Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 6,887
    edited March 2016

    Puffin, I am shocked and saddened by this news. Lew will be missed by so many people but especially you. I wish I could do something to make it better for you.

  • ohiofan
    ohiofan Member Posts: 206
    edited March 2016

    Oh Puffin,  my very deepest sympathy to you and your family.  Our sisters have given you great advise for this time.  Just know that my thoughts and prayers are with you.  Try to take care of yourself and let others help with whatever they can.

    Peace,

    Bonnie

  • Puffin2014
    Puffin2014 Member Posts: 961
    edited March 2016

    thank you for your excellent advice Anne, I will take it to heart. Spent today writing his obituary and I need to decide on a photo yet before we meet with funeral home tomorrow afternoon. And then since I'm his personal rep I'll need to start sending death certificates and making all the notifications.Dad is here with me now. He sorted through the papers in a large rubbermaid bucket for HOURS today, found more uncashed checks, found a year's worth of envelopes from a bank that had never been opened.


  • violethope
    violethope Member Posts: 32
    edited March 2016

    Puffin I am so sorry for your loss. Sending big hugs to you!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2016

    When the hard times of life come, we know that no matter how tragic the circumstances seem, no matter how long the spiritual drought, no matter how long and dark the days, the sun is sure to break through; the dawn will come. The warmth of his assurance will hold us in an embrace once again, and we will know that our God has been there all along. We will hear him say, through it all, "Hold on, my child, joy comes in the morning!"
    -Gloria Gaither

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited March 2016

    Dear Puffin, I don't often check in, but I had to respond. I am so very sorry for the loss of your Lew. Praying that you find strength and comfort from your family and friends during these tough early days and beyond.

    (((((((Hugs)))))

    Paula

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited March 2016

    Dear Sandra & Mike, Prayers for Mike & you, Sandra, and all those who will be taking care of Mike.

    (((((Hugs)))))

    Paula

  • termite
    termite Member Posts: 241
    edited March 2016

    Puffin, I am so sorry for your loss. Sending  prayers and hugs to you

    Sandra, sending prayers to you and Mike

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited March 2016

    Dear sweet Puffin, the news of Lew's death hit me like an arrow through the heart. I absolutely cannot imagine what you are going through! Bless you and you make your way through these first days and beyond.


  • Anneb1149
    Anneb1149 Member Posts: 960
    edited March 2016

    Puffin - I don't know about your state, but Fl has two versions of the death certificate- the short one and the long one. Some places will accept either, but some places will only take the long version. You get the ne of each "free"but have to pay for more. I think we got 10 of each.

    And again, I know how you feel, finding checks and paperwork you knew nothing about. My DH, for reasons I will never understand, told me over and over that he had told our oldest son everything we needed to know. He said that it included bank accounts and passwords, insurance policies and who to contact. I had no reason not to believe him. Unfortunately, he told my son I had all the information. To this day, I don't know that we have seen everything. He was OCD about money and never wanted me to know exactly how much we had. This was after 42 years of marriage.

    When my SIL passed 14 years ago, my brother found cash all over the house. Guess you never know everything about your spouse.

    I am sure you will get through this week pretty well, because there is a lot to do, and a lot of family and friends. It is when that is all done that you will first realize what has happened. Again I say be easy on yourself. Don't buy into "you have to do...." You can take some time just to absorb what has happened. And don't be surprised when you find yourself driving and have no idea why you are on the street you are on. Or find yourself putting your car keys in the fridge.

    {{{hugs}}}

    Anne

  • Puffin2014
    Puffin2014 Member Posts: 961
    edited March 2016

    Dad and I spent 2 hours with the funeral director this afternoon. I'm bushed, but pleased with how it's coming together.

    go to www.hansonrunsvold.com to see the details, service is Mar 25 Good Friday. Lew's photo and obituary have been posted.


    I'm going to have a table where we'll spread out items that remind us of Lew: his Segway helmet & keys, a computer keyboard, binoculars, his Bird Watcher Watcher Fieldguide, etc. I'm also going to bring a basket of items he owned (watches, flashlights, headlights, leatherman, some of his gadgets and let each grandchild take an item to remember grandpa with. I'm going to set out our anniversary album, each page has a year's worth of photos of what was significant that year. 39 years in one album. I can only look at it in short spurts or it makes me cry but it's such a treasure. It was just a couple weeks ago that he printed out the photos for me for page 39.

  • Seedsally
    Seedsally Member Posts: 260
    edited March 2016

    Puffin I hope you won't be offended but I wrote a poem for you and Lew:

    Goodbye My Love

    By me: Sharon

    We walked together you and I, through good times and through bad

    Through laughter, loss, and pain-sometimes happy, sometimes sad

    We held each other without words, when being held was all it took

    Sometimes just would stop a moment and share our special look

    Now it's time to say goodbye, and go our separate ways

    But never will we be apart, I will think of you always

    Goodbye My Love

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2016

    Puffin, good morning! I read the obituary you wrote for Lew.... and you did VERY well! So sorry you are having to go through this.... But every passing day will be a little easier... Just the thought of him falling off of the roof, and the after-math, is what hurts so much!

    We only have each other for a little while.... every night I go to bed, and thank GOD for this day, and ask HIM for a million more tomorrow's for both of us....

    Anne! That's right! I remember having to get MORE death certificates, for every dang thing Dad had anything to do with! And some WILL accept a copy, other's won't.

    My folks had everything pretty much in order.... So I have all of our important papers in one note-book, inside plastic pages.... then kept in a metal cabinet in our closet.... I wrote down every phone number that has to be called... Especially SS.... to stop those checks before they send another one..... Also the girls are on our bank accounts, and we registered a Quit-Claim deed, so the house is in their name....

    That way, they can either rent or sell, to help pay for our expenses if we have to be in some other "home".... And we paid for our Cremation...... I just want to be together, with the ashes of our little dog, when we kick the bucket.... That's what my Grandma always used to say... I had to handle everything for her when she had to leave her home.....

    So the girls know where everything is.... I have it all written down.... That is of course except the cash Dear Husband has stashed God only knows where.... Somewhere upstairs, in his cubby-hole, under some boards inside a metal box, in between SOMEthing! I've explained this to my Daughter's, and told them just do an inch-by inch search of that little cubby-hole upstairs.....

    See, if he TELLS me, then he will think I will maybe lose my mind, somehow, and post this information to the news-papers, and the world will come looking for his money.... and then TAKE it and we will starve to death.

    I handle all the money stuff... I write all the checks, and keep track of things he accidentally throws away that we NEED. Like during tax season, and KEEPING those forms that come in that we NEED to keep, that are NOT "junk-mail".... Ha!

    And Anne is right, about forgetting little things! You can put sticky-notes all over your house... Our little minds can't absorb all the important things all at once... like what has just happened to you...

    So you just take care of yourself, and take it easy....

  • Seedsally
    Seedsally Member Posts: 260
    edited March 2016

    Oh Chevy you make me smile but I know exactly what you mean and you sound like such a smart girl.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2016
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2016

    The value of all service lies in the spirit in which you serve and
    not in the importance or magnitude of the service. Even
    the lowliest task or deed is made holy, joyous,
    and prosperous when it is filled with love.



    Charles Fillmore

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2016

    What a beautiful poem Sharon. Made me a little teary-eyed, but that is ok. I think in my 'older' yrs. I am a little more emotional. I'll be back later to talk more as I have to go to work now.

    Blessings,

    Jackie

  • Seedsally
    Seedsally Member Posts: 260
    edited March 2016

    Thank you jackie

  • termite
    termite Member Posts: 241
    edited March 2016

    Good Morning Ladies,

    Puffin, you wrote a very nice obituary for Lew.

    Chevy, My dh and I are getting things in order for our sons.  We are writing where accts are and passwords for online  items. What medications we take and other items they will need to know. My mom had everything paid for and done for us girls. She even wrote her own obituary. All we had to do was talk with the funeral home for a day for the funeral, find photos and do the dinner afterwards(but there was money set aside for that too) On the other hand my MIL does not want to tell the kids anything. We finally insisted that she go to the lawyer to make sure things were set up in case she could not take care of herself. The lawyer was able to tell us things to do since DH is her POA, We spent almost a month getting her things in order for my DH and BIL to take over when necessary. Found accounts she did not remember having.

    The results for my CT scan on my lungs are in. The spot is still there and has not gotten any bigger. Both Pulmonary and onc. drs thing it is scare tissue from having bronchitis. Will see the pulmonary dr. in 1 yr.

    Sharon, a beautiful poem.

    Chevy, what is a quit claims deed



  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited March 2016

    Sharon, What a lovely poem. It is just beautiful.

    Puffin, Nice obit. I know how hard those are to write after we did BIL's. I hope you are feeling the arms of love around you.

  • Luvmaui
    Luvmaui Member Posts: 86
    edited March 2016

    I haven't checked in for months but this morning decided to visit and was met with such sadness. Puffin, I am so very sorry for your loss! Such a shock to lose the love of your life so quickly. It sounds like you have loving support of family and friends to help you during this time, and I join the women of BCO in offering my love and support to you.

    Sandra, I hope Mike continues to feel as good as he looks in your picture during his stem cell transplant. My love and prayers are also with you two.

    Welcome home Chevy! I've missed your sunny posts and welcome SeedSally as you begin your BC adventure! You've come to the right place for encouragement and a little levity when you need it.

    I'll return on another day to give an update on my life, which all seems rather trivial right now.

  • bonnets
    bonnets Member Posts: 769
    edited March 2016

    Puffin, so sorry for you. I just found out , as I have NOT been receiving posts for the site again this week. Finally came here on my own, don't know what's up. Have a lot of catching up to do!

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2016

    Sharon, beautiful poem. Puffin, the obit you wrote for Lew made us believe we all knew him. Glad you had those 39 years together and those students had his dedication. Termite, hooray that the lung nodule is probably just scarring.

    A quitclaim deed (as opposed to a warranty deed, which you usually get when you purchase a home) is a deed that says the grantor (the person issuing it) “conveys and quits claim” to the portion of his or her interest in the property that he or she is granting to the person receiving it. It’s usually used when someone wants to add someone as a co-owner, or inherits property along with another and decides to give that person their entire interest; sometimes it’s used when the grantor can’t or doesn’t want to “warranty” that he or she has clear title (going back several owners in the chain) to the property--which is why it’s rarely used for the sale of property, but usually used when gifting an interest in it. Sometimes, a sole owner uses it when he or she wants to make a child, sibling or significant other a “joint tenant with right of survivorship” so that upon his or her death, the property doesn’t go into probate but immediately becomes the property of the surviving joint tenant(s). If you don’t use the magic words “joint tenants with right of survivorship and not as tenants in common” (emphasis mine), a court might consider the survivors “tenants in common” along with the estate of the deceased--the property becomes part of the estate and there often needs to be a sale and division of the proceeds before the estate can be closed.

    A “warranty deed” is what you probably got when you bought the property.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2016

    Termite... A Quit Claim deed is an official paper designating your kids, or whoever you want to give your house to, before you pass away..... Or you could get a TOD.... (transfer on death) paper, which gives it to them after you pass away.... but that way, if something has to be handled before you pass away, they can't have it. This paper has to be filled out, and then notarized. Actually, BOTH papers have to be notarized.

    Our neighbor's both went into Assisted living.... but years ago, they gave their house, property, car to their Son & DIL. THEY manage everything for them... (now it's only her.... because he passed away....) They are renting out their house now, which pays almost all of her monthly rent, and she is very happy.... She could not have handled the whole thing herself....

    This eliminates the need for even a Last will.... because it is already in their name. My folks had done this also....

    We still pay the annual taxes, (she sends the tax statement to me....) and it does go up, because we got a break because we were Seniors... Since it is in their name, the taxes went up, but it is worth it to us, knowing it is taken care of....

    Also I stopped paying 3 bills online, because if anything happened to ME, my Husband would not see a monthly statement for the phone, cell-phone, nor Water bill.... because I got reminders by email. Now I get paper billing....I can still pay online, but my DH does not know a computer from a printer.... Hah! Same as I could not tear-down an engine like he could.

    I cashed out any investments I had.... moved them to savings... So that is also taken care of.... My Grandma had little bits of money hidden under newspapers in the bottom of drawers also! She had a heart-attack.... then the hospital, then to Assisted Living... But it set off Dementia, and within weeks she did not remember anything! The AL helped me take care of her.... I was then POA, and DPOA...

    Then her little savings ran out, and I could not keep her there! The home helped me find a State run nursing home....

    I could not sell her house! I knew within a couple months she would never go back.... I tried to sell her house.... ! But the State told me I could rent it, for a minimum amount, to cover the home insurance, taxes...etc.

    By this time I had to move her to a Nursing Home.... Then I kept her house rented until she passed away, and that money went to the State and they paid more to take care of her.... Oh GOD I'm glad I don't have to do that again... Usually those "places" have people to help you through things like that.... She lost most of her memory.... forgot she had a Son & a Daughter.... and I was the only Grand-child who would take care of her! Actually she was my Dad's step-mom....

    But I am so thankful that she was "mine" to take care of! I learned to really love her, and take care of her because I WANTED to.... she became like a little kid to me... I was all she had.... It was so hard to watch what was going on with her.... I would go see her all the time, and stop for hamburgers, and sit with her in her room, and help feed her, while we had a "picnic"!

    I even reached a point, where I told them.... "No more memory tests".... She didn't know what to do, or what was going on.... I felt bad trying to make her see the difference between a picture of an "apple" or an "orange".... It was useless.... and for what?

    And I carried out her burial wishes also.... That pretty blue dress, her necklace, and even the songs she wanted.... Hardly anybody came.... But when you get older, most everybody is gone anyway.... But I know it was what she wanted.... She was "mine".... My folks didn't even come to her funeral.... Actually I didn't want anybody to go out of their way anyway...... I was the only one that cared.... just me and my Daughters.

  • bonnets
    bonnets Member Posts: 769
    edited March 2016

    Haven't received any email notices for the site since March 9th!

    Puffin, just reread about Lew's accident. Nothing makes loosing someone we love easier, but when it's so sudden, I know it's even harder. Hugs and praying for you.

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited March 2016

    Oh my gosh, Puffin! I am SO sorry. I hope you can feel all the love that is being sent across this thread to you! My heart goes out to you and your family and I pray that you will find some peace in the midst of all the turmoil right now.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2016

    A caveat if you are considering giving your assets (including house) to your kids (or your parents are doing the same for you) so that you would qualify for the state to pay for the nursing home via Medicaid: there is a minimum time period that must be met between the “gift” (or spend-down) and entering the facility. In some states it’s as long as 5 years, in others as short as 3. If the senior moves into the facility too soon after giving away or selling their assets, the state could deem them to still own that asset and either not pay or demand recoupment of what they had paid for that period, until that period has been met.

  • Shellshine
    Shellshine Member Posts: 1,039
    edited March 2016

    Hi Chevy,

    You know i went into hospice nursing shortly before i left the boards. As an admission nurse, every week I see seniors who can't take care of themselves any longer. The lucky ones had discussions with their families and planned end of life care, but many families are caught in a crisis and their elder winds up dying in a nursing home. Some of these homes are little more than warehouses, I feel so bad for them. All the advice I just read on this board is spot on.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2016

    SHELLS!!!!!!!!!! Hi little kiddle! How have you been, dagnabbit??? Man, that is a hard job you have there... I've seen a LOT of that too.... My older friend Theresa..... WAIT A MINUTE HERE.... IS THE TYPING MUCH SMALLER THAN USUAL, OR AM I GOING NUTS?.... The print is so much SMALLER....!

    Anyway, first her Husband was moved to Assisted Living, because he was 92.... finally she had to be moved there too.... separate rooms, because they get along better that way... Ha! He got worse, fell..... Then nursing home, and he didn't make it...

    But she is 91 now, and just a kick to be around! We go see her about every week, and take her "presents" and just love to sit and visit with her, and make each other laugh! SHE is thriving! And that's amazing in a place like that! She is a feisty little Italian woman... So she and my Husband love to tease each other.

    But my Grandma, and the stuff I went through with her, is just what you said! SOME nursing homes are just plain AWful! I moved her 3 times! All different reasons, but couldn't let her stay in a few of those places... Some would give me night-mares.... I know exactly what you mean.... Some people have no-one else... and they would be better off to put them out on the ice, like they used to do in Alaska, and let them leave this world peacefully. It's even WORSE when the people still have their minds, and have no-one in their life to care for them!

    Sandy, I know.... You are right, but the reason WE did, is like our neighbor's did... To rent out the house, and that money would be used to care for us... Also, with money in the bank, there is no way the State would help take care of you.... that care is for folks, like my Grandma, that only had a minimum amount in their bank... And a house that would not sell.... So her house had to go back in her name, and we could only charge enough rent to pay for the taxes and insurance.... By that time anyway, maybe a matter of months, she was bed-ridden, and then I lost her.... And the State would give her just $30 a month, for her "necessities"... But without them helping me, I could not take care of her....I couldn't get her house to sell, she ran out of money, and I was thankful the county helped us out.

    I know people DO put their assets in their kids names.... but that is to hide their money, and that has to be done like a certain amount of time, before anything happens.

    Most accounts are better off with your kids names on them, and POD.... That way, they can write checks for your care when you can't.... My older friend has Macular degeneration and cannot see hardly anything...... So Thank God for her Son & DIL... Her assets and what money they had is going for her care... which it should.... That Assisted Living place is $3,000 a month... But of all the "HOMES" this is a nice one...

    Good Morning Puffin.... thinking of you....... (((hugs)))


  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2016

    To see the earth as it truly is, small and blue and
    beautiful in that eternal silence where it floats, is to see
    riders on the earth together, brothers and sisters
    on that bright loveliness in the eternal cold--people who
    know now they are truly brothers and sisters.

    Archibald MacLeish

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