so they will probably be able to give you better advise and/or information.

    Good luck!

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited January 2008

    There you go, Cyndy!  gb (Jane) was right there for you with some words of wisdom.  Sounds like your situations are very similar. 

    Karen

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited January 2008

    I wish I could have been here for the conversation regarding ex's.  My ex pays his monthly support, but it's way less than what he should be paying.  He didn't have a steady job when we divorced--he did freelance work and got paid under the table.  There was nothing on paper to prove how much he was making.  His support payment didn't even cover the monthly cost of daycare for Portia when she was little.  He's living the swinging singles life out in LA and does virtually nothing to support his daughter financially.  I guess I'm really fortunate (God knows, you'd be happy with any amount if it came on a steady basis, Lisa), but it still chaps my hiney that my dh takes care of more of her financial needs than her real dad.  It doesn't seem to bother him either that he only sees her once every 3-4 months or so.  I'd die if I had to go without seeing either of my kids for that long. 

    Take care everyone!

    Love and hugs,

    Karen

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Hi Karen! I saw on another thread that you are house hunting. I hope you find  a place you all love. My S/O and I are also looking for a place with some land around it but we are not looking hard enough!

    My middle son, Heath, is in Montana at the moment, making the most of the snow just outside of Bozeman. He loves the people and is having a great time.

    Hope you are having a restful weekend. I must go and tidy up!

    Love the firey threat to bootface, Sue! 

    hugs,

    gb

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited January 2008

    By the way, Lucy, you are absolutely beautiful.  That customer doesn't need to get his eyes checked!!! 

    Ulla, I hope you're doing all right.  Please post when you're feeling up to it.  Love you!!!!!

    Love to you all--Jane, Shirlann, Aunty Em, Melody, Lisa, Sheila, Wren, Mia, and everyone else.

    Are you sleeping, dear Sue?  Please get more than two hours sleep tonight!  Sleep in on your day off!

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Karen, that used to really bug me too. My kids' stepdad used to pay for their (highschool) education, medical and dental and buy them presents. Getting any extra money out of their father was like getting blood out of a stone!

    gb xox 

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Sweet dreams everyone,

    love gb 

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    I can't wait to get home tonight and see the pics posted here!

    Karen, I think most of us can relate when it comes to the ex's!  Like my girls, Portia will understand as she gets older, how her Dad is, if she doesn't already.  My ex worked as a sub contractor, so he got paid under the table as well. 

    I wish I could be an fly on the wall at his parents home today, if the police actually went there to pick him up!  His parents are such enablers!  Why would you let your adult son live off of you for 5 plus years, knowing full well that he is not taking care of his own children.  And they know the hell I have been through this last year.  And not one ounce of support!

    Oh well..enough of that.

    Jane...are you tidying up yet? haha.

    Sue, we will help you get through the reconstruction period, if you chose that.  Just like I will rely on all of you the next month!

    Cyndy, welcome. I had a mast. on my left side.  I am a busty woman as well.  Full D's.  I am having reconstruction on that side in about a week.  At the same time my ps is going to reduce, mostly just lift and make the other side the same as the reconstructed side.

    As Jane said, take your time if you can, making your choices.

    Take care all!

    xoxo

    Lisa

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited January 2008

    Hi Jane!  We looked at three houses today.  My dh is the most interested in the one that requires the most work.  The people obviously smoke and the stench from it literally hits you in the face when you walk in the front door!  Peweeeee!  It has potential, but will need to be completely gutted (new flooring, paint, etc) before I'd consider moving into it.  I don't have an issue with smokers, but the smell of it on clothing and in homes makes me want to vomit.

    We looked at one that was very contemporary and in a very upscale neighborhood.  That was MY personal favorite.  My dh is more into the farmhouse style homes. 

    We probably won't end up buying any of the ones we saw today.  dh is very picky.

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited January 2008

    Oh, I forgot to give you a cyber pat on the back for calling the cops on your ex, Lisa.  That's great!!!!  Good for you!  Damn deadbeat!!  How can he sleep at night knowing he's done nothing for his kids and that they don't want anything to do with him?  I'd be devastated!  I'd give my life for my kids--I just don't get people like that.  So selfish!!

    Don't you dare feel guilty, Lisa.  You did the right thing!!

    Hugs,

    Karen

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    I have started to tidy up Lisa but I just thought I would check back one more time! I cannot believe your ex-inlaws can be so heartless! Don't they care at all about their beautiful grand daughters?? My sister's son and d-i-l divorced and she helps her dil all the time - financially, with babysitting etc etc... What is wrong with people?!

    Karen, sounds like a very similar situation with our men. My partner wants acres around him and an old house with "character" (LOL!!). When we were married, I think the dreadful old house we were living in (out in the country) contributed to our marriage break up. Yes, it was cute - from the outside! But nothing ever got done around the place and it really made me mad! I do love him but he's not much of a handyman - a bit of a dreamer and philosopher - great to talk to but...I want a nice house!! Not an expensive one - just one that isn't falling down around my ears with rats in the rafters!

    I am exaggerating a bit!

    Must go and get my washing out. Later, ladies!

    Jane. xxx 

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    My ex mil loved me when I was her dil.  Thought I was the best thing that ever happened to her son.  Then when I asked for a divorce, that all changed. Of course he said allot of ugly things about me to his parents. But still, you need to keep the peace to have a good relationship with your grandkids.  It's all a long story, but my two oldest, do not see those grandparents!  They say they care about the girls and miss them, etc, etc...BUT ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!  So basically my girls only have my father, and he has been a rock for them when they needed him.  In fact, my oldest said, when she gets married someday, she hopes he will be around to walk her down the aisle!  They miss my mother soooo much!

    Good luck house hunting Karen!  I will be doing that in about 1 1/2  years.  I need to downsize!  I have a 4 bdrm, 3 bath home, and it's just the 2 of us!! I don't need that.  Then when Olivia graduates, in a little over a year, it will just be me!  I say...Condo, here I come!

    My ex loved old homes too!! How funny!  I do as well, I love the charm.  But like the two of you....I hate the fixing and the upkeep, and the "promises" to remodel etc!  So because of that, I prefer newer homes!

    xoxo

    Lisa

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008

    Sue , niceeeee fire! Burn you bootface , burn. If you are asleep , I hope you have sweet dreams. Jane and Karen , good luck with the house hunting. I love to go look at houses. I never owned my own house. Always rented. I thought when me and my o/h got together , we would buy one. But , he informed me , about a year after me moved in together , that he had no intentions of buying a house. I think there is to much of an age difference between us. He is retired and wants to go to Fla. I don't. I need my job here more than ever now. He gets enough retirement to go where ever he wants. Sometimes I wish he would just go. Maybe it would be best for both of us.

    Lisa , are you still at work? You never said how your leg is doing. Hope its better. xxxx

    Welcome Lucy and Cyndy!

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Lol! It's the same the world over. I told my partner the other day that I want an apartment on the lake. He wasn't impressed! He hates being jammed up against other people. I guess we will both work something out - we are both a lot more mellow now.

    It's sad about your kids' grandparents Lisa. Just before I found out (I had suspected it for months) about my first husband's affair/s) my mil had told me that she "loved me like a daughter". We had become quite close but when I left her son, he bent the truth somewhat - made out that I had left and then he had met the other woman because she was such a comfort and he was soooo lonely! Grrrrrr! Anyway, she believed him and took his side. My ex used to be so nasty about me to my boys when they had access visits with him. In spite of it all they have kept on seeing him - they crave his approval - which they rarely get! They know what he is like and all say that I am better off without him. They still love his mother who is basically quite sweet - just a bit one-eyed about her blue-eyed boy!

    I am going to have a whinge now - my arm feels as though it has a bag strapped under it this morning - lots of lymph build up. Damn! Maybe I overdid my workouts at Curves last week. No - it's probably that I haven't been massaging myself. I am big on telling everybody else here to massage themselves and go to LE specialists but I don't practice what I preach! I thought I was getting it under control so I became slack. Well, the housework will have to wait - I'm going to do some massage. 

    oxox

    Jane 

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008
  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Wow Melody! Thanks for that cute little Aussie heart. You must have known it was Australia Day yesterday! I'm going to try to post a pic here from photobucket later.

    Jane. xx 

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Hi girls.  I am home from  work now.  Sorry, I know you all have asked about the leg. It's fine..still sore, but ok.  The surgeon looked at it and just told me to keep putting neosporin on it and keep it bandaged.

    I like the fire Sue.

    Mel, the "photo" for Ulla...what I see is just upgrade with pro today, photo bucket.?? Hmm...I will have to refresh and see if a photo comes up.

    Men...I tell you, the are the same world wide!  And their mothers..they are very blinded to the faults of their children.  I guess I was raised differently.  My parents loved us, but if we were wrong...we were wrong!  I am the same with my girls.  If my daughters were not living up to their responsibilities to their children like their father is doing, I would have no problem setting them straight!  I certainly would not enable them, by allowing them to live with me for  5 yrs!!

    Ok..I said before enough, enough.

     Still...wondering if the police showed up to get him, and if he was there??

    I told Olivia, and she said..."mom, it's about time"!!  " That should have been done a long time ago!"  out of the mouth of babes!

    Curious to see if my symbols appear this time!

    xoxo

    Lisa

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Darn it...those darn bothersome things are back!Yell

    Mel, I refreshed...still the same thing.  What did you have on there?  Thanks for the red ribbon..I like that!

    Well, I have my raspberry iced tea, a snack, and Oliver..and I guess it's another night in, with the tv or a book.  My life is boring!! haha.

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    For Melody and all of my animal loving sisters!

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    I wanted to share a photo of my Mom, just days before she passed.  Notice the rays above her head, and the hallo above her and one off to the side?!  There were NO windows near her, for reflections.

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