I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    Oh, Athena, I HEAR YOU ( OUR) ROAR.  Perhaps only someone who has fully danced on/near that "egde" can later find humour, one of my favorite women, Dorothy Parker, knows of what she wrote, in her poem Resume:

    Resumé


    Razors pain you;
    Rivers are damp;
    Acids stain you;
    And drugs cause cramp.
    Guns aren't lawful;
    Nooses give;
    Gas smells awful;
    You might as well live.


    Dorothy Parker

     

    Your experience with some meds, sounds a bit like mine years ( and years) ago with Effexor...which is why when the wonderful psychopharmacologist said I could go on Tamoxifen and take Effexor - I laughed so hard I nearly choked in her office at Harvard Medical School - had learned b4 to carry my asthma inhaler with me, whipped it out, used it, and she made me LAUGH, really LAUGH, after with her very good natured, "well, I guess not."  One of the real joys for me of being older, happy with Medicare, is really being able to laugh AT myself, WITH myself, and allow others to do the sameKiss

     

    Dear Lioness, you & your docs will figure this one out.. be as gentle with yourself as you can be in the process..

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2013

    HAPPY MOTHERS' DAY!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    You are so right, Carrots:

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2013
  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited May 2013

    We also want to wish you all a peaceful and happy Mother´s Day!

    ---The Mods

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited May 2013

    I hope that everyone is having a Happy Mother's Day!

    Athena, it sounds like you are in good hands with your medical team. Sending hopes and wishes that they're able to effectively manage any side effects.

    Edited for spelling

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited May 2013

    Athena, It's good to have you back.  I missed you.  

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited May 2013

    Athena, I am so glad to see you back and posting in English! Though I could read the gibberish, too. 

    After almost 2 weeks of sun and higher than normal temperatures here in Seattle, Mother's Day is proving to be be overcast and drizzly. If only the rain had waited one more day.

    Mary

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited May 2013

    Happy Mother's Day to all the moms and dogmothers and catmothers!  Hope you're all enjoying the day.  My son called earlier and it was so wonderful to hear his voice.  I also got to talk to my beautiful grandsons.  Sure do miss them.

    hugs,

    Bren

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited May 2013

    Athena, so good to log in and see you posting.  I'm so impressed with your resolve . . . and am hoping, first, that your medical team can make the tamoxifen gentle on you; and second, that it kicks the hell out of your mets.

    SuzieQ, so terribly sorry about your friend's son.  Cancer seems especially unfair when it hits someone so young. 

    My on-again-off-again cold is mostly off-again, but I was coughing so hard for so long that my chest is really messed up.  I think I have, at best, a pulled muscle . . . at worst, a cracked rib.  I'm going to sleep on it tonight, see how it feels in the morning, then think seriously about having it checked out.  I've been resisting going to the doctor because it feels like I just finished up a whole boatload of appointment . . . mammogram, checkup with my oncologist, screening colonoscopy . . . and I was looking forward to a respite. 

    L

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Thanks mods for the Mother's Day wishes and hope you had a wonderful one ( still going on ) as well.

    Jackie

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2013

    Thanks girls - it is really sad - hope they get the best onc they can.

  • patti13
    patti13 Member Posts: 89
    edited May 2013

    athena...so welcome you back..

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    Lewing - I know just how you feel about not wanting to go to the doc for a "cough" - it took me about 2 months - and I wish I had gone sooner - I was concerned about taking antibiotics, I'm alergic to so many - and found out I had inflammation in my lungs, probably effected by so much coughing too - and a steroid inhaler has really helped.

    But I was just adamant I'd "wait it out" after the flu had passed, and I just did NOT want another doctor visit - I'm sorry I let myself get so sick.  PLEASE GO TO THE DOCTOR.  You'll be relieved once you've gone, and gotten what ever it takes to get your LUNGS in good working order.  Breathing without coughing is really worth it Wink

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited May 2013

    Good morning everyone. Here is one way in which being a condemned cancer patient is infinitely superior to being a death row inmate or even prisoner in the general population:

    ---life is still as busy and as full of uncertainties - at least I can say that while still feeling good. I am still wearing a neck brace and somewhat limited from surgery and pain, but I am improving, I have loads of appointments to make, items to complete on my to-do list (none involving the mortuary - at least yet) and uncertainties. The mysteries of daily life remain.

    That's better that lying on a prison bunk bed crossing off days with a piece of chalk between one's feet.

    I also find I have a better array of choices between working, studying or going on disability (not something I want to do).

    Brain dropping the day: dying of cancer may be better for you than breaking and entering. Tongue Out

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2013

    ((((((((((((Athena))))))))))) - glad you are feeling a bit better.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited May 2013

    Welcome back, Athena!  So good to hear your voice again.

    I have a bone scan today; blood work, echocardiogram, and CT scans tomorrow, and hopefully start the clinical trial Thursday.  Athena - would you be interested in it?  It combines Tykerb and Aromasin for ER+, HER2- cancer.  I can send you more information if you'd like.

    In other news, I kinda sorta have a boyfriend.  We've agreed to not-date for now as both of us agree that the tortoise beats the hare.  So, we've had several non-dates including his appearance at our Mother's Day picnic yesterday.  (He even brought me a flowering cactus, figuring that even I couldn't kill a cactus.  Little does he know.)  He's also one of my bosses.  Naughty me.  ;-)

    NaughtE

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited May 2013

    P.S.  I bought and assembled a grill yesterday morning in time for Mother's Day festivities.  During assembly, I managed to stab myself in the thumb with a knife.  Don't ask.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited May 2013

    E - I'll drop the trial and try out the boyfriend idea - yey - how wonderful, and going slowly is best. So happy for you!!!! Good things happen to....etc.... Send us a kinda sorta pic when you can....

    Also best of luck on the scans. I hope the doctor either goes by the results or orders new ones. I was a bit unconfortable by his assumption (think you wrote this a few pages ago) about parts being cancer and the scan being a false negative. Yes, we have cancer, but you also have a history of taking meds that affect the bones, you exercise, etc.... so other more mundane things could be going on. So I am relieved to hear about this even though scanxiety is from hell.

    Hugs back at you, Suzie!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited May 2013

    E - hope all goes well. 

    I think bringing you a cactus for Mother's Day kicks the not-quite-boyfriend thing up a notch. 

    Athena - thinking of you.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited May 2013

    Athena, it is like full time job to have freakin' cancer. People don't seem to appreciate that aspect at all. But yeah, it still beats death row.

    E, you are a very bad girl, for which I am delighted. As for that mojo thing, I am finding that there is some improvement lately. May it be the same for you.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    Athena - really optimistically expecting you to have years of mystery ahead, including a boyfriendSmile Sounds like a good plan.

    E - you CAN kill a cactus, don't water too much....SO lovely to think of you with a boyfriend, tortoise/hare, boss, no matter, if he likes YOU, he's gotta be a good person.  We all admire his choice.  Hope all this gives you great things to think about during all these to be BORING tests.

    Spring, where did it go? 35 this am. Even after years here, it's still hard to adjust to June 1 being the last frost date. But it's still bettere than cicadas....surprised to learn they are expected in southern CT- didn't think they got that far north. Seriously, if the brood ever comes here, I'm moving.  They don't bite - but they DO lay their eggs in slits they make in the very fine branches of fruit trees -

    MA has yet another Senate election next month, the robo calls have started. Ugh.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Good morning to everyone.  Of course I am agreeing heartily with you Athena -- you do have many possibilities about what you can do in your predicament while a condemned person has so very few.  At least I think that is what I read.  Lots of choices for good possibilities -- I see good in that.

    E -- I think you and your friend have picked one of the best kinds of dating....not really dates keeps expectations at a level where they can be handled, and all the burdens from HAVING to preform in certain ways and have certain feelings about it all just doesn't get put there.  It is wide open that way and can function without strings.

    Some of the best times I ever had were the ones that like me were just coming from a "broken" relationship and we had no intention of being serious. 

    lewing....pay some attention to Sunflowers. 

    Suzie....

    Hope you are all having good weather -- back up to 70's here after a fairly cool day yesterday.  A bit scary....due to be 93 tomorrow.  Sure hope we aren't going to have a repeat of last yr's summer. 

    Jackie

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
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    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
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  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited May 2013

    Athena - so VERY happy to see you back, and at the same time so sorry to hear the mets are real.  Take wonderful care of yourself, and hopefully find that boyfriend.

    CrazE - Kiss hopefully many kisses for the new cactus-giving-not-quite-boyfriend-boyfriend.  Have you been on Sampson yet?  Good luck with the trial - I hope it beats the @#$%^ out of the cancer cells and harms not a hair on your head (or anything else, for that matter).

    Suzie - so sorry to hear of your friend's son.  Cancer sucks.

    Lewing - bite the bullet and get thee to a doctor.  Not being able to breathe is NOT a good thing.  Coughing so hard you may have broken a rib is a REALLY not good thing.  Channel good health!!!

    I've been busy lately.  We are still house shopping - our agent was out of town over the weekend, and as a result we missed out on two possibilities.  Unfortunately houses are going REALLY FAST in this area right now.  Hopefully we'll find one over the next few weeks, as I think hubby is about to lose it.  His energy for looking is simply gone.  We'll see what happens....  We saw one yesterday, that if they would take about $35,000 less than they are asking could be possible - but it's TINY and needs some significant changes made.  We'll see.  Have I mentioned that I simply CANNOT understand how some people live?  We looked at a house yesterday - and literally had to manuever through aisles of stacked up junk in VERY DARK spaces to see any portion of the house.  Hubby is still coughing from the dog dander, dust and mold.... 

    Hope everyone had a wonderful mother's day.  We got to see our son last week, as he had to come to the NW on business - so we sneaked in a couple of visits as well - so I had mother's day early Smile.  Unfortunately, his family couldn't come with him - but maybe next time.  We are planning on visiting them in November - though right now, hubby is talking about going in July as well, so whatever works out.  I'm pretty fluid. 

    The gorgeous weather we had last week is over.  In our end of town we didn't get any drizzles until 8PM yesterday, but I understand that some areas saw rain sooner.  We're forecast for showers over the next couple days and then back to some good weather - but at least we're into high's in the sixties - not fifties - so spring is solidly rooted here in the Pacific Northwest now - hopefully it will usher in a beautiful summer.  I visited Costco yesterday and bought a new fan, as our townhouse turns into a hotbox when the weather is warm, and I figured we'd need one - probably should have bought two..... one for each floor.  But who knows - maybe we'll find a house before summer begins... HA

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited May 2013

    Athena - you certainly deliver the nuggets that brighten my day.  I look forward to hearing ad nauseum about your to-do's, uncertainties and getting your own cactus.  

    E - splendid, Sampson and a man.  This is starting to look like a Romance novel cover.Laughing  Oh, the tests...Momine is so right - cancer is a full time job.

    Sunny - we are always advised to never plant tomatoes until after June 1, or when the snow is off the north side of Black Butte.  This year, there's hardly been any snow on Black Butte ...the last few days in the 80's....so hard to resist planting now.  My kale garden is doing well though.  Cicadas...I've heard of them; sounds like something I would detest.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited May 2013

    Thank you everyone - what an honor it is to receive so much affection from so many wonderful sisters.

    Blue: great postcard!~ Couldn't agree more.

    Lewing - visiting a doctor over a lung problem is about the most unpleasant thing I can think of - one always dreads the worst. I just hope you feel better soon.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    Lewing - have you made your doc appt. yet?  Xray, breath test - you blow into a little tubey thingie, listening to your lungs with a stethescope.  Easy Peasy.  NOW.  NOW.  NOW...From a boat on DeNile, I can say, it is SO MUCH BETTER to be able to breathe without coughing.

    OK.  The chorus has also joined in.  Sore diaphragm(sp?) from coughing, possible broken ribs - YIKES - NOW, girlSurprised

    Blue - that flower covered white picket fence is my dream, also a large enclosed room facing east/west....Alameda ( sp?) makes some posh ones...or so they show in the Sunday NYTimes magazineKiss

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