I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited October 2012

    E - glad you got to see Glenna and have a horse visit too - overthrowing "stuff" is a GOOD thing I think - or you could move up here for a while....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012
    Trying to get a quote in here = but all the funny whatzits won't go away...
      
      
      
      
  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited October 2012

    Gardengumby - don't let the CNN polling throw you - lately they've been acting like Faux News - there are better polls out there - Quinnipaic is one that I trust more than some of the others.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Tried to get a quote in from one of my favorite Emily Dickinson poems for Garden Gumby, but kept getting weird stuff, so will just TYPE IT IN MYSELF ;=)

     Emily Dickinson:

    Not knowing when the Dawn will come,

    I open very Door,

    Or has it Feathers, like a Bird,

    Or Billows, like a Shore -

    Sounds like you're in for a wonderfully exciting time - open windows, open doors, new Shores. All sounds so delicious!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Scoot/Enjoyful, Glenna - when we takeover can we do it on our SCOOTERS..with the coloured spangles?  And flourescent thingies hanging off the handles?  I wanna do it NOW.  N.O.W.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited October 2012

    What a great poem, Sunflowers.  Thank-you!

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited October 2012

    Hi Everyone!

    Scoot ... So excited you got to meet Glenna.  I'm so jealous you spent the day together. 

    How wonderful for Glenna to also meet our Scootful.  She's a wonderful friend!

    Pip ... I know how you feel.  I often look at the pictures from our get together last summer.  Sure do miss everyone.

    Hope everyone had a good day.

    Bren

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012
    Who, where on the get together last summer???Smile
  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited October 2012
    It was a big one.  Lindasa was very generous and hosted it. Lassie, Enjoyful, Lewing, Happy Libby, Ann NY, Rachel Mumayam, Sandy, BinVa, Sugar, Luah, hrf, Rosemary, Barbe, Blue, BarbA, Yan, Cookiegal, me (PIP) and our angel Dreamwriter.  We honoured 2 members who passed before we got together, Olga and Konakat.  Cry
  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    I keep the picture of all of us on my desk at work, right next to my wedding picture. And the picture that AnnNYC made for us of KK and her name in the sand is pinned right above my monitor. I think of her every day, just as I admire all of my friends in the picture every day. No matter how crappy my day is, I get a smile and warm fuzzy looking at the picture of all of us.



    L

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Cookielegal? I've seen that name, but not on this thread.  You guys made me cry.  Wow, how wonderful.  Doesn't Linda live in Canada??? Is that where you met?

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited October 2012

    Ack, this thread is moving fast again!

    Sunflowers, are you on Zometa with your Arimidex? I just rec'd my second every-6-month infusion of Zometa, but I'm not sure when my onc will order another bone density scan. I had wonderful bone density before BC (and instant menopause!) and I take a calcium/D3/magnesium supplement also. So my fingers are crossed that Arimidex won't mess up my bones too much. Slight segue - my Vitamin D level is now 50, taking 2,000 units of D3 daily on top of the previously-mentioned supplement. Yay! It drops like a rock if I don't take it regularly and was 12 shortly after diagnosis. I had to ask for the test after reading here at BCO about the link between Vitamin D levels and BC. Whatever, at least he's following it now.

     I read a neat article suggesting Obama could nail down the election in the debates (if he hasn't already) by explaining clearly how HIS economic plan would work and then directly challenging Romney to spit out the specifics of his plan or quit pretending he has one that anyone but the rich and corporations would like. 

     http://prospect.org/article/how-obama-beats-romney 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited October 2012

    Riley - I had 4 Zometa infusions - had a bone density after 2 years on A and no significant change. My Vit D is 92 - I take CaltratePlus which has 4000iu in it and a separate D3 of 1000.  My onc said that if your bone density was good to start with, then A is less likely to cause problems.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    I so wish we could have another meeting (the first for me). If my den were not so den-sized, I'd offer my place.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Oh, yuck yuck yuck! The Huff Post has gone all pink for breast cancer. I thought they were more intelligent than that. How mortifying....

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited October 2012

    suzieq60,

    Is your Vitamin D level in nmol/L or ng/ml?

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Riley, that article was GREAT! It would be wonderful if it happened that way, wouldn't it?!



    L

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited October 2012

    HL - I too have the picture of NOTL and the Konakat card mounted on the corkboard above my computer.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    Interesting article on Hoover, FDR and the Great Depression.  I'd seen much of the same information on a History channel program.  Wealth becoming concentrated among a few, wages stagnating, unregulated stock market out of control, banks making reckless loans and then going under ... Hoover's belief that 'trickle down' would solve the problems.  Sounds familiar huh.   http://iws.collin.edu/kwilkison/Online1302home/20th%20Century/DepressionNewDeal.html

    And just for a laugh ... this guy should have spent a lot less time on his costume and much much more time on his sign.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Agreed, wabbit.

    Interesting what you say about the New Deal, etc... because my favorite columnist, Paul Krugman, says this election is a referendum on the New Deal and its tenets. I am more optimistic, as I don't think Romney has a chance (ergo: there is no referendum to speak of).

    I do think we have to be on alert to Tea Party efforts to stymie the vote. That is their last hope. 

    Riley, I couldn't read your link. Interesting that you are on Zometa. My onc had me on 1mg every six months, but when the AZURE trial results were published he said it wasn't worth it. Too bad, I say.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    WR, I have been laughing at that picture all day -- have seen it several places!



    L

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    Athena, what were the AZURE trial results? I've had 3 Zometa infusions.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    Why are some getting Zometa?  My MO never mentioned it to me.  Hmmm

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    Me too!  And there are about a gazillion others out there just as bad or worse.  These people need to learn to spell words like constitution and socialism and all their other buzz words before they go out in public and hold up their brain farts for everybody to see. 

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Yorkie:

    The AZURE trial  suggested that the early stage women who most benefitted from Zometa were those who had been in menopause for a while, whereas premenopausal women or women who had just entered menopause, got less benefit. In the eyes of many, this seemed to contradict the assertion made by the so-called Austrian trials in 2009 that premenopausal BC patients could benefit. The 2009 Austrain trail was practice-changing for early stagers and so was the AZURE trial. Many of us stage II-III people were put on Zometa, then taken off it.

    But both were well designed studies whose results appear to hold over time. What the scientists ignored was that the women in the Austrian trial had not had chemo and the ones in the AZURE trial had. But in BC research they never seem to concern themselves with "details" -arghhh!

    I PROBABLY don't need Zometa, but it was one of my few hopes, so I was sad to lose the option.

    I am going to give you a link to a Stage III forum thread where we discuss the trial results - voraciousreader published them. I think it was December of 2010...off to find the link.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    It was 2011 - Yikes - only one year off!

    Here goes, Yorkie:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topic/779179?page=3#post_2750178

    ETA: Kam: if you were diagnosed recently, or you were very early stage, it might not have been mentioned. Zomneta is not standard TX for non-stage IV patients anymore.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    Athena, I'm going to read it all. Thanks for the link! I had been menopausal for 14 years before getting Zometa. Maybe it is indicated for me. Seems the problem is those who were not menopausal? Anyway, I'll learn much more once I go to the link. 

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Yes -  if you have been in menopause for that long, neither of the two trials contradict themselves. It's premenopausal women who had the problem.

    It appears that women who have been in menopause for five years or more have a greater risk of losing bone density -especially with hormonal treatment. So Zometa is protective for the bones. Many stage IV patients are put on more aggressive hormone tx so they are given zometa - but they get it as often as every three weeks, and 4 mgs - perhaps more, I don't know.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Re: the vote:

    Statewide,
    Republican voter registration in California is in decline. Thirty percent of
    voters are now listed as Republican as opposed to 32% in 2008. It was awfully
    suspicious, then, when GOP registrations in Riverside County jumped by 35,000 this
    year, seemingly giving them an advantage of 51,000 voters over Democrats. It
    turns out that thousands of Democrats have been re-registered as Republicans
    without their permission.

    A
    Republican voter outreach program named 'The Golden State Voter Participation
    Project' stationed workers outside of stores and welfare offices to sign people
    up. Democratic activists are alleging fraud and have given the county registrar
    of voters 133 affidavits from Democrats, many of whom are Latino or African
    American, who state that they were wrongly re-registered as Republicans. Many
    were presented with documents that were misrepresented. One thought he was
    signing a petition to lower the price of gasoline, another that he was
    supporting the legalization of marijuana. Some were promised free cigarettes in
    exchange for signing.

    //
    //

    How
    would such fraud help Republicans? First of all, inflating their numbers gives
    them a fundraising boost by making their chances of success look greater than
    they are. Secondly, Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts would be thwarted since
    the party wouldn't reach out to people listed as Republican to make sure they
    made it to the polls.

    Candidate
    Richard Roth, who is running for state Senate against the Republican incumbent,
    is making the alleged fraud a campaign issue. After all, in an unfortunate
    development for the GOP, Roth is one of the victims whose registration was
    changed to Republican. He complains that the drive was manned by paid signature
    collectors who received $7 for every signature, and that his opponent voted
    against a measure that would ban 'bounty hunter' registrations.

    According
    to California Watch, the bigger picture in the state
    shows that only one county currently remains a Republican-majority stronghold.
    Even a conservative, military town like San Diego is now evenly split between
    Democrats and Republicans. So one has to wonder, didn't it occur to anyone in
    the GOP that Dems might notice the strange surge in Riverside County?

     This article is just speaking about California ( before I came back home here.....I lived there  in the Santa Barbara/Ventura areas ) for 25 years. I know this has/is going on everywhere. I think this is a major problem ---- about the part without their permission by representing what was signed to be apparently something else.  A person could be registered and then vote however they chose, but it is appalling to me.  Also, that people are PAID to defraud on top of everything else. Doesn't matter what anyone may get for these reprehensible acts.....I don't even care which party --- the are still the worst kind of losers in my book....not that it would matter to a single one of them. Sigh.

    Jackie....not so eloquent as usual.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Jackie - you are always eloquent.

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