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  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited April 2011

    I live in an area with almost non-existent public transportation.  I wish we would re-direct the money that goes as subsidies to the oil industry to creating public transportation alternatives. 

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited April 2011

    Medigal ... the sad truth is that most of our problems have been decades in the making.  There are no magic solutions.  Anybody who promises to be that magician is not telling the truth.

    There are things we can do to help long term but we don't seem to have the will to bite the bullet and do them.  We already did 'don't worry - be happy' and ignored it all ... now it is biting us in the butt.  IMO 

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited April 2011

    White:  You are so right.  I am not so stupid I think Obama has a vendetta on the US and is refusing to help us.  I guess I am angry that for years they knew these problems were coming and no one would have the courage as you said "to bite the bullet" and do what desperately needs to be done.  I want Obama to at least show us "he" has the courage to "bite the bullet".  Everyone keeps waiting for the next President to take charge and we are just sinking deeper and deeper into the hole.  Please don't take my posts as a "I hate Obama" posts.  However he is the leader now and how many more leaders do we have to wait on before someone "tries" to help.  We have to realize he has access to the greatest mines on earth.  There must be some answers out there for us if he can just lead and get the Dems and Repubs to quit playing "I got you last!"    They are more interested in making each other look bad than helping our country and Obama has to call a stop to this, imo.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited April 2011

    Rabbit -- I spent a week in your fair city attending a course (this was in the 90's) and was appalled that everyone I spoke to had to have a vehicle to get to their office, university, appointments etc.  They described your almost non-existent transit system (system???) and I sure felt sorry for those who couldn't afford their own transport and had to wait - literally - hours for a bus.  Sure didn't make any sense to me whatsoever, and I'm wondering if this is the case in most U.S. cities?  Diverting oil subsidies to public transit makes SENSE, for heaven's sake!  Finding ways to use less oil makes SENSE.  Blaming the President for not being able to lower gas prices makes NO sense.

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited April 2011

    Lindasa:  Your idea of public transportation in every city could be an answer.  However although it would provide more jobs, it would be at an expense I think worthwhile.  We have a busstop across the street from where we live but it takes so long to wait for the bus and make connections, we have never used it.  It has to be done so that people can get to where they need to go in a timely fashion. It is one conclusion to the problem of raising gas prices.  If people were using more public transit and less gas in their own autos, gas prices may go down.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    We have a superb public transportation system where I live....you never have to wait more than 10 minutes, bus stops every 5 blocks, and nobody I know uses it. Just recently, they've added racks to the front of every bus so you can even bring your bike along.....still, buses are constantly empty. Sadly, people don't want to give up the convenience of their vehicles. I can't see that changing any time soon. Same with car-pooling.....great idea, but very few take advantage. Often here, we boycott one station at a time...ie., nobody buys at Shell for a week.....that makes them lower their price by a few cents....kind of a rotating boycott. It works. Having said that however, they can't go lower than a few pennies or the station wouldn't make their few pennies...and it is pennies...one of my friends owns a Superstore gas bar. She makes very little on gas and relies on snacks and sundries to make a profit.

    ETA: as dumb as it sounds, there has always been a certain stigma attached to taking public transportation. People are generally embarrased to be seen on a bus....here, anyway.

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited April 2011

    I'm still sleeping way too much and am way behind on the conversation.  But I can't resist saying YAY BRUINS!!!!!  May a Canadian goose poop on my head or a beaver knaw on my leg, I don't care!  I do think the Habs are a better team and will root for them if they win the series but for now, mouhouhahahaha, I was born a Bruins fan and will always be one.  There's just something about Boston boys...  Oh yeah, go Canucks!  I love Roberto Luongo!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    Well, back in the 60s I rode the bus to and from work while I lived in San Antonio.  Many times people had to stand...not enough seats.  However, it is a large city and more people take, IMO, public transportation because they are in convenient places. 

    Where we lived (in the 60s) once we moved to N.C. I also rode the bus downtown to work.  Now, when it came to my job I had across the Cape Fear River, I rode with a colleague...we car pooled...gas was eveb cheap..I paid him...and we only had one car.

    My DD who lives in downtown Chicago takes the train to where she works.  Her DH has to drive because the train doesn't go to where he works. 

    It is not feasible to have public transportation in areas that will not support the system.  There are no buses running in the area we live now.  

    With gasoline so expensive all transportation prices are rising along with food and everything else shipped or trucked in.  We do need to drill for more oil.  No one said not to look for alternative energy.  I can tell you one thing...wind won't do it...solar sure won't do it...batteries..whatever floats your boat.  We do not have a huge car, but for older people it is much harder to get in and out of cars.  You should have seen me trying to get my dad and my FIL in and out of our car when we drove a LeSabre and they're not small.  Smaller cars are horrible for old people.  I'm not OLD YET!  Laughing

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    factcheck is not my favorite.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    Medigal wrote:   As for the You Tube, I think reading what others were saying about Obama was twice as interesting!  

    The reason I wanted to post that one is to, IMO, show is arrogance in the face of a crisis for many of us.  We are on a fixed income and it ain't gonna fly is this continues.  I guess we'll be one of those that stops taking our meds. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/42703813  

    Don't Like a Weak Dollar? Might as Well Get Used to It - CNBC

    Published: Thursday, 21 Apr 2011 | 2:26 PM ET  

    Weakness in the US dollar, which is causing everything to go up-including gas prices, food and stocks-is unlikely to go away soon as a selling frenzy hits the currency market.

    The greenback is approaching pre-financial crisis lows and threatening to smash through its all-time low when measured against the world's predominant national currencies.

    A combination of factors accounts for the weakness, with the Federal Reserve's easy-money policies, huge national debts and deficits and the consequential possibility of a debt downgrade because of the financial mess in Washington leading the way.

    In short, as trader Dennis Gartman noted Thursday, "the rout of the US dollar" is in full effect.

    "Panic dollar selling is setting in," Gartman, a hedge fund manager and author of "The Gartman Letter," wrote in his daily commentary. "This may carry farther than any of us dream of or, worse, have nightmares of."

    How low can it go?

    Rick Bensignor, chief market strategist at Dahlman Rose in New York, said the dollar index [.DXY  74.08      -0.03  (-0.04%) ]   , which measures the greenback against a basket of select other global currencies, has scant technical support "that has any meaning" between its present level and the historical low of 70.70.

    That's a widely shared view, even as currency pros wonder how the dollar could be falling against the euro considering the near certainty of sovereign debt defaults in smaller European Union nations.

    Gartman described the dollar as being in "serious jeopardy" because of its status against the euro, which was defended recently as European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet announced a rate hike in the zone.

    No such defense is being offered in the US, where neither Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke nor most of the rest of the central bank's Open Market Committee seems much in the mood to raise rates despite the anemic dollar. Though the Fed is ostensibly apolitical, there is no pressure as well from the Obama administration to boost the dollar's value.

    "If things were to somehow go into freefall or there were disorderly markets, or if it is associated with a rise in interest rates, there could be some concerns there," said Josh Feinman, chief global economist at Deutsche Bank Advisors. "But that's not happening at all. Rates in the US are still very, very low. At the margin, (a weak dollar) is a slight easing in financial conditions.

    That, of course, is not the case for consumers buying food and energy. Some economists believe that a weak dollar is contributing heavily to the surge in prices at the pump, with one speculating that gas could reach $6 a gallon or beyond by summertime, given certain conditions.

    Food prices also are on a steady climb higher. In both cases, a weak dollar is at least somewhat to blame as it drives commodities, which are priced in dollars and therefore cheaper and more attractive to speculators in the global marketplace.

    But the stock market has enjoyed the weak dollar.

    The Standard & Poor's 500 [.SPX  1337.38  ---  UNCH  (0) ] and the dollar have had almost a perfectly inverse relationship this year, with the stock index gaining just over 6 percent in 2011 and the dollar losing 6.5 percent.

    "At the margins it helps US exporters, and the US importers probably also increase profits as they're repatriated," said David Resler, chief economist at Nomura Securities in New York. "I don't see the dollar as having a significant intermediate-run effect on the performance of the economy."

    With Wall Street shaking off the dangers of a possible downgrade from S&P, the market is likely to prevail against any thought that it's time to start enacting policies that defend the currency.

    The only thing on the horizon that appears to be dollar-friendly is the end of the second leg of the Fed's quantitative easing program-or QE2-in June.

    Even then, the central bank is likely only to stop its $600 Treasury-buying operations. There are no indications that the Fed will be selling back into the marketplace any of the securities it has purchased, so a rise in rates is unlikely until inflation becomes more widespread and indicated through government economic metrics.

    "That's probably just a warm-up for a QE 3 program later on. All these things are undermining the fundamentals for the dollar," said Sean Hyman, currency director for World Currency Watch. "It doesn't help anything that commodities keep going through the roof. There are a few dynamics working in a concerted effort all at once, and that's killing it."

     
  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2011

    More oil news: Saudi Arabia is spending more money and needs oil prices to be higher.  They therefore cut production:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-15/top-oil-market-news-oil-is-near-3-day-high-saudi-floor-on-oil.html 

    Then the International Energy Agency asks OPEC to increase production and warns that Japanese rebuilding and nuclear crisis will lead to higher demand:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/oilprices/8462703/International-Energy-Agency-urges-OPEC-to-raise-oil-output.html 

    And the IEA warns that the age of cheap energy is over:

    http://www.iea.org/index_info.asp?id=1928 

    Much more information at links.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    This was posted Oct. 2009.  Very interesting.  

    Soros: China Must Be Part Of The New World Order  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjckJWqb0A&feature=player_embedded

    Some quotes by Soros in this video:

    An orderly decline of the dollar is actually desirable  

    you need a new currency system  

    it is not necessarily in our interest to have the dollar as the sole world currency  

    it is in our interest as well to reform the system  

    I think this is a healthy painful adjustment that the world has to go through. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    Yes, we need to drill for our own oil.  We have plenty.  We should have been doing this years ago. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    There's more "blab" in the article if you so choose to read.   Why is he taking the credit?

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-defends-administration-record-oil  

    Obama Defends Administration Record on Oil and Energy Production  

    The rate of domestic oil production in 2010 is to be credited to the previous administration, not Obama, said American Petroleum Institute Upstream Director Erik Milito.

    "Production levels in 2010 are a credit to the vision of previous administrations, which opened areas to development, and to the men and women of the U.S. oil and natural gas industry who have produced more from our resources than anyone anticipated," Milito said in a statement.

    He cited Energy Information Administration numbers that show domestic oil production will decline from 5.51 million barrels per day in 2010 to 5.4 million barrels per day in 2011 - and 5.27 million barrels per day in 2012, in part due to the Gulf drilling moratorium.

    Milito said the Obama administration has consistently made choices that delay companies' access to domestic oil and natural gas - and to "vilify the American oil and natural gas industry through yearly calls for removing business tax provisions that affect these companies, regardless of the potential impact of higher taxes on production, supply and price."

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    Between our currency going to hell in a hand basket, are we going to be another Zimbabwe?

    I hate to say it, but the evil Beck has been talking about this stuff for months. 

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2011

    Shirley, I have a friend whose family owns a support company for the oil industry.  She disagrees that we can drill our way out of this.

    There's oil there but not enough.  We really do have to start getting serious about alternatives and incorporate those and try to save on energy too.  Those who just say drill baby drill and think that will take care of things IMHO are mistaken. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    River, I don't believe I said to ONLY DRILL.  We've been saying do all of it.  But the dems/president/enviromentalist says NO...Geez I wish someone was in charge.  We need solutions.  Not some dream (nightmare)!  We'll end up in a double-dip recession if this continues.  NOT GOOD!

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2011

    One of her favorite sites, that she hooked me up with is this:

    http://www.theoildrum.com/ 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    What Malito said was true.

    I don't care how many New Years Eve parties the Reagans spent with the Annenbergs.  I don't agree with everything Bush did either.  If you think I think the republican presidents were "saints"....nope.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    Anybody want to learn about quantative easing?  This is funny and informative. 

    Quantitative Easing Explained  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k&feature=watch_response_rev

    This is fun also.

    Bank Bailouts Explained  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yipV_pK6HXw

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited April 2011

    I am still trying to figure out what a "Hab" is.

    otter

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited April 2011

    The Habs are Les Habitant....In otherwords Montreal Canadiens.

    P.S.  Ray says, they are the best Hockey Team in the world.  He's French BTW.  hehehehhe!

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited April 2011

    When we lived in New York, I loved the subways!!  Inexpensive and fast!  Soon as one was off you knew the next was right behind it.  I used to walk a block, take the subway and it left me off in Rockefeller Plaza where my office was in the building.  Never had to be late.  What a convenience! I know all cities can't impliment subway systems but they sure beat buses, imo.  

     Hey Shirley, thanks for making us "young" again.  If you aren't old yet neither am I, so why do I feel like crap when my "young" body decides to torment me?Wink  It's ok.  Good to be young while I lie on my heating pad which I am about to do.  Been a busy day.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited April 2011

    Otter -- a "Hab" is an affectionate term for a Montreal Canadiens hockey player.  The Canadiens are sometimes called les Habitants -- a French term for the first settlers of Quebec (then called New France in the 18th century).

    Much as I'd like to 'see' a Canadian team win the Stanley Cup, I don't watch NHL hockey -- I'm an Olympics watcher only - men AND women!

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited April 2011

    I only watched hockey when I was little -- had a big crush on Phil Esposito and Derek Sanderson.  Stopped watching it when I was a kid, only got back to it when I moved back to Ottawa and hung out with a girlfriend who's a fanatic about hockey.  Now I'm hooked.  Always loved Olympic hockey -- men's and women's too.  My heart still palpitates when I think of the last US-Canada Olympic game...

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    blue, Ray's right!

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited April 2011

    I am thrilled that there are so many Habs fans!  As a Montrealer, I have been a life-long Habs fan.  Yesterday's game was heartbreaking.  I couldn't watch the game on TV since I am Miami right now and ESPN didn't show the game.  I had to listen to the game.  Hopefully, we will win Tuesday's game in Montreal.

    Happy Easter/Passover everyone! 

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited April 2011
    Go Lightning!! Just sayin'. Cool
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited April 2011

    GO LIGHTNING for sure!  I can't stand the Penguins and Sindey Crysby.  Blecch.

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