What foods are you eating to reduce recurrence?

Scotch

juneping

A good fill for a veggie diet for me was:

a shake in the morning- 1 frozen banana, a VERY generous handful of raw pecans (or nut of your choice), frozen kale, and a half teaspoon of vanilla extract, one cup almond/coconut milk no soy! -all organic. You can add 100% cocoa powder if you like chocolate. Drinking this at 9 am normally would hold me over till around 1

lunch- 1 or 2 avocados, salt/pepper,olive oil, and balsamic. you can also add red onion, cherry tomatoes, and kalamata olives 

Scotch

yogamama

All foods is converted to glucose, but as BrooksideVT so thoroughly pointed out, its about maintaining balance in the blood. So avoiding foods that are high on the GI would be something to worry about.

Here is a post to the study I refereed too earlier,

"A groundbreaking, seven-year human study, by Dr. Colleen Huber, NMD and her team at Nature Works Best,
an alternative cancer clinic in Tempe, Arizona, exposes a severe threat
to the survival of cancer patients – the consumption of sweetened food
or drinks.

Dr. Huber led a team of physicians in a seven-year interventional
study where cancer patients avoided all types of sugar: honey, maple
syrup, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, plant nectars, alcohol and
fruit juices (which are high on the glycemic index). This is the first large, human, interventional study that has indicted sugar as deadly for cancer patients. All previous studies were in mice, or retrospective, or in fewer than 20 human subjects.

Since 2006, this clinic has collected data on sugar consumption in
cancer patients, and has actively recommended, but never enforced in any
way, avoiding the consumption of sweetened foods (except with the
sweetener Stevia Rebaudiana, which has no sugar content or sugar alcohol
content). In this controlled interventional study, we followed the
diets and outcomes of all 317 cancer patients who came to our clinic
with a diagnosis of cancer, and who stayed at least two weeks in our
care.

We treated with natural methods alone, choosing among methods with
research-established anti-neoplastic effect, both oral and intravenous,
dietary and supplemented, nutritional and herbal, having a preference
for those with high patient tolerance and compatibility, and varying
with individual needs and tolerance, according to the standard
naturopathic principle of “Treat the whole person.”

The results of the study showed the group of cancer patients who were
steadfast in the recommended naturopathic treatments, but did not avoid
eating sugar had a remission rate of 36%. The second group who were
also steadfast in recommended naturopathic treatments, but did avoid
eating sugar had a remission rate of 90%. That is they did not eat:
sugar, cane sugar, honey, maple syrup, corn syrup, high fructose corn
syrup, plant nectars, alcohol or fruit juices (except the sweetener
Stevia Rebaudiana)."

Pretty interesting no?

abigail48

treat the whole person & eat natural foods

juneping

scotch - i love avocados but er/pr + can't eat them too much and too often. i eat it once a week. it's filling and i love that.

i am adding more nuts to my daily snacks and with the quinoa for dinner....we'll see.

abigail48

gary often says he's a big believer in potatoes, once gave a receipe of a white potato cooked in a sweet potato, I forget the details, never tried it but must be filling

juneping

just had dinner...the quinoa was quite filling. but i have to say it feels different from eating meat kind of full.

i eat and love sweet potato but it's not in season anymore...i'll wait when it's in season again.

Headeast

juneping, I am vegetarian (now) and don't eat eggs, sugars, no wheat, no potatoes, no flours, no diary (only the creamer in my coffee), no oils, no salt. I feel full and I have been always a very hungry person.

I think what has helped me is that wothout sugar and salt the food feels less tasty, but also i get full faster.

I am still eating tons of salads and fruits, a banana in the morning. I use salsa and guacamole as my dressing and vinegar. I have lost 20 lbs (i gained 30 during chemo).

I read the book Dr Fuhrman wrote Eat to Live and I am feeling really good with this diet. Sometimes The only thing I miss is my Sauvignon Blanc!

abigail48

there's no statistics on those who've eaten only real sugars, none refined

gemini4

hi Headeast, congrats on the weight loss, and it's great to hear that you're feeling so good with your new way of eating. One question ... Why no oil?  I know there are some really crappy oils that we should all avoid, but what about healthy unrefined oils?  I see you're eating avocados, are you also eating nuts?

Sorry if it seems like I'm grilling you with the questions ... That's the downside of written communication. :-). I'm just curious, as it's my understanding that we need healthy fats in our diet. 

yogamama

scotch, I don't advocate for any refined sugar.  I certainly recommend a high fiber, INTACT grain, organic, plant-based diet…which is low GI.  Thank for your posting.  I've been in the oncology community for a long time and have heard all too many, without any knowledge of what they where talking about, spout off that oft tossed about  pseudo-fact "sugar feeds cancer".  Why, yes, it does, as it does all the rest of our cells.  I don't want to diminish every bodies effort to take control and make evidence-based dietary changes, that's been my work for a good many years.  It, in my personal experience, it does not render you bullet-proof.  There are many, many facets that impact each of us and we can't pretend to know what the environment is that allowed for cancer to set up shop in any one of us.  We all have different types of cancer cells, too.  What will be effective in one to cause apoptosis, may cause a rapid growth in another.

gemin4- yes, of course, you need fat in your diet.  Choose, as you said, plant-based, high quality fats.

Check www.cancerproject.org 

Momine

Just a heads up that the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine is a group that promotes veganism. Not saying that is bad, but there is a definite agenda.

yogamama

Yes, they do, as well as stopping testing on animals.  The information on diet is entirely evidenced-based.   All citations are listed. 

Lissee

Jessica749  Regarding milk, organic or otherwise.  Human consumption of milk (even organic) has as many as 14 tested substances.

Their breakdown, published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, revealed that cow’s milk contained traces of anti-inflammatory drugs niflumic acid, mefenamic acid and ketoprofen – commonly used as painkillers in animals and people. It also contained the hormone 17-beta-estradiol, a form of the sex hormone oestrogen.

The highest quantities of medicines were found in cow’s milk. Researchers believe some of the drugs and growth promoters were given to the cattle (Non organic), or got into milk through cattle feed, water source or contamination on the farm. 

Factory farming is a big industry, and the milk industry is one of the biggest. Weather its milk or beef, I don't eat it.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/26/california-beef-recall-cancer_n_4861305.html

Finally, My doctor told me it was the single best way to lower my risk of heart disease, diabetes, and cancer.

 http://www.waoy.org/9.html

jessica749

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Headeast

gemini, as yogamama said, high quality fats is what I use for my fat intake. Nuts, avocados, foods you need to digest and that come in raw form. Oils are liquid so I am not having them. 

matsgirlie

Hey! So for everyone that is avoiding Dairy I just wanted to say: watch out for "Carrageenan" it is a carcinogenic thickener found in organic almond milk and coconut creamers and lots of organic dairy like cottage cheese and yogurt!!! Here is the link to an article on it or search the web yourself and see what you find! Scaaarrrryyy!

http://chriskresser.com/harmful-or-harmless-carrag...

Also: be careful about brewing your green tea ahead of time and drinking throughout the day. All of the polyphenols and catechisms are lost after an hour. Better to brew and drink right away. I am a celiac and mostly vegan. I do not eat sugar or simple carbs and very few complex carbs. only organic low glycemic fruits/veggies. no dairy. i make my own almond/flax bread and do alot of juicing. i am barely 5'2" and weigh 109. Ive dropped ALOT of weight on this diet since being diagnosed a little over a month ago. i am ER+ so being thin is good for me. i do drink a cup of coffee in the morning and once in awhile a plain lite latte. i also have a glass (6oz.) or organic red wine (WITH MEALS VERY IMPORTANT as it takes longer for the body to digest with folate) for the reservatol (an amazing antioxidant) found only in red wine maybe a couple days a week. i walk everyday. i take lots of vitamins including curcurmin and vit. D and grapeseed extract etc. love this forum!!! just realized my coffee needs to go as it is plastic!! learning. learning. and finding peace in good eating. lots of raw foods and mediteranean cooking!

abigail48

as I recall carageenan is irish moss.  icelandic moss on the other hand is a remedy for opiate addiction

coffeelatte

I am so allergic to carrageenan it isn't even funny.  I have to carry an Epi-pen because I have had such severe hives from that additive.  It comes from red algae. It is used as a binder like many other of the gums (guar gum, lotus gum) and works great in products. I was experiencing hives that were hard to detect because lunch meat can have it, cottage cheese, yogurt, and yes many brands and/or flavors of almond milk, soy milk, etc. My allergist discovered it through a blood test and he said it was indeed a severe allergy.  I broke out terribly to my favorite candy bar, a Pay Day, unfortunately it too contains carrageenan. Since I now avoid it, I am feeling so much better.

Funny how the body works, I had a hysterectomy with ovaries removed in 2003. I was miserable with hot flashes and night sweats so I tried every brand and form of estrogen available. Unfortunately, I was allergic to every one I tried from patches, pills creams, bio-identical you name it I tried it.  After almost three years, I gave up as I realized the allergy was getting worse and worse. I wonder sometimes if my body was trying to tell me something. I have guilt about it at times because I wonder did I bring on a change in my cells by trying to use a hormone I was obviously allergic to. I will never know.

Also since having a hysterectomy I became completely allergic to all cow's milk. No matter how small of a dose.  I tried eating one Reese's peanut butter cup at Easter and wow = hives. Not fun. It is amazing to me how I went from being not allergic to anything to being allergic to so many food and medications. I do not understand why this has happened. My allergist says it is the environment we live in, but I wonder if they say that because you can't verify it and it is such a general statement. Our bodies are fairly adaptable so I just don't know.

coffeelatte

The posts regarding blood glucose is so interesting.  I have fought type 2 diabetes for many years.  I had to take insulin during both pregnancies many years ago so I have tried to be careful with diet and weight.  I am not at all overweight, but I struggle to get my A1c and fasting blood sugars into the normal range. Once in a while I will have a morning fasting reading below 110 and I get so excited. I then will eat the same foods that day to see if I can have more success but then I will have a fasting reading of 122.  Can't figure it out. Probably other things like the amount of exercise or coffee that day(?). I can eat a cookie before bed and have a good reading the next morning, then I can eat just a small handful of almonds the next night and have a very high reading.  I am so frustrated trying to figure out how to get the reading to be below 100.  Oh well, another thing to work on, right?

I do wonder if the ladies taking Metformin for breast cancer are on to something.  I just do not know.  My primary doctor monitors my A1c readings but so far she has not mentioned Metformin.  Due to so many doctors leaving the field, I will meet with a new primary next month so it will be interesting if this doctor will say something about the readings. My A1c is usually 6.3 to 6.8 so I don't think that is great but I am not sure.

Momine

Coffeelatte, A1c that high seems to me to warrant further action. 6.5 is the threshold for diabetes. Can't you ask for a referral to an endo?

Hope14

http://drsircus.com/medicine/sodium-bicarbonate-ba...

Please read this.

coffeelatte

Thanks Momine, I think I will call the doctor's office next week to see if I can move up the appointment.  I never worried about that number until reading on bc.org how some women are taking Metformin to reduce the glucose levels in the blood in the hopes of preventing a reoccurrence. That grabbed my attention.

matsgirlie

is coffee okay to drink if you are ER/PR+ Her2-????

Septmom

Are avocados  bad if you are ER:PR positive? How about sweet potatoes?

juneping

i read a lot of natural orange colored food/produce are good for us. i like baking sweet potato in the winter time.

Headeast

Coffee and avocados are good

juneping

I just caved....ate about 10 pieces of potato chips. It used to be one of my fav food. And you just can't stop at one. 

I hate this cancer crap....

Akevia

Juneping I'm with you on that. It's sooooo hard!! :-(

exbrnxgrl

Juneping,

If eating ten potato chips now and then makes you happy, why not? I have some major doubts about that causing cancer spread, I have no doubts about the pleasure it gave you.

Caryn

juneping

thank you girls....

the chips were very tasty....i savored every piece of them.