I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Athena - I was upset to read about Anacortesgirl too.
Lucky I don't wear tampons/pads anymore - what about panty liners??? EEEKKK
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It's Obama's fault that tampons are toxic. Geeez get with the plan!
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He!!...It is Obama's fault I still get my period. And I just can't stand for it anymore!
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I knew of Anacortesgirl from being BRCA2+ I want to rant. If she and I had insurance that paid for this test, without already having BC, we and others with this gene might have avoided BC all together. I asked my doctor's several times about the test, before BC, and was told stupid stuff, but even if I had pursued it despite their bad advice, the $4300 price tag would have been formidable for me. I've seen some headlines that Canada is developing this test for 1/4 the cost as Myriad offers it for. Yeah for Canada.
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Watched the ceremony of the 4 "hero's" being brought home, and it was so sad..............Hillary Clinton was eloquent in her speech, and Obama was his usual polished sefl..............it was done so beautifully, and it broke my heart for the families, and for this country...........................Rest in peace, and thank you for your service................
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Just did 12.79kms on my bike, a bit further than last week. I went a different way where there are no atttack birds. There were a few magpies lurking but none swooped me. We are SO lucky to have this bike path it goes for miles in 2 directions - all following a creek. I was proud I didn't have to get off at all to go up the inclines - even made it up the last hill.
Did all the washing, bed changing, bathroom cleaning last night - feels good to have that spare time today.
Meeting up with some girls from BCO tomorrow afternoon in the city. Jenn, Racy and Linda - really looking forward to it.
Hope you all have a lovely stress free weekend.
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Now we've got riots here - nicely behaved people aren't they?
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Susie, lovely! The gangsta looking guy in one pic is wearing a T that says "6th Pillar." I had to look it up, since I only know the usual 5 pillars of Islam. The 6th is added by some Shia and also by some Sunni Islamists, and it is Jihad, the kind of Jihad directed against unbelievers.
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They had a sign saying Obama, Obama we love Osama - also signs calling to behead the film makers - sad thing was that children were there holding signs too. The TV footage was terrible - police with blood running down their faces - it got very nasty.
Unfortunately we have a growing population of people of this religion - especially in Sydney. We have huge numbers of boat people arriving all the time, coming from Indonesia but originating from Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan.
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Lindasa, Hillary Clinton was trying to explain about "free speech" in a Democracy, and how the government can't control all speech, very complex.
A COMPLEXITY made more complex, by the fact that the USA government supported so many of the dictatorships the people in many countries lived under for years, and years. Very complex. Oil? Sure, and lets not get into what the NeoConservatives in previous administrations said before invading Iraq. While we remember that many previous USA administrations SUPPORTED/funded/armed, Saddam Hussein because he was "against" the regimes in Iran ( after the Shah, another despot supported by Many USA Administrations was deposed) Complex, yup = now THIS is a situation I'd use the world COMPLEX to describe....
I wish everyone involved in these times, could understand the complexity, as the President and Secretary of State so clearly do, with courage, and heart.
I am so, so, so grateful to have Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in leadership positions trying to deal with this COMPLEXITY. In memory and HONOUR of Amb. Christopher Stevens, may reason and understanding prevail.
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Happy to read this:
MADISON, Wis. - A Wisconsin judge on Friday struck down nearly all of the state law championed by Gov. Scott Walker that effectively ended collective bargaining rights for most public workers.
Walker's administration immediately vowed to appeal, while unions, which have vigorously fought the law, declared victory. But what the ruling meant for existing public contracts was murky: Unions claimed the ruling meant they could negotiate again, but Walker could seek to keep the law in effect while the legal drama plays out.
The law, a crowning achievement for Walker that made him a national conservative star, took away nearly all collective bargaining rights from most workers and has been in effect for more than a year.
Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled that the law violates both the state and U.S. Constitution and is null and void.
FULL ARTICLE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/wisconsin-collective-bargaining-law_n_1885601.html
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Athena ... I read that article this morning on a different website. woohoo! Yay for Judge Colas!
I'm getting ready to meet my sis at Sam's club. Yikes ... should be crazy on a Saturday morning.
Hope everyone has a great day,
Bren
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Athena...I caught that article this morning, too! Yeah, yeah, yeah!!!
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It's good that Walker is getting some of his come-up-ins. Was soooo disappointed when the recall failed. Yay for that judge! Really hope the ruling holds.
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I saw the Gov. Walker piece on MSNBC last night. I have become somewhat of a "news junkie" ( don't take this wrong, ok ) since coming to this thread. Fortunately, though I didn't realize it.....most of what I read here and listen to on the news goes along almost to a tee with how I feel....but could never articulate well. I too hope yorkie that the ruling stands.......and that it will take hold in so many of the other places where the GOP hopes to rob people of their BASIC rights.
Big shame people like that don't feel shame.
Susie.....fleeing their own country and fighting in yours. Very sad.
Hope you have a great time tomorrow.
Jackie
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Susie - you must be in the Aussie thread? Is Kate (Canberra, I believe) going to be there?? We struck up an email friendship from our December surgeries....ugh, I haven't been very good keeping up lately, but adore that woman.
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Mr. Romney says on daytime TV that he secretly admires Snooki and sleeps in as little as possible. This is supposedly an attempt to help his 'likeability' factor. LOL ... you can't make this stuff up.
The basis of the ruling is equal rights. He can't take negotiation rights from just certain selected groups (teachers, public employees) while allowing other groups (police, fire dept) to keep them. Equal rights is about as basic to the Constitution as you can get so I would think the ruling would be upheld but WTH knows anymore. Look for the police and fire departments to be thrown under the bus next would be my guess.
Having trouble working up any sympathy for the guy who made that stupid film. He's scared now and expects taxpayers to pay for his protection. You exercised your freedom of speech rights. You helped get other people killed. Now exercise your right to go pay for your own bodyguards.
Stupid comment on Yahoo award goes to the guy who says the riots are all Obama's fault ... because he killed Osama. So we should have just let the guy who killed 3000 Americans stay free because his friends might get mad if we took him out??? And these are the same people who usually want to go in guns blazing for every little thing. You can explode the logic circuits in your brain reading that stuff.
Bren ... hope you don't get trampled trying to shop
I'm grateful that being retired gives me the luxury of not having to step foot in any of those places on a Saturday. -
From today's Toronto Star (I thought it was worth reading and sharing with you):
What should we make of Friday’s day of rage against the United States in various parts of the Muslim world? Thousands of angry and often violent protesters, many of them religiously fanatical young men, demonstrating in more than a dozen mostly Arab countries. Their actions and images dominated the world’s news coverage in yet another extraordinary chapter in this Arab awakening. How should we make sense of it?First of all, we should understand the scale. Precise numbers are impossible to determine but fewer than 40,000 protesters are thought to have participated worldwide. That is less than one-hundredth of 1 per cent of the world’s entire Arab population, and far fewer if we calculate the world’s total Muslim population of 1.6 billion people.Secondly, we should understand the stakes. Friday’s dramatic television pictures reminded the world that this historic transition in the Arab world will not be an easy one, and each and every one of us has an interest in it.On one side of the screen, we saw angry, shouting protesters calling for “Death to America,” supposedly in response to an offensive American video that mocked the Prophet Muhammad. On the other side, there were pictures of the poignant, painful return to Washington of the four Americans — including the remarkable U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens — who were killed Tuesday in the American consulate in Benghazi.This is not about a “clash of civilizations.” Instead, the dramatic events of recent days show that the forces of ignorance and ideology — on both sides — are hard at work at this crucial time to push their own agendas.We can see that in the efforts of small and fanatical groups throughout the Arab world seeking to exploit the wrenching changes after decades of dictatorship and tyranny. We can see it in the demented minds of a few anti-Muslim Americans who produce videos with the sole of intent of insult and provocation. And we certainly can see in the cynical way that some American conservative politicians are exploiting the unrest by trying to impose their own bloated sense of enduring “American exceptionalism.”Ambassador Stevens, in contrast, was truly exceptional, and his life and legacy have gained extraordinary attention in the Arab world this past week. Much of Libya is in mourning over his death. Once a Peace Corps volunteer in Morocco, Stevens was fluent in Arabic and known by colleagues as very hopeful about the Arab awakening. Above all, he would have appreciated the potential dangers of this week’s developments.In Friday’s protests, Americans have seen close-ups of angry protesters burning the American flag and seemingly ungrateful for the U.S. efforts to liberate Libya from its dictator, Moammar Gadhafi. They will be less aware — unlike Ambassador Stevens — of the wide shot when the camera pulls back.There is actually reason for optimism in the Arab world. In spite of these protests, the welfare of most Arabs is better than before, when corrupt tyrannies ruled the region. Novice democracies, however imperfect, are forming.The incident in Libya that killed Stevens and his three colleagues happened on Tuesday, the 11th anniversary of Sept. 11. The close-ups most Americans saw that day on their television sets were of tearful faces of American teenagers whose parents were among the 2,977 innocent people killed that day. But if you pull the camera back, you’ll see what most Arabs see. In retaliation for those awful deaths on Sept. 11, more than 600,000 innocent civilians were killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as a consequence of U.S. and British military actions.To many Americans, these are realities that have been long been forgotten. Even the fact there have been more than 50,000 American military deaths and injuries stemming from these wars since 2001 is rarely mentioned. In Mitt Romney’s acceptance speech as the Republican candidate for president, he uttered not one word about America’s involvement in these two wars.In the context of these unpredictable developments in the Middle East, the last word should perhaps go to Osama bin Laden, the architect of Sept. 11. Among the documents discovered by the U.S. military team that captured and killed bin Laden, there is one in which he laments the success of President Barack Obama in convincing Muslims that the U.S. was not targeting them. Bin Laden was far more supportive of the Republican tendency to use phrases such as “Islamo-fascism” and even the “war on terror.”In the days ahead, as the Republicans seek to gain political advantage in the U.S. presidential campaign from these developments, will history repeat itself? -
Great article, Linda. Thanks for sharing.
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Well finalyy back on BCO. My computer got a virus a couple of weeks ago and crashed. Finally got a new one today.
Linda great article, thanks for sharing.
I don't know if any of you remember Drew Peterson, but I just found out today he went to the same high school as me. He graduated 1 year after me. Kinda creepy to think about it, plus we lived in Bolingbrook Ill. when that poor girl was murdered.
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From your great post Linda:
And we certainly can see in the cynical way that some American conservative politicians are exploiting the unrest by trying to impose their own bloated sense of enduring “American exceptionalism.”
And last night on Bill Maher, the Conservative on the panel was doing the typical blame job on Obama for the current unrest across the globe and characterizing it as "all hell has broken out in the Middle East." Chris Hayes, also on the panel put him in his place..."All hell has not broken out in the Middle East. It's small groups of protesters. What was real hell was "Shock and Awe", invasion and occupation of Iraq resulting in thousands of American dead and maybe a million Iraqis. That's hell."
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Kira, I didn't know you were from IL. Small world. Yeah, Peterson was found guilty last week. Can't remember when sentencing is.
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Cherry, yes I lived 48 years in Villa Park and Bolingbrook moved to Florida in 2000. I just love Ill, and really miss my many visits to the museums in Chicago.
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I am about 4 1/2 hours south of Chicago. My town is a sleepy little hamlet of about 14,000.00. More a retirement community.....though many here wish there were a bit more going on.
Linda I too enjoyed your article. Always feeling too bad the other side won't read these articles or if they do don't believe them. I think Fox news is their electronic God.
Peterson should be getting his just. Very arrogant man. Still can't believe women continue to 'fall' for that type. Too hard to keep one eye open while you sleep. Been awhile but I recall there were about 3 or so incidents ( Scott Peterson from California.....and another guy I think from Colorado ) and the women all disappeared. In California case......there was a baby soon to be born as well. Talk about depravity and lunacy. People I want no where near me. Hope the Perterson sentence is a nice long one.
Jackie
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Thanks for the article Linda - SO WELL WRITTEN.
I really admire Chris Hayes - he was on Bill Moyers a few weeks ago - he's written several books. If I emember correctly, he used to write for the New York Times - then realized he couldn't be "objective" about what he saw happening. Sounds like a very wise, thoughtful person.
We're having Athena weather - in the low 40's this am - just in the 60's now - windy, need a sweater if you're not in the sun.
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I sure hope Peterson gets his due. For goodness sake he was a cop, and very likely killed his last wife as well the one he was found guilty of killing. What creeps me out is I'm fairly sure he was the cop who came to our home one night after some kid tried to brake into our house.
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Kam - Kate won't be there, but this is not an official gathering. Jenn is up here from Sydney for work tomorrow, so 3 of us here in Brisbane are meeting her. We are having a bigger get together in December, when ChrissyB and some others are flying in. Can't remember if Kate is coming to that. BTW - she lives south of Perth.
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Thanks Susie...my Australian geography, atleast where Kate lives, is non-existent. She either lived in Canberra or recently moved from there! I have been to Brisbane, though. In the late 90's I went somewhere inland from Noosaville? (Noosa something...a vacation spot on the Gold Coast) to take a "nutrition" class. It was a birthday present from a good friend. I flew in and out of Brisbane, so had one day to tootle around. My hotel was near the Museum of Natural History and I really enjoyed it. Barely saw Australia though, but I did see a few kangaroos!
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Kam - LOL - Noosa is on the Sunshine Coast, north of Brisbane, the Gold Coast is south of Brisbane
Was it Noosa Heads you went to? Gorgeous Beaches. -
At the risk of being banned for life, I must share a joke I got from a friend:
This is Gov. Palin. May I speak to Sen Liebermann.
He's not in today. This is Rosh Hashanah.
Hi Rosh, can I leave a message?
I can only hope she doesn't call back on Yom Kippur!!
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