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  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited May 2014

    Would you believe?  Cherry jello!  Of course it's not just any old cherry jello--I'm using tart cherry juice concentrate and organic gelatin that I bought in bulk at the health food store.  Tart cherries are extremely high in ORAC value and very high in anthocyanins besides:  Cherry juice benefits for cancer--page of links to studies The really good news here is that I just moved into this house last summer and it has 3 full-size tart cherry trees in the backyard and they are all just full of cherries!  

    The other main ingredient is gelatin of course and it has health benefits as well.  Who knew?  Well I sort of did but wasn't paying enough attn.  Link to a blog:  Gelatin--do you know this superfood? Also a link to a blog that has a list of research references to glycine, a major component of gelatin:  Glycine   Both glycine and cherry juice help you to sleep better b/c cherry juice has melatonin and glycine is a neuro-relaxer, as opposed to a neuro-stimulant.  Interesting stuff.  (Don't ask me why this is underlined--I can't get it to go away.)

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited May 2014

    Oops, you might want a recipe:  (I'm not using sugar, just stevia)

    Cherry Gelatin:

    4 envelopes of unflavored gelatin
    2 ½ cups of cold water
    1 cup of sugar
    1 oz (two tablespoons) cherry juice concentrate.

    Dissolve the gelatin in cold water
    Combine gelatin, juice concentrate, sugar and water combination in pot and bring to boil
    Remove from heat
    Stir in one cup of cold water and pour into 13x9 inch glass dish
    Refrigerate until firm, approximately 2 – 3 hours and cut into squares.

    - See more at: http://www.traversebayfarms.com/cherryjuicerecipe...

  • Solen
    Solen Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2014

    pipers_dream,

     How lucky are you to have 3 tart cherry trees!  I love tart cherries and one of my favorite recipes is to take an organic chicken or organic Cornish hens and mix cherry balsamic vinegar and tart cherries, onions, a little red wine or chicken broth and roast it all together.  (can add lime juice and cinnamon as well)  it is so good.  Don't know if you ladies eat chicken, but the balsamic and tart cherry reduction could be eaten w a lot of savory things.  Just make it in a saucepan. (honestly, I could eat it by itself)

    Nice to know tart cherries are good for me as well.

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited May 2014

    juneping, a little treat every one in a while is a good thing! Cheer up!

    Just got my nipples today! Yay! Some pain in abdomen though. They took the skin form there.

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited May 2014

    Pipers, I may have told you that I'm originally a Missouri girl myself. I lived in SW MO until I was 8, at which point we moved to STL. I envy the cherry tree. My grandmother in SW MO had a big tree in her backyard, and I loved picking and eating the fruit as a little kid. My mother used to "put up" the cherries and make delicious homemade pies from them.  

    I want to try this cherry jello recipe. I am not crazy about the taste (and aftertaste) of stevia (and I loathe the frankenfood sweeteners like sucralose and aspartame).  I wonder would it be too sour for consumption with no sweetener added at all?  I suppose I could try myself and be the judge!  ;-)

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited May 2014

    Yes gemini, it's pretty sour but I think you could try leaving it out--just buy the concentrate and taste first before you make it into jello.  I don't use much stevia at all b/c I don't really like it either and I'm trying to get away from thinking everything has to be sweet.  Artificial sweeteners can raise your blood sugar as much as sugar does b/c it's the perception of sweetness that raises it.  Weird huh?   I added chia seeds to my last batch and it looks so pretty.

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited May 2014

    yes I've read that artificial sweeteners can still trigger insulin response. I used to love real sugered Coke (but have given it up) ... Never could drink diet soda because the aspartame could trigger migraines and I hated the taste.  But I know many overweight people who consume large amounts of diet soda ... I wasn't surprised to read about the insulin response. Apparently stevia doesn't do it. 

    Trader Joes sells an unsweetened cheery juice concentrate -- will buy some on my next trip there. Just like Sir Mick, "my favorite flavor (is) cherry red."  ;-)

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited May 2014

    Yes, aspartame is nasty stuff.  I had seizures, on and off, for ten years before I figured out what it was and then I stopped consuming anything with aspartame and never had another one.  I can take phenylalanine pills just fine so that's not what causes them--DL-P very helpful for depression and oversensitivity.  Nah, soda has never been my downfall, but candy, cake, and cookies have been.  I call them the 3 C's.  LOL.  

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited May 2014

    Hi girls, did any one see a report about peaches reducing breast cancer risk or recurrence? My firend told me this but could not remember where she saw it. Maybe Dr. Oz? I hadnt seen an official report. Crazy!

  • Solen
    Solen Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2014

    So I am NOT going to feel guily for eating the dessert I made last night!

    I made dinner and dessert for a friend's family (she just had surgery) and I baked  peaches with topping of organic oats. brown sugar, butter  and cinnamon (like apple crisp topping)  and I made a small serving for myself and my son. (husband on a mtn bike trip of the grand canyon this weekend)

    Don't usually indulge in dessert, but it was sooo good.
    Probably need to eat the peaches plain, but it was worth the dietary hit.

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited May 2014

    Yes, I have seen the report in two places.  The first report which I think was based on the study indicated that one should eat 2-3 peaches per day for the benefit.  The Dr. Oz report, which ran last week and you could still probably find on the website, says 1 peach twice a week.  Also in the first report it mentioned that there could be a substitute like a dried plum/prune.  Apparently, laetrile, now banned from use in the U.S. is somehow close to peaches.  I'm trying to do it because I figure what can it hurt.  The only problem is that peaches are one of the dirty dozen, and it's hard to find organic sometimes.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2014

    wholefoods market has some organic peaches now...i bought some yesterday. didn't know it helps, i just happened to like peaches

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited May 2014

    Thanks for the info Mary! Interesting. Who would have thought simple little peaches could help. And here I am choking down kale....

    And Solen, enjoy that dessert. Sounds super amazing.


    Thanks!


  • Solen
    Solen Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2014

    Sciencegal, it was!  and organic as well.  I had roasted a chicken for the family w brussel sprouts, potatoes, carrots and onions.  I put a mix of apricot jam, white wine and rosemary on top.  (all organic)  Didn't keep any of it for ourselves, but kept some of the peach dessert!  And wake up today to see peaches are good!  LOL!

    My friend had surgery on her throat, non cancerous tumor and was able to eat the meal I sent over.  I think that whole, natural foods cooked with love are part of the healing process.  When I had my mastectomy so many friends brought healthy dinners for us.  But it wasn't just the food that was healthy, it was the kind intent behind the meal as well.  So I was trying to pass on the good vibes, and I guess I succeeded!  When eating for health, I think that is part of the equation as well, the emotional part, eating with loved ones, enjoying the meal.  So I try to balance that with heathy food.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited May 2014

    Bosumblues, they are high in B12, niacin, iron & zinc.

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited May 2014

    Someone was just telling me this weekend that he eats clams for arthritis--lots of collagen maybe?  

    Laetrile can be found in the pits of all fruits, but I think apricots are the richest in it.  Bitter almonds are also high in it and they use those to make almond extract.  Not sure about grapes but I've heard positive things about eating grapeseeds too.  While I was looking that up I found this OL catalog for laetrile type products and I bookmarked it--I haven't tried laetrile yet or ordered anything from this company.  Apricot Power I'm thinking about ordering some tri-methyl-glycine/TMG from there though--have heard all kinds of great things about it and it's great for AD/HD brains too.  

  • flaviarose
    flaviarose Member Posts: 442
    edited May 2014

    Re: apricot power - a good product.  I add the apricot kernels to a "nutola" that I make and have for breakfast every day.   Includes walnuts, almonds, pecans, pumpkin seeds, chia, hemp and some of the apricot kernels.   I chop some of the bigger nuts, mix with a small amount of oats, coconut oil, vanilla, cinnamon, pinch of salt and a touch of maple syrup.   I toast on a low oven for a while.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2014

    can i ask you guys about peach - that i saw some at the wholefoods but i couldn't tell the fruits apart.

    they put them together but the labels were kind of not matching to the fruits. there're peaches and there's some look just like peaches with or without hair (those tiny little short short hair). which is peach with or without hair? and are they the same in terms of anti BC value?? very confused here. sorry about the silly question.

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited May 2014


    I think the one with less fuzz maybe a nectarine...I am not an expert though.  I have notice a lot of different ones, very small all grouped together.  Maybe they are different varities like with apples?

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2014

    thank you lovewins!!

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited June 2014


    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140610122020.htm

    Limiting carbs could reduce breast cancer recurrence in women with positive IGF1 receptor

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited June 2014

    Interesting cp. Seems until we all get our own IGF receptor status, it might be wise to reduce carbs to a minimum. Thanks for posting!

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited June 2014

    Yes - I agree and this ties in with the recent news stating we need to get enough daily exercise to prevent excessive weight gains.  Maintaining our metabolism through healthy diet and regular exercise seems critical.  We post-menopause ladies now struggle with thyroid issues and slowing metabolism.  Weight issues can be such a struggle now....

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited June 2014

    Also ties in with recent news on calorie restriction. By foregoing some carbs and sugar, you could get a 30% reduction in calories. There's a clinical trial enrolling patients, CaReFOR (Calorie Restriction for Oncology Research), ie, women undergoing radiation therapy.

     

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited June 2014

    Heidi, I saw that, but what I don't understand with calorie restriction is how you keep your weight normal. I basically restricted calories all through treatment. It was not deliberate, but I pruned various things from my diet and that ended up being, de facto, calorie restriction. End result was that I lost too much weight (as in docs complaining).

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited June 2014

    Momine, the steroids they gave me made me ravenous all the time. So I couldn't restrict calories if I had known about it then. Through the years since, I've been cutting back on calories and have steadily lost some of the chemo weight. My tendency currently is on the gain side so I need to cut back yet again. Everyone's metabolism is different, possibly you went too low for yours too fast? It is worrisome to lose too much as that can affect our bones. I bought a diagnostic scale which measures bone weight in kilograms.  I don't know how accurate it is, but I've been keeping an eye on that number. So far it is holding steady. The scale also shows calorie expenditure at rest so you have some idea how many calories you'd need if you just stayed in bed all day. I think that measure is not meant for postmenopausal women though. Must be for an average metabolism.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited June 2014

    coffee

    I went on metformin for while ( PRE diabetic) after asking my endo doc ( FOR BC!)
    I could not tolerate the bloating and gastric upset. Sure wish I would have.  Pretty ' benign ' drug, as drugs go.


    BTW, have you read the patest Diabetes book ( title escapes me.. maybe END TO DIABETES ? ) by Dr. Joel Furhman?
    He  claims his way of f diet can completely halt/ reverse diabetes 2.

    Best wishes

    laurie

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited June 2014

    juneping

    It gets crazy, doesn't it ?
    CHIPS AHOY!  :>) Manga and enjoy.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited June 2014

    sophie

     'I try to use as much as organic as possilbe.

    My list:

    tumeric pills...'

    Why pills?

    I get mine from my local health food store. Then when you cook with it, add black pepper andf saute in EV olive oil.  I have read that the oil and blk pepper help to activate it.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited June 2014

    Heidi, I did not really have that effect from the steroids. My weight is steady right now, but I am not supposed to lose any more.

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