I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Yeah, I LOOOOOVE the regressives who call names while taking benefits from the government that they didn't earn, or taking advantage of COBRA and unemployment while bragging about their nice vacation. And you can absolutely bet that if they or their children needed government help, they would be first in line and scream loudest if they didn't get what they feel they are entitled to. And they can go ahead and think of me as a taker ... It doesn't change the facts of my circumstances one iota. (smug smile). They can be a "taker" like me only in their dreams.



    I have already voted, too -- we have in-person absentee voting if we are going to be out of the county for any reason on Election Day. It is very pleasant driving around my county - the Obama signs and huge banners on people's porches and in their hards far, far and away outnumber the Robme/Ruin signs. I love my county! My state is purple and just may yet swing blue. Hoping common sense (and a third party racist idiot from downstate with popular name recognition) will save the day.



    L







  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2012

    I'm off to visit the love of my life, my grandson.  ttyl.  You all keep me sane.  LOVE YAS!

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited October 2012

    Just read that Romney/Ryan official gear is made in China, while all Obama/Biden official gear is made in the USA.



    Any regressives with official RR gear care to refudiate?

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    A few years back I shared an office with a teabagger. When her husband turned 65 she said they "struggled" with collecting Medicare for him, as it was against their principles. But low and behold he took the Medicare and I'm sure she will also when she's of age. Oh, and he is also collecting his Social Security, and had been from the moment he was eligible. Hypocrisy anybody?

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    I think we all heard that Colin Powell endorsed Obama, but I think it is important to hear why, since we've all heard the baffoon (sorry to baffoons) Romney co-chair Sununu make his racist remark as to why:

    Powell expressed his concern about Republican candidate Mitt Romney's changing positions on international affairs. "The governor who was saying things at the debate on Monday night ... was saying things that were quite different from what he said earlier. I'm not quite sure which Gov. Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy."

    "One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal, same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern ... is that sometimes I don't sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have."

    Powell also said that he has given close consideration to Romney's domestic policies. "As I listen to what his proposals are especially with respect to dealing with respect to our most significant issue, the economy, it's essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things but that compensation does not cover all of the cuts intended or the new expenses associated with defense."

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Well, well, well, I guess Sandy and I started it all.  I just got an amused picture of God showing up people, and thought nah !!!!  too glitzy and sleight of hand for God and felt that surely two-faced Romney would be at the head of the line anyway.  Sorry.....but I really do think God gave people a huge amt. of intelligence.......if they don't use it that is their problem.  It is not hard to me to see where Robme/Lyin'Ryan Ruin is and is all about.  I'm not whacking any one on religion -- if you have it and it helps you....go for it, but I am amused that anyone would think God should bother with the trifling details of showing someone up when he gave us all intelligence. 

    So...I apologize a little but will hold my ground forever in that God gives us intelligence so he does not have to be bothered with having to "come" down here and show who the sinners and other nasty people are. 

    (((Blue )))

    ((((Enjoy)))

    (((( all of you  ))))

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    This is one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE videos, 'fraid it might'a gotten lost in my last post, so

    http://vimeo.com/51920265

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Yes, I don't think God cares about the outcome of the election anymore than he cares about the outcome of a football game. 

    "will hold my ground forever in that God gives us intelligence so he does not have to be bothered with having to "come" down here and show who the sinners and other nasty people are." <----this, IllinoisLady!

    And for the record, I am a Christian. 

    Mary

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    Mary, I too am a believer, albeit of the New Age ilk. I don't believe God is even aware of our childish human insanity. When we decide to act like grown ups and turn to love instead of fear S/He is there for us. 

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    A bit of a new ager Christian here as well....since I'm in the S/He category and if my brain is allowing me some thought right now.....Sun, I think that was Lesley Gore and what a message.  I no longer feel the need ( if I ever really did ) to be led and/or told.  I think I know a couple or few who will enjoy that video too. 

    Jackie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    I'm with yorkie, and jackie....also rather happy when I think of how His Holiess the Dalai Lama has described his religion: "My religion is kindness."

    Yup - it was Leslie Gore - she "opened" the piece saying "I'm Leslie Gore and I approved this message" and ends it with "I wrote this in 1964, and we're STILL fighting for the same things. V.O.T.E."

    We don't have early voting in my town ( of about 885 eligible voters) - but I still enjoy going to the voting place, using the dark graphite pencil on the PAPER form, and watching the election person grank the brass handle when I put my ballot in the slot of the wooden box, and watch the flap numbers register another ballott as she does it. Smile  We're "checked in" and "checked out" on lists and as we all KNOW each other, sure would be difficult to have any "fraud" - still feel my blood boiling when I heear that EXCUSE to disenfranchise people...grr

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    Sun, thanks I sent that video on to my daughters. They do Facebook and Pinterest and all that stuff so they'll probably pass it on.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    Just catching up.  Have I said lately how much I love all of you?  Coming here to read your posts always makes me feel better about the world.  Even when we're angry, or sad or discouraged, there's always humor and kindness . . . and hope.

    I went out for a run this morning and then did the grocery shopping (lines were insane -- would have been shorter if I'd reversed the order, but I really wanted to get my run in before the winds got too high).  Now we're holed up in the apartment for the duration.  We're on pretty high ground, the electric lines are buried, and the NYC water system is gravity-pumped, so even if we lose power, we should still have water (but are filling up pitchers just in case).  The only other hurricane I've been through was Gloria, back in my western Mass grad student days, so this is all new to me. As a midwesterner, I'm used to tornados striking with little warning, not this extended period of waiting and watching.

    Hope everyone else in Sandy's path weathers the storm OK.

    Linda 

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Memo to self: Never let too much time go by before coming here - as the inimitable George Carlin said, "I's bad for ya."

    Blue and E sitting on "fat asses"? I will tell you who does that: nutso ignoramouses who are allowed to say whatever comes to their mind and take up public time, space and patience. Wherever they are.

    Our society is charitable in that it lets the ignorant and stupid both opine and vote.

    Democraces do tend to turn up a rather idiotic swath of voters sometimes.

    But Obama will win.

    If only Romney's suporters realized what contempt he has for them - he believes/knows he can lie at will and they will still bite.

    Americans are a gullible lot. We worship heroes real and imagined here. We are easy to convince, and people who believe Romney and Ryan are about as wise as a prostitute who still believes her clients' pleas of "I love you." They are probably the same people who believe TV ads and robocalls.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited October 2012

    I love you ladies. I love people who can discuss, even argue issues and have actual positions beyond, "neener neener, you've got cooties."

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2012

    Blue - I also read what you did - your arse isn't fat at all :) I have never read anything so nasty. Hard to believe these people might be mothers or have had breast cancer.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Susie-I so appreciate that while your views may be more conservative than most on this thread, you prefer to stay with us and be civil. Laughing

    Mary

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Expect many read the New York Sunday Times in hard copy, but just in case, thisis VERY VERY special:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/opinion/sunday/why-i-am-pro-life.html?_r=0

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Sun - great piece...one sentence from above:

    You can call yourself a “pro-conception-to-birth, indifferent-to-life conservative.” I will never refer to someone who pickets Planned Parenthood but lobbies against common-sense gun laws as “pro-life.”

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Well hooray.....a very thoughtful piece which makes perfect sense.  I would imagine many of us had a great many of those thoughts in our minds and hearts, but just speaking for myself ---  just couldn't quite get it to fit so well.....sort of stuck in some of the pieces.

    As well......and somewhat using the same train of thought......how can you change your story for every person or group your talking to and not see it as what we used to call a bold-faced lie.  Can't be done, at least not by an honest person.

    Jackie

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    A Mormon friend of mine called it ADHD (on Romney's part), but alas, he's voting for Romney, so he must interpret it in the kindness of ways possible.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2012

    Thanks, Sunflowers.  You know, it hit me as I read the piece that what's going on here isn't just a lack of respect for women's choices (though that's obviously huge).  It's also a dogged refusal to acknowledge that the world is complicated, that sometimes choices are excruciatingly difficult.  And so you have someone like Joe Walsh refusing to even acknowledge that a pregnancy could ever threaten the life of the mother -- wishing the situation away by saying that nah, that never happens, so we don't need to even think about women's lives and health when we're putting restrictions on abortion. 

    Kind of like the Republican House candidate in NY who stated that no one dies of breast cancer in this country any more.  (That was his twisted argument for opposing health care reform.)

    As repugnant as I find RIchard Mourdock's comments about pregnancies from rape, at least he acknowledged them . . . unlike Akins, and his theory that women's bodies can summon up magic sperm-killing secretions.  Another instance of just making stuff up to make painful reality go away so that we can pretend everything is easy.

    Reminds me of a little kid holding their hands over their ears and shutting their eyes and saying "lalalalalalalalala."  Except those overgrown kids are in a position to make real laws that are going to affect us and our own kids and the whole freaking world.  Scary, scary, scary.

    Linda

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Lest Romney suffers Romnesia during what looks like a possible impending weather disastor in the East...he said this during the Republican Primaries:

    Asked about federal disaster relief for recent tornado and flood victims at last night’s GOP debate, candidate Mitt Romney called the spending “immoral” and said the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be privatized. With greenhouse pollution on the rise, the United States has been struck by a “punishing series of billion-dollar disasters.” 

    Embracing a radical anti-government ideology from the most extreme elements of the Tea Party, Romney said that the victims in Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Massachusetts, and other communities hit by tornadoes and flooding should not receive governmental assistance. He argued it is “simply immoral” for there to be deficit spending that could harm future generations:

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Of course he'll have Romnesia.....It is not Nov 6th. yet.  Does remind ( since I missed this one apparently ) people how much he really cares about the human race at large.   Bullyism at its finest. 

    Jackie

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Kam-do you have a source for that quote? I'd like to post it on my facebook page.

    Mary

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012
  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2012

    Thankyou Mary - friendship is much more important than politics.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    This may have been posted already. Very tongue-in-cheek, talks about Romney and the Zombie Apocalypse.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TiXUF9xbTo&amp;feature=share

    Yes, Susie, and civil politics combined with friendship, is much more important than hateful slop. Tongue Out Did you enjoy your celebration dinner the other night?

    Mary

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited October 2012

    Apparently some find our thread "boring" - they only read one or two items before becoming so - could it be they can't follow our conversations because they are above their reasoning capabilities?

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