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  • funthing42
    funthing42 Member Posts: 418
    edited April 2016

    Thank you.😊 . Sometimes you really need to vent. Hence the topic of the forum. So nothing upset you today. Awesome.

    When dealing with reccurrence ×4. It makes you slightly judgmental. Not so much a trust issue as it is my uncanny ability to see the big picture. Given my background it's quite easy.

    Its like being a weather person sometimes you get it right and sometimes not.

    It never seeks to amaze me that it is a shock for some if emotions are shown in a time of crisis. Three weeks ago I was slightly a different person.

    Thanks Ro. For not offering me services. Lol

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2016

    funthing, I have been in the ER and hospital with my critically ill mother. Just wasn't here to "offer you services". Vent all you want to, but remember that other people have things to deal with and aren't on this site every day. Perhaps you should try another forum if this one doesn't meet your needs.

  • funthing42
    funthing42 Member Posts: 418
    edited April 2016

    Well unfortunately you did not realize the comment was not directed at you or someone else.


    Hence the topic of the forum was to vent. Yes your correct in people not realizing what others are going through.

    Thank you again as stated above.

    Sometimes cancer can turn you into a stressed out maniac. Sorry to get off the topic.

    Sorry for your situation. Never a easy task and mental anguish can be exhausting.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2016

    Since my name was in the last line of your post, it seemed directed at me. Yep, gotta say sitting in a tiny hospital room for an extended period of time and watching your mom suffer will certainly turn anyone into a stressed out maniac. But then again, so will someone telling you to call a social worker as if she doesn't have the time or inclination to help you. Why does she even have that job in the first place? Have you considered reporting her to a supervisor?

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited March 2016

    rohanna - so sorry to hear about your mom. That must be so very hard. Sending you hugs!

    funthing42 - also so sorry about your recurrences. It stinks to have to deal with this one time, I can't imagine having to deal with it as many times as you have. Take care - sending you hugs, too!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2016

    mel, thanks for the hugs! I'm sending some back to you!

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited April 2016

    rohanna - Got it!! Thanks!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    I talked to a 15 year survivor today!!!!!!!! I'm coming up on 5 years and I admit that I worry about a reoccurance all the time. But this gave me hope! Any of you know some long time survivors?

    Also getting ready for the Relay for Life event on the 23rd. I only do the Survivor Lap which is less than a block because of the nerve damage in my legs, but I do enjoy the event. My favorite part is the Drag show where we choose Ms. Relay. Those guys are some ugly women! Gotta go to the bank soon and get some singles. I got some garters to stuff!!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited April 2016

    Funthing42: so sorry you are going through this anguish repeated times. I am forever in your pocket so to speak. I canno imagine the anguish and ups and downs you feel and send you support any way I can. Vent all you want. That's why this is here, It is called what 'cheezed' me off. and none of us never know when we will walk in your footprints. Vents help me to keep balanced. But then I'm a little 'odd' I guess.

    Rohanna: To answer your questions, (hope this is not too long ) It's not in my bio, ( i should add it, I speak of it on other threads) but I am a 24 year survivor This is an entirely new cancer in other breast diagnosed 12/15. . It took a while for me not to think about recurrence, and honestly I really thought I was 'done' with breast cancer till this past December. How naive.

    I'm fortunate to still be in touch with some of the support group women from 1993. A few of us were young, early 30's. Very young kids, my baby was 3. Some had recurrences very early. Some at a later date. Same breast etc. But a nice group of us are still living and pushing along. Some like me have had another BC in a different breast, that is very aggressive. I have IDC/IBC. Appeared 9 months after clear mammo and US (they always give me an US due to past diagnosis)

    Some said enough with the group and went on. Still alive though. My cousin is one of those. A 18 year survivor who loved support groups, but once she was done, she left them all. There are a lot of women like that.

    We all agree how far things have come, though not a cure. Additionally those of us that have had another BC, all agree that we are extremely grateful it happened now and not back then. So much is available. So many drugs in the arsenals.

    You just never know. I do remember from last time, though I didn't have chemo (no need) that the treatment phase passed, and after a while you have days where it does not come into mind. Days, turn into months and then many years.

    Things were so different years ago (1992) No hormone receptor tests, though they thought mine was hormone induced so I signed up for a clinical trial (tamoxifen) Yes Tamoxifen. Was on it a year. Possibly saved me from a recurrence. They feel it was so.

    No oncto type, genetic etc. or if they did it did not matter. Got standard extensive lumpectomy and rads. Then on my way. Lots of mammos the first 5 years which was NOT good I feel. NO SCANNING> It just was not done. Had a chest xray. CT scans were not the norm. I went to University of Chicago and they had some of the best oncologists ever. He once told me, that no one dies of breast cancer in the breast or lymph nodes. Remember that. It's when it spreads, and even then the prognosis is not always bad, it's chronic. Wow, that was 24 years ago. So they were ahead in their thinking and treatment.

    Also, it really bothered me last time (and I have to admit this time as well) that I got sick. I was a runner, no body fat, low fat diet, supplement addict etc. Very clean eating. Same with this time. Years ago the oncologist said, you have breasts that's why. Wow.

    But no cancer in that breast this time. . So I was 'cured' of that one. If there is such a thing. It will be 25 years this November for that cancer.

    Just wanted to share that it does get better. Eventually But the worry I think is part of the awfulness (is that a word) of this disease. It affects the body, mind and most of all your piece of mind. At least for me. Here I am, with that 3 year old is now 28 and my rock. My other kids are in their 30's and support me so much. They were so little before.

    So sorry about your mom. In your pocket and sending hugs. Sorry for the long post. On a steroid high after my # 3 of 4 Taxols yesterday.


    Val

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    Wow, Val! 24 years! And you were so young! I'm so sorry that it has recurred. How are you feeling now? I know we all worry about this b&%#h coming back. Guess it's just part of who we are now. I just read an article about a new drug that will begin human clinical trials in 3 years. I just wish a cure was being announced. I'd like to volunteer for the clinical trials. The link is BLOG.THEBREASTCANCERSITE.COM. Thanks for the hugs. I'm sending you a dozen Back! And make your posts as long as you like!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited April 2016

    Rohanna

    Yes 24 years. I stopped worrying around year 3 about recurrence or a new cancer, or maybe sooner . I learned after the yearly mammos, and US that worrying would not change the results.I feel the same now with mets, there is no 'catching' them. You either have them or not.

    This is an entirely NEW cancer, that I found myself, so worrying would do no good

    This time I'm doing pretty good. , just finished #7 out of 8 chemo. Then surgery and rads. Didn't have the internet all those years ago. I'm happy for advancements in treatment but there is so much out there, to worry and second guess about.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited April 2016
  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited April 2016

    Is anyone else havign a problem with this thread not clearing after reading it from their favorites?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    The results are back and my mom (a 12 year survivor) has multiple melanomas on her face. She's 86 and refuses any more chemo or rads. so we're hoping surgery is all that is needed. She may have to have her nose reconstructed This wonderful woman cannot seem to catch a break! Her oncologist told her last month that it was NOT cancer..her GP took samples and sent them off. I've been crying for 3 days. This sucks!

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited April 2016

    Rohanna - I am soooo sorry to hear about your mom! That is just awful! I hope that the surgery takes care of it for her and they don't want her to do anything else. Thank goodness her GP checked into it further. Hang in there and take care!

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited April 2016

    It happens far too often that one doc says something is nothing and another finds it's cancer because they bothered to test it. That's the 3rd melanoma misdiagnosis I've heard of lately. That kind of news just sucks.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    Thank you Mel and Wren! There will be some surgery but her GP is recommending a series of treatments that don't involve chemo or rads. I will learn more about them next week. I'm so glad I have someone to talk to about this. It's so frustrating to know her onc. missed it, even after having cancer himself. Thankfully, only a month passed before her GP caught it. It was actually recommended by her rheumatologist that she have the places on her face biopsied. I can't understand how her onc. misdiagnosed her. He said it was probably exema! I'm gobsmacked! She was always prone to sun poisoning so she avoided the sun all her life. Just goes to show that cancer is a sneaky bas%&#d!

  • mkinoly
    mkinoly Member Posts: 86
    edited April 2016

    So a so-called friend of mine isn't the most tactful or empathetic person in general, so I don't know why this upset me so much, should have expected it. She loves to post stupid (that's what I think, anyway) memes on Facebook. Some are semi-amusing, most are dumb, and some are offensive. Here's one she posted today:

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    She knows that both my wife and I have had cancer (me breast, her lung) and we've both had awful surgeries and my wife had 3 rounds of chemo that she suffered greatly with and that we're trying to eat "clean" and have put faith into our ability to live as healthy of a lifestyle as possible as a potential tool to avoid recurrence. I did respond to the post with "yeah, cancer is hilarious". I think I have a great sense of humor in general, but this really got me.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    mkinoly, I can only continue to be astounded by people who think cancer jokes are funny. I just don't get it and I never will. Your response was appropriate but I doubt she caught the sarcasm. She was probably offended. If you never hear from her again, it will be no great loss. A few years after my dx, I decided to rid myself of stupid people as much as possible. Smartest move I ever made!

    All that aside, I am sorry you and your wife are members of this awful club. But it is good to hear from a male perspective. I still hear idiots say that men cannot get breast cancer. I guess sticking your head in the sand and being uninformed works for some people. Unfortunately, if they read the statistics, they won't find it quite so humorous!

    Please come her often and chat with us. And if needed, we'll send out the midnight ninja gang to smack some sense into stupid people!

  • mkinoly
    mkinoly Member Posts: 86
    edited April 2016

    Thanks for the support, rohanna, especially the promise of a midnight ninja gang! :) For the record, I'm female--yay for legalized gay marriage!


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    You're welcome, mkinoly, and sorry for the assumption. I would like to hear more about eating healthy. There's so much misinformation out there that you can lose your patience. Do you take any supplements as well? I don't know your AI regimen, but there's a lot of information on these threads, The 19th will be 4 years out for me and I am looking forward to getting off these meds. Horrible side effects! I've heard a lot of good things about tumeric for the bone pain and I'm looking into it. Some interesting new clinical trials in the next 3 years as well. If I volunteer to be a guinea pig/ninja, does that make me schizophrenic? The voices in my head tell me no.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    It's 5 years, not 4 years! Sorry. Well, you know why.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    It's my 5 year ReBirthday! Break out the wine! Better yet, break out the Cure! How should I celebrate?

  • mkinoly
    mkinoly Member Posts: 86
    edited April 2016

    Hi Rohanna. Five years is definitely something to celebrate! Personally to celebrate I'd go alone for a walk somewhere beautiful and exude gratitude for the life I have and all the people and animals I love. Maybe break down and sob for awhile... have some meaningful moments. That's what my introverted self likes, but if you're more extroverted maybe a party is in order!

    I'm not taking any AIs. I refused all conventional treatment recommended to me except for the mastectomy. After that I requested prophylactic ovary removal to get rid of estrogen. To further reduce estrogen I have been working my way down to a "normal" BMI--I've lost 35 pounds so far, about 20 more to go. I also try to walk or do the recumbent bike 20 to 30 minutes most days, though I've had a long break from that because I think I broke my toe, darn it. I still need to research foods and supplements that could further reduce estrogen. I asked the integrative oncologist about those things when I saw him but he said nothing had enough studies/proof for him to recommend anything.

    I don't know if menopause feels the same regardless of how it came about, do you? Like I don't know if the hot flashes and lack of libido are the same as if I had aged naturally into menopause or if any of my pains are similar to what those on AIs or Tamoxifen feel. I do know that I miss estrogen and long to feel like I used to feel. But I guess I'd be here in a few years anyway (I'm 49).

    I'm happy to share what I've learned about nutrition and supplements. I figure even if my protocol doesn't successfully keep cancer away forever (what can? nothing, I fear) at least I will feel like I finally took care of myself the way I should have always done and have given my immune system a fighting chance.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited April 2016

    I've been having some trouble with posting in this group, but... CONGRATULATIONS Rohanna on 5 years out! You are still here to give anyone shit who deserves it and I am sure there are tons of people out there that deserve it :-). Sorry to hear about your mom :-(. I hope she is doing better soon. Such a drag... first we get our health crap and then once we are pulling it together, our moms get their health crap. I suppose we are both lucky our moms are still here, but some days it is tough. Tell your mom I hope she is feeling well soon and that all goes easy for her. Take care!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    Hey, Rock! Was gonna celebrate 5 years and woke up with strep throat! %*&#@%$#!!!!!! Oh well. Mom starts her first laser treatment on her face next week. Cross your fingers! How is your Mom? I hope things are still going well.

    Now for a funny Mom story. My daughter and I were driving down a busy street and a car in front of us (driven by a man on a cellphone) was in the fast lane driving about 20 mph. in a 45. He kept slowing to a stop at each break in the median then speeding up again to 20. No signals. I couldn't change lanes because of the traffic and I could feel Vesuvius getting ready to spew! After about 4 miles of this, he finally found a place he liked to make a U turn and as I sped by, I rolled down the window and yelled "Men drivers suck! Get off the phone and drive!" Then I flipped him off. My daughter sat quietly for a minute and said "You learned to drive from Nana, didn't you?" I didn't, but I did learn how to flip off other drivers from her! And she's still doing it! (Only now as a passenger.) Ah, tradition!

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited April 2016

    Ahhh, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree! :-). My mom is doing well. It's still hard sometimes to grasp that she is now 84 and not the same lady who could walk though the malls with me until I could hardly stand anymore. She always had more stamina so that is different. She is still pretty sharp and I can see where I get my humor from (although I don't recall he being very funny when I was growing up). Strange how that works. Her dementia is one side of her and her whitty jokes and associations are the other side. Because she goes back and forth, I have to roll with it and continue to have patience when she isn't 100%. It can also be sad that although I talk with her about what is happening in my life, I can no longer ask for her advise and opinions because they just don't make sense. Her thoughts are coming from somewhere else and that is what Cheezes me. So I guess the realization that I have lost a bit of her can bum me out, but... she is safe, says she is happy and physically pretty healthy for her age. How did your mom's treatment go?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    Mom's treatments start Wednesday. She is so frail that I don't know how much she'll put up with. Fingers crossed.

    I attended a local Relay for Life event this weekend and I'm totally cheezed! It was the worst! Survivors were barely recognized and then pushed aside. They were more interested in getting you to buy junk from vendors. It was so disorganized and cheap! I left feeling totally disrespected. I'm still fuming about it. I've decided to join a bigger group in the city 22 miles from us. I have a sneaking suspicion that the organizer of the local event hoarded the items given for door prizes and is going to sell them on EBay. I talked to a lot of the survivors and they were as angry as I am. I get so sick of people taking advantage of us!!!!!!

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited May 2016

    So, this isn't so much cheezed as it is wondering. My surgeon (a friend from years gone by) was following me until I cancelled last year. My MO, who I used to like, but now don't think much of, also was following me. I have my 5 year coming up, mammo appointment is set, but not sure if I need to see either of them. I kinda decided after my last MO appointment there was no reason to see this guy since I am not on ALs and he has become rushed. I suppose if I ever had a concern I could pop back in. I haven't seen the BS because, well... he is a BS, but I feel like I should sign off with him (and perhaps catch up :-)). Anyway, just feeling odd since my next Gyn. isn't until October and that is typically when regular people (we still aren't regular people) do their mammos.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2016

    Rocky, I know exactly how you're feeling. I've been considering switching oncs. but am scared to do so. My onc. of 4 years moved to Atlanta last year and the guy who took over my case is one cold fish. Gone are the jokes and the concern. The new onc. is almost patronizing and sometimes I expect him to pat me on the head and say i don't know what I'm talking about and I'm being silly. I hate it! I'd make the switch, but I've been with this group since the beginning and I just can't seem to get up the nerve to leave. Let me know what you decide. I've already stopped taking the AI's since my 5 year mark passed last month and I almost expect him to shake his finger at me and lecture me like I'm in the Principal's office. I have to go see Dr. Lurch (you rang?) next month and I'd rather have a root canal! Did your onc. suggest yearly visits?


    On a good note, glad to hear your 5 year mark is coming. What a lot of crap we've been through! My daughter took me out for lunch when I hit 5 yrs. , but nobody else seemed to think it was a big deal. Hope you celebrate in style! Maybe these landmarks only seem significant to us and that's just sad! I'll celebrate with you long distance. Tell me what day it is and I'll toast you with some Stella Rosa peach wine! Then we can symbolically flip a big bird to the world! Cheeze 'em!

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