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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited December 2005

    Aaaa if we ate like DH it would be 5 lbs of red meat 3 lbs of potatoes then the rest is veggies and fruit! He gets what he likes part of the time and that is enough for him to survive it! Are DH ever truly happy unless they get a good dinner?

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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    We went to the mall yesterday and had lunch. DH had spaghetti/meatballs, informed me we didn't have that enough.
    Then complained because the sauce was too thin.

    Canned tomatoes are in the good column so that may have to re-appear on our dinner list. I had it for awhile but got tired of it.
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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited December 2005

    Oh yes Rose you need thick sauce and big meatballs to make a man happy! I am back in the saddle but every meal is a struggle.

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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    The sauce at the mall was pretty watery. I can do better just opening a can!

    I don't really like canned spaghetti sauce, it tends to have a lot of oil in it. He'll be happy with those canned tomatoes/garlic/onion mixtures.

    I guess I got on the lentil kick and forgot about tomatos.
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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    Tommorow is the office party.
    I signed up for desserts and spent the weekend making five different kinds of cookies. I boxed them up tonight, and sampled more than I ought to have.

    Now I have tomorrow to look forward to. Help me to do vegies and not compound my cookie damage!
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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited December 2005
    Lord Please Help Rose find Veggies much more appealing than all the goodies I would be eating! Give her strength in her time of need of chocolate and sugar!Amen!!

    How is that Rose? If he can't help you then I don't know who can! Take care and remember it only is once a year!
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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    I was good. I had a couple of meatballs, lots of green beans (OK they were cooked in bacon fat), a chicken leg, one serving of very spicy potato salad, some dip/chips, and lots of carrots/brocolli -- plus some cake someone else brought.

    BUT I didn't have any eggnog, mostly because it was spiked.

    I put the uneatten cookies back in the box and will take them to a meeting I go to every week. The woman who runs that meeting gave me a basket with bean soup mix in it. So I'll repay her good deed with sugar and choclate!
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  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited December 2005
    Okay, my healthy friends. I need advice.

    I'm dropping weight (not inches 'cause it isn't toned) due to diahrea (sp) and strange tastes. I think I can counter act the strange tastes, but what foods counteract diahrea?

    --Theresa
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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited December 2005
    Theresa,



    Rice and banana supposedly counteracts diarrhea and also soluble fiber should help. You need to have liquids because you can also get dehydrated.



    Something else that may help:



    Glutamine is an amino acid that is the preferred source of energy for the intestinal lining. It helps feed the intestinal cells, which helps them recover faster from damage. Glutamine also feeds immune cells and helps muscle growth. It is useful in integrative cancer care to reduce destruction of the stomach lining during chemo/radiation and also support to muscle mass. Glutamine helps ulcers and gastritis heal faster and frequently reduces nausea and vomiting. It can help repair the stomach and intestinal damage from pain killers such as aspirin or Tylenol.



    I hope this helps.



    Rosemary
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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited December 2005

    They will tell you with small babies it is a BRAT diet, Bananas, Rice, Apples and a T food no idea what the T stands for! Youngest is 8, been too long ago. They use that when no meds are allowed! Good Luck Theresa! I know the taste is awful!

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  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited December 2005
    Rosemary,

    Where do I get glutamine? Do you know if it's okay to do it during chemo?

    I don't like Bananas so I guess rice and apples it'll have to be. Wouldn't have thought of the rice.

    I'm trying to put liquids in. It's just hard when everything is running through! (And this is during my week "off".)

    --Theresa
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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    The 'T' in BRAT is 'Toast'. I had kids with non-stop ear problems and the antibotics always gave them problems.

    You might try yoghurt. If the drugs have wiped your intestinal bacteria out it can restore it.

    Hope you're feeling better!
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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited December 2005
    Theresa,

    They sell Glutamine in vitamin stores. It's a powder you'll mix in water. I know they give it to patients on chemo to help with mouth sores, it seems to help that too. As for dosage, I can't help with that, sorry. Maybe you should check to see if your Onc would have any problem with you taking it.
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  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited December 2005
    I'll do that. Thanks you guys for all your help! Maybe if I can keep some food in me, I'll have more energy.

    --Theresa
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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    Let's hope with all this discomfort that the stuff is doing its' job.

    Did I read that you go back the first week in January to find out? I'm praying it's 'terminating' all those bad cells. If they need to 'run' out then so be it!
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  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited December 2005
    Wouldn't that be nice, if the cells were escaping with the undigested food?

    Yeah, I go back for scans Dec. 26 and get the results Jan. 3.

    My feeling is that it's working. I was getting slightly out of breath before (and thinking that it was back in my bone marrow.) Now, it's colder and I have more breath. I can't exercise because of the Xeloda and friction, but I think I'm doing better.

    I wouldn't even mind the weight loss if it didn't come with the discomfort. Guess you can't have everything.

    --Theresa
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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    I hope it isn't too bad a wait. If you feel like it's working that will help.



    Put all those holiday goodies in a baggie and freeze them so you can enjoy them properly once this passes. I think we're getting close to the 'fat-free holiday' zone! Just a few days and counting.



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  • SpanArtist
    SpanArtist Member Posts: 75
    edited December 2005
    Hi Theresa,

    Are you in treatment now? If you are, you need to tell your oncologist about the diarrhea. I was told by my doc to take Imodium (over the counter) for diarrhea during treatment. Diarrhea can cause you to become dehydrated, which is not a good thing during treatment.

    If you're not in treatment, I'd still call your doc, if you're losing weight because of it.

    Take good care and hugs!
    Liza
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  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited December 2005
    Liza,

    Thanks. I did tell my onc. "Gee, that's strange" was the response, because I only get the diarrhea when I'm not taking the Xeloda. I've been taking Imodium, but it's not quite doing it's job, so I thought I'd supplement it with foods that would "stop" me up as well.

    --Theresa
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2005
    Theresa,
    Firstly, I want to tell you how much awe I have of your inner strength in the way you handle the bumps in the road that present to you.
    You have so got the right attitude along with those rose colored glasses!

    Anyway, back on topic, gelatin might be a diarrhea stopper?

    Keep on keepin on!

    Laura
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  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited December 2005
    Thanks for the kind words. I don't know about the inner strength. Christmas this year has been a little depressing (it's my favorite time of the year and it's been really hard to celebrate it. My hands hurt after making just a few dozen cookies!)

    Would you believe that today, just taking one dose of Xeloda, that it's stopped. So, I can have different side effects, but at least I'm not dizzy from lack of calories now.

    --Theresa
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2005
    its a bit depressing and exhausting to celebrate for me and i am not even doing the chemo...

    i am telling you, you got the strength, now run with it...:)

    i am just waiting for our christmas when you get your test results back, jan 4...that is where i am banking a huge portion of my christmas wishes...

    and for cowgirl, put a bunch of christmas wishes on her upcoming brca testing...

    and for rose, saint rose, may she just continue to be well and give us her insight...

    i could keep going but better stop while i am ahead...

    don't know where all the emotional stuff is coming from today...

    so thankful, so sad, just one big walking talking posting emotional roller coaster...

    oh well, at least i am eating good...

    onward and upward to 2006!

    laura
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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited December 2005
    Theresa
    How you doing today? I am hoping your side effects are easing so you can do what you enjoy most! You are a tower of strength my friend! That and a dose of humor pie!

    Rose Dang it I knew you knew that dang gum T meant! I almost said I dont know the T but Rose does!

    Laura,
    As always you are the strength and light I see with grace and mulitcolored Veggies!

    My frig is bare, the kids have eaten every sweet thing we had in the house! Having all four of them home has made me a bit tired! They eat all the time you know! Come on Jan 2nd! I must dash to the store and get supplies for a small army!
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  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited December 2005
    I'm tired, but the constant running to the bathroom has stopped. Of course, now I taste nothing, but that's better than before!

    You all have a very merry holiday!

    --Theresa
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2005
    Cowgirl, enjoy your family time, seeing your brother and filling the kid trough...

    Theresa, hope you get a lot of rest over the holiday, let everybody else do the work...remind them you are on chemo!
    glad you are not trotting to the toy toy with the trots...

    I bet Rose is cooking a real yummy holiday dinner...hope the hubby appreciates it and it lives up to his high standards...<vbg>

    I am cruising!(Boyfriend plus four kids, eight days mexico) Yah...and when I step off that ship 01/04/05, watch out world, here I come...

    Onward and upward with LIFE! and all the technicolor diet I can get!

    See you all next year!

    Laura
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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    Sounds like Cowgirl will be cooking from now until New Years! My cookies, all 6 dozen, are holding out.

    I'm doing as little cooking as possible. I've got the Honey-baked ham in the fridge. Hubby had a CAT scan so his tummy wasn't feeling too good. The upside is that all is still well there.

    Mexico sounds nice and warm. The weatherman is talking about 50 degrees this weekend. That will be a heat wave!
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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited December 2005
    Well lowfat is just out of here, these people otherwise known as my family want meat and potatoes! I am losing my low fat perspective! It is so hard to think with the constant chatter of "I'm hungry!".

    Theresa! Hopefully you will keep that diaharrea away from you!

    Laura, it sounds fabulous, soak up some sun and shrimp for me!

    Rose so glad Dh is okay! I love ham wish I had some. Today I am cooking a dish I call Beef Fiesta, meat, ranch style beans and brown rice. The boys will put it on chips and smother it with cheese. I will eat it on brown rice! I have to jazz it up with taco stuff but they will eat it!
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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    That sounds good. My crew would like that just because it has chips.

    I do a taco cassarole where I take a taco dinner boxed mix, line a cassarole with the taco shells and layer the meat/sauce with more tacos, canned tomatoes, refried beans (not the kind with lard), and cheese. It is not low-fat but it does seem to get eatten.

    I appease myself knowing that canned tomatoes are good for you.
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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited December 2005

    At this time in my life I just want them to eat and move it along. I am sick right now, I think I have allergies or the flu. I am hopeful it will go away but I didn't get the flu shot this year, I know it was stupid. I never got to the doctor to do it, I had gotten to avoid the doctor if I could. So now I am back to praying for allergies!

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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited December 2005
    Do you have a temperature?

    I'm not feeling that well myself, and I had the darn shot. One of the perks (if you can call it that) of tamoxifen is that you get a postcard telling you your flu shot is waiting for you.

    I don't mind if they eat high-fat, they're young and skinny. I prefer them to get some orange juice and try to start the day with cereal and not chips.
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