I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013
  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2013

    I love my Keens and they feel so good on.  A friend of mine even hikes in hers (and they're not a hiking model), they are that comfy.  Another friend told me about this site:  http://www.6pm.com/    If you like the name brand shoes, sometimes you can find them here for 60-70% off, including Keens.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    I've used that site. I also use overstock.com and another one called sierratrading.com I think it is.



    I buy the keens that are good in water for Hawaii as the lava is so wicked many places where we swim. Hubby and I both wear them. He also has keens slippers. I used to always go barefoot in the house but now generally wear birks since my bout with plantar fascitis.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    Linda, Jim was a lot of things, but he sure wasn't ugly. 

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited August 2013

    Well now, let's see. The stock market (both the Dow and the S&P) are at record high levels, unemployment continues to fall, the deficit is falling faster than at any time in history, we have run monthly budget surpluses for five months out of this year, including a record monthly surplus in April. Healthcare costs are going down, insurance companies are giving millions in rebates to consumers and healthcare plans because of the 80/20 rule in the Affordable Care Act, millions now have health insurance who didn't before, millions more will soon have affordable health insurance (in spite of the relentless lies of the regressives) .... The list goes on and on. Of COURSE the regressives have to make up fake scandals because they have learned that if they repeat things loudly and shrilly and long that a certain gullible portion of the population will believe them and pick it up as an echo chamber. They got nuthin' .... They just have to make up crap. They have nothing of substance to offer, so they have to talk smack and lie. And they have no new ideas to offer, so they hurl insults because they have nothing else to do.



    Meh. They aren't even original.



    We have better things to talk about and celebrate here, like President Obama's birthday.



    L



  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited August 2013

    Crazy and Sun:  It is not having flat feet that causes the pain - it's the fact that you've worn shoes all your lives.  There are studies of indigenous populations that have never worn shoes - and in those populations, feet may or may not have arches the way we think of them, yet any of the foot problems that are so common in shoe wearing populations are rare if not- non-existent.

    Just anectodotally: I also have extremely flat feet, especially my left one.  For the past twenty years, I was in constant pain.  I spent thousands on orthotics and podiatrists, and I still couldn't walk a city block without pain. I also had such severe knee pain that I was considering knee replacement. Quite accidentally, because I was sick and just didn't bother to put on shoes, I went barefoot for a week.  I first noticed that my knees were feeling better.  I researched the subject, read all the more recent articles on the damage that shoes do to our feet, and decided to try slowly going more and more barefoot, since all the othotics and all the supportive shoes have really done nothing for me.  I have now been barefoot about 80 percent of the time for almost two months.  I can walk a mile without pain, I can walk up and down stairs.  I do put on shoes or sandals for ashphalt in hot weather; I will wear them as to not embarrass my husband in social situations, and I do wear them into barns.  However, my knees and feet feel twenty years younger.

    Oh, and my podiatrist told me NEVER to go barefoot.

    Here's some links to the research.

    This is a podiatrist who did a study of non-shoe wearing populations i china and India in 1949.  http://refs.ahcuah.com/papers/shulman.htm

    Research on the history of footwear. 

    https://sites.google.com/a/stevenrobbinsmd.com/stevenrobbinsmd/home/history-of-footwear---fact-and-ficton

    Article in NY magazine on shoes and shoe wearing.  I disagree with this one a bit, because he seems to think wearing Vivo Five-Fingers is as good as barefoot.  Still, useful information.

    http://nymag.com/health/features/46213/

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Alexandria - fascinating - gonna read the links.

    Blue - anyone who thinks HE isn't the MOST gorgeous human being, ain't worth reading - but I've said that b4. THOSE LIPS.  Ah, well, what gives me the giggles is that they even READ what we write. Some folks just seem to need fodder for their cynicism. Sad, sad, sad...

    Naot is also very comfortable, but I'm happiest in Keens.  Esp the Presidios.

    So missing Our Lioness, we need our Fashion Fix. 

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited August 2013

    Alexandria -- Interesting articles!  One thing stood out in the Asian people's article:  don't encourage a child to walk too early.  Well, I had 3 older sisters who had me walking at 8 months -- no wonder my arches didn't develop!!!

    My biggest problem with going shoeless or wearing sandals is that I'm rather clumsy and prone to little accidents.  I stubbed my big toe over 3 weeks ago, and it's still slightly swollen and painful.  My chiro checked it out to ensure it wasn't broken, but the way I was walking (to favour it) made the previously injured MC ligament in my knee start to hurt again!  You know that old song about bones connected to each other?  Well, SO true, in more ways than one!

    Athena -- we're ALL missing you!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited August 2013

    Actually, I think the main recommendation of the article as to children was to have them walk barefoot for as long as possible to develop strong feet.  I suspect your sisters had you walking in baby shoes, too.

    Yeah, I'm kind of a klutz, too, but I noticed that I stubbed toes a lot more when I only went barefoot on occasion in the house.  Being barefoot all the time, I'm more aware of my feet, where I'm putting them, and, since my feet are stronger than they were before, I'm a lot surer on my feet than I used to be.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    RL....everything you said.  I'm easily bored so all the un-substantive idiocy and the lunacy of continually picking the President and others apart just becomes completely inane in its uselessness.  Joanne Whorlly  ( SP??? ) comes to mind and her BORRRRRING.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2013

    My first DD never crawled. She stood up at 7 months and hung onto furniture as she "walked," or more like took a couple of steps and fell, got up and repeated the process. Drove this poor mom crazy trying to corall her and/or keep her from busting her head open! She absolutely HATED being confined in a play pen. Sigh. Anyway, at 9 months she was walking unassisted. All during her childhood she rebelled against wearing shoes, unless we were going somewhere that required them. The second DD was just the opposite. She was a late walker, but early talker, and did not like to feel anything but shoes on her feet when she walked. Strange how kids can be so different.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2013

    Love that we can talk about shoes and the benefits of going barefoot!  Atleast Fox News didn't tell me to talk about it :)   Like who really cares about what is on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine until someone like Rupert Murdoch or Rush Limbugh told me it is something I should care about?  Feetsies are something we all have and are oh so important.

    Sunny - all of the talk of Keens and I bought 3 pairs yesterday (I had not dipped into my annual shoe budget yet).  Unfortuneately, Toyah MJ's seem to be on the outs.  I hope they will produce more - my favorites.

    Athena - I miss you.  I hope you are okay.  I selfishly would love to hear from you. 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2013

    Sunday funny! Laughing

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    Yaaaawwnnnnnn!

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2013

    Hi Girls - been relaxing post visitors leaving - Poppy is now back to normal.

    We have our election date!! 7th September - can't wait to get rid of the current trash.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited August 2013

    Alexandria, I have never been keen on wearing shoes. As a kid, I ran barefoot most of the summer. The last 10-15 years I usually wear traditional, Greek, leather flip-flops from May till October. It is not very different from being barefoot. In the winter I wear boots a lot, since they do not squeeze my feet.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013
  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited August 2013

    Lot of reading to catch up on this morning.

    LOL about wearing shoes. Shoes usually come off here for 'open homes' and some people seem to remove their shoes in the house. I ask and will if they want me to. Anyway here it is very common for children not to wear shoes and many adults go around without shoes especially around the house and outside. My DS hardly wore shoes until he went to school and even then only wore then when he had to. We don't have many 'nasties' in this country - no snakes or scorpions or things like that.

    I have dark wood flooring in my kitchen and even though it looks great it needs constant cleaning because every crumb shows up. We have pure wool carpets in the rest of the house which are low allergy because dust mites cannot live in wool and you cannot inhale the fibres which you can from synthetic carpet.  I know people don't agree but its other fluff and allergens that get me.

    Suzie i heard the news of your election we will be watching with interest.

    Must get moving, have to organise somethings this morning - like getting some money on our cards for our trip, less than three weeks now and i am strangely nervous this time.

    Hope you are having/had a good weekend.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    I'm always barefoot!  Have been all my life.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013
  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited August 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    "Game of Thrones" author George R.R. Martin has been praised for his ability to write believable, three-dimensional female characters. Why do so many writers skip George's really basic first step?

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited August 2013

    My adorable chubby Kiki enjoying her new window perch.

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