I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Laughing from here.

Suzie what a game. Do you have to be careful what you say around dinkum aussies. My brother will be gloating as he is an All Black fan.

Jackie,  I  certainly have OCD. Not sure if I should make on or wait uintil my post church coffee. We do have filter coffee at church but it often tastes l;ike mud. Decision made - need cooffee now.

I liked the name Shrub too, but it just wasn't quite insulting enough for me. 

C4C - I want to say Ice Tea is an East of the Mississippi thing here.  Not that us Left Coasters and western interior don't drink it, but I never saw it consumed like I did in the Deep South.  Maybe it's the gad awful humitdity there?  We love our Starbucks, Peet's, Coffee People, Has Beans, Human Bean, Dutch Bros, etc., here.  After nearly 45 years of drinking coffee, I had my last cup on Dec 10, 2012.  I wasn't even intending on quitting, but stuff (good) happened and about 5 days into my absent-minded abstinence I noticed I hadn't even thought of coffee.  Never looked back.  Don't get me wrong - nothing unhealthful about the stuff, but it can be an expensive habit, so I took advantage.

Poor Alnold Schwazzenegar...heard his house in SV is threatened.  I know exactly which house that is.  Use to nordic ski right by it.  Believe me, those zillionaires will just rebuild, bigger and fancier.

I saw that G3 - I kept looking for the text of his entire remarks, thinking it must have been sliced and diced to look bad. But it wasn't. He said that. And we all here have had the misfortune to encounter "people" (I use that term loosely in this context) who think exactly that. "I have mine - too bad if you don't have yours. That isn't my problem." UGH.

Sigh.  Lonegan is a far right nut case here in Jersey who crawled out of the pine barrens after killing the Jersey Devil (not mean or evil enough) and has been trying to slime his way into public office for a while. 

Surely that scum bag will not get far in Jersey.

Maybe some Repubs just want to entertain us with a clown show. 

This popped up for my Sunday morning chuckle.

Notself, I agree with you.  I saw someone make a comment on a post I was reading complaining about solar panels on state or municipality owned street lights or poles because they were "ugly."  REALLY?  And they don't want to pay taxes?  You want dark streets?  Unlit signs?  Because lighting streets and signs takes ELECTRICITY.  Someone has to pay for it, and that someone is the municipality.  And someone has to give the municipality money to pay the bills like power and water.  That money comes from taxes.  DUH!

I also saw a billboard a couple weeks ago when DH and I were driving around - "Sun sets.  Wind dies.  But coal is forever."  WTF?  Uh ... coal runs out.  Coal seams run out.  There is a finite amount of coal.  The sun comes back up. The wind comes back up.  And using alternative sources of power will eke out our finite resources for longer, allowing us to develop more efficient alternative sources.  *SIGH* So yeah, let's complain that solar panels are ugly.  smh.  As I have seen frequently in articles and memes - "There is no planet B."

And for all the proponents of nuclear energy, remember -- the big, bad gub'mint has to oversee nuclear power plants.  You know, the gub'mint you hate?  The one you don't want to pay for?  The "useless regulations" and "useless bureaucracy?"  The taxes you don't want to pay that go to keep you safe?  Not to mention the byproducts in notself's link. 

Yeh, coal is the answer because the mercury that spreads to the air and water comes from coal and mercury lasts forever.

One would think that even wingnuts would want to protect their children and grandchildren, etc.  But, one would be wrong.  The wingnuts can't think beyond today or perhaps the next election.

Telling it like it is (yesterday's address):

President Barack Obama used his weekly address Saturday to blast Republicans in Congress who have pledged to attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act and risk a government shutdown.

Obama denounced the "group of Republicans in Congress" who he said are "working hard to confuse people, and making empty promises that they’ll either shut down the health care law, or, if they don’t get their way, they’ll shut down the government."(Edited to add: including T.Cruz)

"Think about that.  They’re actually having a debate between hurting Americans who will no longer be denied affordable care just because they’ve been sick – and harming the economy and millions of Americans in the process," Obama said. "And many Republicans are more concerned with how badly this debate will hurt them politically than they are with how badly it’ll hurt the country."

He added, "Your health insurance isn’t something to play politics with.  Our economy isn’t something to play politics with.  This is not a game.  This is about the economic security of millions of families."

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Actually, Cruz apparently has a photographic memory, so perhaps his IQ isn't as high as his college grades would seem to indicate.  His EQ is obviously in the lower double digit area....

Carnival Cruz.  Fantastic - we gotta keep track of all these wonderful names.

what notself said.  again. 

WHAT?  WHAT?  WHAT?  "close the golf courses" - those ridiculous guzzlers of land and water, almost as bad as lawns, well, maybe worse.  Rant over.  I am BIG INTO Edible yards, gardens, wild flower meadows, anything but grass ( cut, mowed, feed with chemicals that then go on to pollute the water tables..) oops, sorry, thought rant was over

In their inability to accept the reality of the 2012 elections, the Republican Party has already come out in favor of not holding debates on news networks. Now, the news is circulating that the RNC has come out in favor of letting right-wing radio hosts moderate the 2016 GOP debates.

Of course, last week Rush Limbaugh argued that the Republican party should only debate in front of a controlled audience, namely Fox News, calling any actual news agency biased. Here’s the video:

Except, once his idea was accepted by the RNC leadership, Rush ran away from it, claiming that he would overshadow the candidates. Here’s that video:

Without journalists to moderate, one can only imagine what will happen at the debates. They will become part of the right-wing echo chamber. With a neo-conservative moderator (Limbaugh, Hannity or Levin) focusing on himself rather than the debate, it will surely turn off mainstream voters. After all, it was not the right-wing darlings who won the primaries, but moderate Mitt Romney, who had to fight extreme right-wing pressure to maintain the few moderate credentials he had left after the debates.

But, with “all neo-con all the time,” the 2016 debates would become a race to the bottom rather than an opportunity for viewers to “meet” the candidates. Sure, by controlling the moderators the GOP can control the message, but those moderators would likely give pre-approved softball questions, leaving the voters none the wiser about the candidates they might vote for.

And that is precisely what the Republican Party wants. They don’t want the voters to know the candidates. They want to pick the candidates, decide how they will be presented in the media. The party bosses do not want to risk the unpredictability of real debates, fearing a serious challenge to their establishment. Instead, they will be dog and pony shows, illusions, a series of farces rolled out before cameras to show off to the base.

The problem is, this will result in rolling out candidates who are not functional in the real election. They will not be prepared for real moderators, real questions. This reminds us how out of touch the Republican leadership is. They refuse to accept that their base is rapidly vanishing and the party itself is in a death spiral, diminishing in national influence. While they do hold a state majority, in terms of people represented, they are lagging far behind the Democrats. And even self-proclaimed conservatives are turning out to be more liberal than their predecessors. The situation as it exists will not sustain the Republican Party in its current state.

How many more elections do they have to lose before they recognize that they must liberalize or die?

Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/18/republican-leadership-proposes-using-right-wing-radio-hosts-for-gop-debates-in-2016/#ixzz2cL5rZJAD

Wasn't it PT Barnum who said  that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public?  I think the current crop of Republican politicans have taken that to heart.  I do not believe that they are as stupid as they sound.  I think it's worse - that they are cynically exploiting voter gullability and preying on prejudice to advantage themselves.