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  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited January 2008

    Oh gosh Lisa do I feel you...I had the EXACT same anger tonight coming home in my car...he never pays or offers ANYTHING...yet he has a huge social life etc... if I could I would disappear but I cant deny the boys him. I really really do know how you feel....it is such a TORMENT ..... your girls are a credit to YOU ...and YOU alone ...when they have their own family they will know more and more as life goes on what a truly WONDERFUL job you have done...

    As for the financial is there anyway he would pay anything...I absolutely hate the kind of feeling that eats at me if I think about this for too long..it winds me BIG TIME ..... SOME MEN!!! UTTERLY SELFISH xxx

    Lisa what you feel is totally natural ... such a good mum ...dies a thousand times.... and feels helpless in such situations....your girls will truly understand... Over here they have started to take the driving Lisences and passports away...and threaten jail....a lot of mums are owed thousands... do you have some kind of child support agency in America .... xxx

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Sue,

    Thanks.  I am just so sad lately, and tired...I don't know why?  I should be happy!

    He lives with his parents..he is 49 yrs old, as far as I know, he is not working again!  It's crazy!  He was a work aholic when we were married for 22 yrs! He doesn't have bills of any kind!! I don't understand how someone can be that way. He claims he is depressed...well darn it..do something about it!! If anybody should be depressed, it should be me!! Look what I have been through?!  Ohh...it angers me!

    And he wonders why his daughters will not have anything to do with him!!

    I know...I shouldn't let it all upset me so.  I have just been feeling so fustrated and down, and somewhat overwhelmed.

    sorry!

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    yes Sue...at this moment there is a warrant out for his arrest!  But he has never been served.  I think I will call them right now!

    I was putting it off, because I actually got 150.00 last month...but nothing since!  So..why should he be out living life normal...when we struggle?!

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited January 2008

    Lisa...you have every right to be overwhelmed...blimey look at what you have been through , going through, living with and things like this seem worse than ever...even if it is diabolical that men do not fully support their children...why dont you phone him and ask him to help....if he doesnt then get him arrested ...they think they can get away with anything....

    My ex wants me to pay him back what the chil support take out of his wages so he can run his motorbike !!! I am soooooo wound up...and I am not letting him have the boys for a while after last time....when they ended up 100 miles away...

    DO YOU THINK THEY DO IT ON PURPOSE!!!

    You are so worn out xxxx You have my love and prayers xxx

  • Lucy1234
    Lucy1234 Member Posts: 289
    edited January 2008

    Hiya Sue, Karen everyone.

    Yes ex's are a nightmare with or without the children (otherwise we would still be with them)

    We will be happy in our old age in the knowledge we did the best, and they will not. Its a selfish side that lots of men have.

    My partner will never ever say no to his ex if the kids want anything he will make sure they get it, even if he has to get the credit card out. I think he just feels really guilty as he left her.

    Well I had a really quiet day at work today until... I let the part timers go at 3pm and then all hell let loose. There was three of us trying to serve 8 people. Being the only woman there I was the only one multi-tasking!! The men are so slow!!!!

    Anyway I worn a skirt to work today and a customer told me I was breathtakingly beautiful! Ha Ha

    I said wheres you white stick!

    But I now have a big head!!

    Hope you ladies are all feeling good today. I wish we could all meet for a nice meal and a few glasses of wine... That would be so nice

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Oh poppy..whoops..Lucy...I wish we could all meet too!  I need that, I think we all do!!

    I am not surprised the customer said that to you...you are BEAUTIFUL!!

    Funny how only women can multi task!!

    I have thought about calling my ex and giving him the chance to start paying..but I know I am fooling myself.  It won't happen.  I just need to call the police.

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    I did it!! I called the police, and gave them the information.  I am not positive that he is there now, but they can go check, which is what she said they would do!

    I guess I will wait and see.  Why does part of me feel bad??

  • Lucy1234
    Lucy1234 Member Posts: 289
    edited January 2008

    Don't feel bad. people will only do to you what they think they can get away with.

    Don't be a door matt or people will walk all over you.

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008

    (((((((((((((((LISA))))))))))))))) I'm so sorry you're feeling so low. First of all , there is a reason they are called "EX"s'! You know , as mothers , we always want to be there to fix whatever it is for our kids. And we have to face the sad fact that we can't always do that. And having kids that are adult , makes it harder to help. Because they have adult trouble , mainly financial. And being at a place in our life that we ourselves are on a tight budget , we just can't always help. And that alone is enough to make a person depressed. But as Sue said , they do , and will understand as they get married and have kids. My ex was great while our son was under 18 and he had to pay by law. But as soon as our son turned 18 and started college , he no longer helped financially. And you know what expenses are like for a college student. I now have a lot of credit card bills and always gave my son as much of my tax refund that I could. But last year I had to keep it all , to have something to live on while I was off work because of stupid bootface. I always felt sad and mad , cause how can you look at your child , who is going to college to better himself and just cut him off financially. This is when he really needed us. What really makes me sick , is the fact that my son graduated college with a dept of over 25,000.00 to start adult life with! I'm sorry Lisa , I didn't mean to go on about my situation. But I do understand how you feel. Just know you helped by being there when they called to vent their situations to you. They didn't call him now did they?! My son seems to call me first before anyone when something really good or really bad happens in his life ,and that makes my whole day! Believe me , they are adults and they understand your situation. They just need you to be there emotionally sometimes and that , I'm sure you are.

    Plus , you have your surgery coming up. I know that is weighting on your mind. You are gonna be just fine. I mean it. If I could do it , you can. And you are gonna look just great. Try not to worry.xxx Melody

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008

    Good for you Lisa. Don't feel a bit sorry for calling. He certainly doesn't feel sorry , or he would be helping his child without the law making him. I hope they get him.

    Lucy!"wheres your white stick" Now come on ,  You are one sexy mama , Next time , you say "I know , thank you very much , have a nice dayCoolKiss!

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008
  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Dearest Lisa,

    Please don't feel bad - you rang the police because you love your daughters and you want a bit of justice. Your daughters are a huge credit to you and love you so much. You work such long hours and you have this worry about your surgery coming up - no wonder you are exhausted! I wish we could be all there to give you a huge hug. I know your daughters are young adults now and they will make it ok but it would give you so much pleasure to step in and help them out. They understand and love you. Their father is missing out big time on those precious girls.

    I know exactly how you feel about not being able to help your kids financially. I was on my own for 10 years before I remarried and I just could not give my boys any more than the basics - shelter, food and huge amounts of love. When they wanted their first computer, they had to go around the neighbourhood for months washing cars and doing odd jobs to save enough to buy a second hand one. How I would have loved to have gone out and bought them a brand new computer! I had to get child support to collect the maintenance because my ex was always late with the payments and I was reallly dependent on when I was in between cleaning jobs and factory work. The difference was that my ex was/is a very wealthy man but had the attitude that because I left him and took the boys away (he was having an affair and wouldn't give her up - wanted both of us (!) and eventually married her and they had twins) that he wasn't going to help us.

    He was furious when I contacted Child Support and had them take it out of his salary. Considering how much money he was making and all his stocks and shares, he should have paid a lot more! Just like in Melody's situation, as soon as each boy turned 18 the child support stopped and they had to put themselves through college. I could never help them much - just give emotional support but they love me and they always ring me where ever they are and ask my advice. 

    Sorry, I have raved on about myself - mainly to just show how common this is! There are some wonderful, unselfish men out there but man, there are some rats as well! I cannot understand why these men want to punish their children by behaving like this. If we as mothers, left our children behind to pursue our careers, other partners, whatever...would we forget our children and not bother to pay the most we could to help them? It makes me SO angry too. Even if I was prevented from ever seeing my kids again I would still want to support them financially because love can't be just switched off! 

    I hope you can have some time to rest over the weekend and come here and vent as much as you like! We love you.

    hugs,

    gb 

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Lucy - I am sure that customer had 20/20 vision! You ARE a gorgeous girl! Go ahead - feel big headed! It does you so much good to get a compliment.

    gb 

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Sue - It's your day off tomorrow! It should be a whole week! You will have to endure the legacy of the red devil for a while yet while he does his terminating work on bootface but then he will fade away, taking any remaining cells down  with him and you will start to feel better. You are so inspiring with your attitude - this treatment gets you down but how I admire you, the way you pick yourself up and carry on. I just wish that you could get your pain under control.

    I am a member of the Australian breast cancer site and last night someone posted a couple of links about triple negative bootfaces. Both articles were quite positive and encouraging. If you are interested I will give you the links. 

    Hugs,

    gb 

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Mel, I love the kind angel picture you posted. It is so soothing and relaxing. Where do you find all these pictures and how do you post them? Do you just google up pictures and drag them onto your post? I must have a go at that myself.

    gb 

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008

    You know ladies , there is something I always wondered about , it is this very topic that brings it up. When couples split/divorce , what makes a parent stop supporting their child financially , emotionally or even stop being in their lives? Do they think the bond is only there because of the marriage? I wish someone could answer this for me.

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Melody,

    Thanks!  I know you understand.  We do want to give our kids whatever we can.  I know that my girls are not calling for me to help, I just wish that I could.  They are so independent.  They are going to school, working and doing it all on their own!! I am very proud of them.  But when things like this happen, I just wish I had the money to say..."don't worry honey...I will help you".  My oldest daughter after finishing grad school this coming may..she will owe, about $80,000.00!! That's a huge debt to start off with.

    Yes, it is very sad, that the ex can't pay for the one daugther that is still under 18.  He owes me about $9,000.00!!  I would be happy right now with about $500.00!

    Sad, very sad.

    xoxo

    Lisa

  • Lucy1234
    Lucy1234 Member Posts: 289
    edited January 2008

    LOL must be my great new boobs

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008

    HI gb , go to photobucket , click on find stuff , then type whatever it is you are looking for in the search box. When you find what you want , click on it , then on that page scroll down to direct link , click that and it will instantly copy , come back here , click on the tree at the top of the comment box , there will be a space for image url , click on that , then right click for paste and paste it, then click insert at the bottom. You can do it!

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Mel, will it automatically resize? I don't want to clog up the page with a huge image!

    gb 

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Oh ladies, thank you so much for your support!  GB-Jane, I so agree with everything you said.  You and Mel are right, the girls know where their support lies, and it is with me.  They know I am here for them no matter what.

    Who knows what men are thinking.  I know for my ex..he was so depressed that I wanted out.  I guess after 5 1/2 years, he has still not recovered!! Whatever!  He is the one missing out on everything!  They don't call him, see him.  For my oldest, it has been 4 1/2 years since she has spoken to her Dad.  If he would just get his act together, and admit what he has done, and start taking care of his youngest, they may, just may want to have some kind of relationship with him.

    I just don't understand.  I would die, if I could not see my girls, or talk to them, or have them not want to be around me.

    I look forward to seeing the angel pic when I get home.

    I am off work the next 2 days. I will get some things done that I need too, to prepare for my surgery, but I will rest as well.

    xoxo

    Lisa

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Lucy...it is the whole package!! You are a hot mamma!!

    New boobs and all!!

    I can't wait to show off my new boobs, and tummy tuck!  Look out summer..haha...well..maybe!

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Lisa, that is a huge amount and no wonder you feel sad about it. You have such a sweet, loving soul. I know your daughters don't expect anything from you but I also know that ache you have in your heart to be able to help them. It would give you so much pleasure. It's hard not to fantasise sometimes about winning the lottery.

    love,

    gb 

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008

    gb , the images on photobucket will fit fine. Its the personal photos  that people post through photobucket that need to be sized. To do that , when you have pasted the photo in the image url , go down to demensions and delete and put in 640x480 and that will reduce it down to the correct size for here.

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited January 2008

    Hey Mel, thanks for that tidbit on resizing the photos.  Hopefully next time I post a pic, I can resize it!

    The lottery...yes...I was just talking about that to a co-worker! I need to win it!! But first, I need to play..haha..I never do!

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Sue, hope you are sleeping but those steroids are probably keeping you buzzing. When is your new boss taking over? I will keep my fingers crossed that she's nice.

    Mel - I gave the photobucket thing a go but it didn't work. I will practice again later when you are all asleep!

    Lisa so glad you have a couple of days off. Hope you will get some good quality rest for some of that time. How's your leg?

    Ulla, thinking of you. I get the feeling you are having a hard time right now and aren't up to posting. Big hugs to you.

    Hugs,

    gb 

  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2008

    gb , make sure you click direct link.

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    I'd better go and do some housework. My S/O is arriving this afternoon and when he's here I tend to not get things done.

    Love to all.

    Jane xxx 

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited January 2008

    Thanks for the tips Mel. I am going to copy down your instructions and get it right!

    gb 

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