I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited August 2013

    gg:  Yes, that IS KonaKat with the pink wig and the boyfriend!

    Jackie:  You always express yourself so well and so eloquentlySmile.

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited August 2013

    I have not posted in months, and was prepared yesterday morning to update all and catch up with everyone.



    Then I read about Athena. OMG!, WTH!, Damn it to tarnation and back! All I could hear resonating throughout the day was a world wide collective sorrowful roar from all feline creatures. Lions, Tigers, Panthers, Ferals, all in one long and repeating wail! And of course memories of the day this world lost the beauty of KK.



    I'll be back soon, or maybe a little later. Going to find my safe place and lick myself in sorrow until the pain begins to lessen. I love you all, and this is a collective, real, and very strong pain in ATHENA's pride. I will so miss the fashion shows!



    See you all soon. On the outskirts, trying to make sense of it, and hoping the heartache will lessen. Must remember the joy, the passion, and the hearty ROAR of our lioness!

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    Hope you're doing well scuttlers.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Hi, scuttlers - there is NO SENSE.  No sense, don't waste a second of your precious time trying to find it - honest,  am deeply convinced it's a crap shoot. We all do whatever we can, as best we can, and let the chips ride.  I join everyone in saying HOW GOOD IT IS TO SEE YOU - and hope, prayers, lots of good wishes for YOUR BEING WELL....

    gg - maybe I'm older than many ( 68 years young) but I've chosen NOT to allow people in my space/life who are not nuturing, kind, supportive, open, positive, did I mention kind.  Many of my friends have very (vurry, vurry) different "political" ideas - but all those other characteristics make it always INTERESTING, informative, a wonderful learning experience - and I appreciate it so much.

    Just won't allow the snide, cracks, "ain't it awful" people even email access.  Kinda like having a wonderful "block access" button in life!  I turn off the attacks on OBAMACARES - it's too valuable, too wonderful to think of no lifetime limits, no pre-existing conditions, welcome all the rest of the USA to MA.Wink With thanks to  governor mitt romney for getting it established here.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    Hi Sunny.  I'm 63, so you've got a couple years on me, but not that many.  :)  I don't want to post TOO much PI on this public site - and for a supposed cyber security geek, I post far too much...  BUT, what friendships I have are far too valuable to me to allow a difference in political opinion stop me from continued communication (even when they attempt to convert me Laughing as if!!!  Laughing).  I have in the past attempted to turn the tables on them, thinking (foolishly) that accurate information would have an impact. Embarassed  Silly me.  But I am not a person who is strictly one anything - so, though progressive in many areas, I am not in all.  If I was going to "rate" my position, it would be moderate - but, of course, what used to be moderate is now considered by many to be screamingly liberal, so I don't really attempt to define myself anymore. 

    I do now (well, usually) simply delete missives regarding the "terror" of the Obama presidency, as it just ticks me off to no end.  A lot of the things they think Obama did were actually done by other Presidents altogether, and the way they talk about the Presidency makes it sound like it's an appointment from God (but of course, only if a Republican won the election... Laughing). 

    I keep hoping that sanity will catch hold, but I don't think it's contagious.

    KonaKat looks like she was a kick.  I wish I would have "met" her.

    Scuttlers, please come back after you've recovered from the awful news.  We have missed you.

    Jackie - I love the way you express yourself, so please don't be down on you. 

    C4C - I'm really looking forward to viewing the exchanges.  Right now I'm planning on using COBRA rates for insurance until hubby and I reach Medicare age.  But if the exchanges turn out to be a better deal, it's possible though unlikely, as using COBRA has some other advantages for us, that we'll move in that direction. 

    We sign for our house tonight, and by COB on Friday, will once again be homeowners!! I am so happy with this house and community. 

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited August 2013

    GG- Congrats on the new house.  Nice to have something positive going on.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    GG - congratulations - A NEW HOME. YEAH!

    I do have friends with VERY different political ideas - and we often talk politics - we're just always observant of each others feelings.  Not trying to "convince" each other of different positions - kinda like the Congress of the USA used to be - lots of folks were friends, civil, even with different "positions" on issues.  Long lost days...

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    Oh yeah, I get you now. Some of my friends are as you say. Others not.



    It's my experience that my religious friends are always attempting to convert me. As o used to do - well - the same thing, I totally understand that they are not doing it out of meanness, but rather from a standpoint of providing what they see as god's truth/word, but nonetheless they make me crazy.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited August 2013

    I have reached a comfortable detente with my religious relatives.  They do not try to get me to be a religious Jew, and I don't bring bacon into their homes.  Seems to work.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2013

    Alexandria, you sound just like my agnostic Jewish DH! Laughing

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    Sunny, we are close in age.  I will be 68 in September.  Funny thing though....just a short while ago it seemed I was barely over 30 multi-tasking like a wild woman, and now and then thinking that the age I have now reached ( at least at the time ) seemed as though it would be rather ancient and pretty much used up.

    Happy to report...that is not the case at all.  I of course, no longer multi-task.  Hey, its hard work walking with coffee cup in hand to my computer room whereupon I can contemplate my gravity defying feat for some time whilst I figure out just what to do first.  Usually a few sips of coffee will rouse me to action, and I'll wake up the computer. 

    Just kidding about some of that.  I really did somehow get from my 30's to here in warp speed while I was busy with many projects.  It has many comforts though.  We are empty nesters and can for the most part suit ourselves here.  I don't have enough gray hair to bother dying it yet and if it continues to be slow, I may never bother.  I can still work...though slower, but as well I can still laugh easily --- unfortunately as yesterday reminded me, tears can come quite quicly as well. 

    I can take joy in a sunny morning, or watching a herd of deer meander through the woods, or be tickled watching the lightning bugs hovering above the grass in the yard just as darkness falls.  I'm old enough to feel certain for myself that things happen for a reason -- even if we don't know what the reason is, and be extremely grateful for looking back long enough to see things that put me on the path to being where I am now.  I am firmly convinced that I am exactly where I was meant to be. 

    Speaking of which....has anyone ever heard darkness fall??? 

    Alexandria...loved what you said about your relatives knowing better than to attempt making you a religious Jew, while you pay them the ultimate kindness of not supplying them with breakfast bacon. 

    Jackie

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited August 2013

    I have no conservative relatives. Of course, I only have one living brother and a couple nieces and a nephew. One cousin seems to be conservative (on FB), but she asks me about the nuttier crap that comes in her newsfeed and seems to understand the debunking. I have unfriended most of the RWNJ people from high school on FB, and I have blocked the newsfeeds of the ones I might like to retain. All of my formerly conservative friends are now Democrats, with the exception of my one reliably Republican friend (who is actually an ex-boyfriend). Just last week he said he didn't have a political home anymore - hadn't since the Cheney Administration. He is conservative but he agrees with ZERO percent of today's regressive party. So he is sort of lost in the wilderness, because he will not call himself a Republican because that implies the sanctions any of the party's hateful and vicious platform and positions.



    And that is how I deal with right-wingers in my family and friends circle. And while I know religiously observant people, they all know me well enough to know that trying to get me to become religiously observant would be much less successful for them than trying to grow wings.



    L

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited August 2013

    Seems there are a lot of us baby boomers here. I'm on the late side just turning 62 in June.



    I'm not boring today. Breathing troubles this week took me in for tests and they discovered a pulmonary embolism. Scared the bejezus out of me. This cancer crap sucks.



    I'm gonna go watch some Big Bang Theory. Need some laughs.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited August 2013

    CHICK!!! What are they going to do about it?!!



    L

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited August 2013

    Hi all

    Was almost in tears as I sat in my local cafe and had my coffee. Sad about Athena and then remembering Konakat. In my address book I drew a little picture of funny angel cat by her address. And also sad that yesterday I met a local lass in her mid thirties who has BC and it looks like mets. I hate cancer.

    I am a baby boomer as well.

    GG so pleased about the house.

    Chick you get better now you hear.

    OK sort of silly question what is the weather going to be like in September? I don't know what to pack. Will be in NY, New England and PA first 10 days then in Ontario.
    Hot, cold or in between?

    At the moment my gripe is about literalist Christians who don't want anyone to express a view different from theirs, ggrrrr.

    Hugs

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited August 2013

    GG - congrats on the house, but what time is COB on Friday? is there a drink involved?

    Alyson - you can count on, well, nothing in particular because September varies. Likely there will be cold nights maybe down to almost freezing and warm days. You'll need a warmish jacket or coat and some warm weather clothes in case it is one of those warm Septembers.

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited August 2013

    RL, injectable blood thinner(lovenox) for 24 days. My DH agreed to spare me my squeamishness and do the shot for me each day.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited August 2013

    Oh, Chick, I hope it goes well and doesn't hurt too much. I had lovenox in the hospital after my DIEP before I could get out of bed. They couldn't give it to me in my stomach because of the DIEP, so they gave it in my thigh. I'm anxious for you!



    L

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited August 2013

    (((( Chickadee))))   Sending  hugs and hopes that you become boring soon.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited August 2013

    Chickadee - I'm surprised you weren't kept in hospital. I had a pulmonary embolism in December and it included five nights at hospital. (Probably proof that these things appear in a wide variety of ways).  Afterwards I had to do those shots on my own for a week or more - well, a nurse came to help the first couple of times. I was amazed to find that it wasn't so bad and also that it was a good time to have a good sized belly. Good luck with it all.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited August 2013

    Haven't been here in a long time -- reading more than posting -- Libby, thank you for your presence and your words at Athena's funeral -- I'm positive you gave her family a great gift by going.



    As for me, words fail me. I've been re-reading a lot of Athena's words -- and she truly had a way with them! Sending love her way.



    And to all of us here.



    (Chickadee -- hope the lovenox works its magic and the embolism gives you no more trouble at all)

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited August 2013

    Wednesday was my chemo day and after a nice long benadryl nap, I'm now on my decadron high. Still reeling from the news about Athena and feeling comforted by reading your posts on FB and BCO. Libby, thank you so much for taking us all along in your purse. I really felt that I was at the service after reading your beautiful memories of the day. I can see how you felt it was a gift to be there but I feel the most important gift was the one you gave to her family. How wonderful that you could speak and share of her friendships here. I can only imagine how they will treasure your words as they grieve their loss.



    I'm proud to be 62, Democrat, Methodist and an Obama lover. Coming from a family of mostly republicans (and a lot of close friends, too) has taught me that it is sometimes just less stressful to keep my mouth shut. I don't share my beliefs often, so it is good to be able to come here, and see that they are validated by some very intelligent, well-spoken women!



    Lastly, I'm so happy that our "E" got some good news and there is no organ involvement, happy GG will have a new home on Friday, worried about Chicakadee, and eager to hear more from Scuttlers. I love being a part of this loving, caring pride.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited August 2013

    Good morning, pridemates -

    Happy new home, GG!  I hope it's everything you wished for.  :-)

    Chicky - Horrified at your pulmonary embolism, and also surprised that they didn't rush you to a hospital bed.  I hope the treatment works well with no complications.  I swear, this cancer stuff - if it's not one thing, it's your mother.

    Glenna - I share your pride though I am a RINO at this point, which I consider the slightly right-of-center conservative of just 10 years ago.  No religious affiliation though I'm always looking for the one that will convince me of a creator and his/her love for its creations.

    Still in mourning for our Athena and I think I always will be.  How I wish she'd come up for Farmageddon though I know she was in a lot of pain at the time.  Still, I think she would have enjoyed the fellowship.  We all donned wild animal masks in her honor though she never got to see the photos.  

    Hope everyone has a good day.  I'm off for more doctor's appointments, work, and wig-shopping.  Yay for Tykerb-related hair loss!  Blurrrrgh.

    E

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    Glenna - I wish I was better at keeping my mouth shut - I'm certain it would make my life (and hubby's!!) easier.  However, it seems that when my blood starts to boil I'm like a tea kettle and make noise!

    Linda - COB is close of business.  :)  There will be a bottle of wine involved that evening, I'm certain.  Now that we're home owners again, I'm all stressed out about money and retirement and bills and eating and and and..  Hubby is attempting (futilely it seems) to calm me down.  He tells me that even if all we have to eat is rice and eggs, that it's still important for me to retire.  He's correct, I know.  I just stew.

    Chickadee - big hugs.  Pulmonary embolisms are scary - my bout with tamoxifen gave me multiples plus a DVT.  I had fragmin shots for a week - and spent a couple days in the hospital as well.  Are they going to put you on warfarin after the lovenox?

    You ladies are so important to me.

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited August 2013

    Staring at a blinking cursor. Not much good has happened this week. I think I am bottoming out.



    Glad they didn't put me in hospital. Guess they don't always now.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    I hate hospitals and am glad you aren't stuck in one.  This has been a tough week.  Try to get some rest.  Big hugs.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited August 2013

    Oh Chick...and E...and I like it so much better when you are boring.Frown

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Chick - how monstrously terrifying - you are so fortunate the docs FOUND it - and in time to do something. That is BIG TIME scarey stuff.  So glad you didn't have to be in hospital, and have such a special DH helper too.

    JACKIE: I just want to make sure in the "r-u-s-h" of postings that everyone has a sceond chance to read what you wrote:

    Jackie's words: "I can take joy in a sunny morning, or watching a herd of deer meander through the woods, or be tickled watching the lightning bugs hovering above the grass in the yard just as darkness falls.  I'm old enough to feel certain for myself that things happen for a reason -- even if we don't know what the reason is, and be extremely grateful for looking back long enough to see things that put me on the path to being where I am now.  I am firmly convinced that I am exactly where I was meant to be."

    Those are some of the most wonderful words I've read in a long, long, long time.  Being 68 years young I also know how much WORK, self understanding, patience, and more thoughtful work, goes into being able to write those words and to LIVE THEM. 

    Thank you SO MUCH for writing them, and for reminding us (early, on the cusp) baby boomers what a blessing it is to still be able to live and read those words -

    I read about the rare Sumatran tigers born at the Washington DC National Zoo yesterday, and while crying,  also thought of many of my Buddhist friends, and of the picture of the Lion Jackie posted yesterday, and of Our Lionness....Rare Sumatran Tigers born, 2 cubs, and yes, I named them in my mind, Konakat & Athena.

    I'll go find the link to post, am so techiedumb, still can't post a pic...

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited August 2013

    Chickadee ... So very sorry to hear you have to have those injections.  Brenda (Naniam) went through the same thing, but she has to take the shots forever.  She said she's running out of placing to poke the needle.

    Gumby ... Great news about the new house.  Hope all goes smoothly tomorrow.

    Enjoyful ... I am really sorry that f---ing Tykerb took your hair.  It makes me mad.  I didn't realize that was a side-effect of Tykerb.  How's Sampson?  Have you been able to ride this week?

    Glenna ... I wondered why you were posting FIVE hours before I got up this morning, especially since we're in the same time zone!  That decadron high sucks.  I wouldn't mind it for a few hours in the afternoon, but not at 3:00 in the morning!

    hugs to all,

    Bren

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    Afternoon one and all.  Chick...I too am sorry you have to do the injections, but the alternative is well, you know -- not pleasant at all.  I think you are likely better at home.  Hospitals tend to have too many sick people and far, far too many germs roaming around free to sometimes visit the un-suspecting or defenseless.  If you must be there....so be it, but home is better.

    Ah...the tiger cubs and now they have beautiful names.  They are adorable.  Of course, I'm quite fond of felines --- any size, shape, color or sex.  Good thing I don't work at a zoo....I'm sure I'd try getting too friendly with those I love and be the worst for wear. 

    Have been feeding a new one at one of the/my feral stations here.  He is mainly white with a couple of small patches of dark hair on his face by the ears.  His tail though is dark ( silver-tabby tiger striped ) which makes him quite adorable.  Have had some difficulty with him as some of the other ferals pick on him.  ( Male rival thing I think )  He is too skinny and thought about scooping him up and bringing him home but he would have to get used to the dogs here ( who actually adore the cats ) and I've just now got him on a regualr feed and don't want to risk upsetting the balance.  Sigh !!!!   There are too many to be fed in and around my  woods anyway.

    Jackie

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