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  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited January 2006
    Theresa,
    I think it is good you are tired, some one probably DH's Aunt said that your best healing is when you are sleeping. So that is a good sign you are resting.

    This show even showed a colon, heart, lungs, and kidneys. How fat after them, and how we can shrug off small fat content but in the big picture it all adds up. I think these two are the same guys that do Real Age, I could be wrong but they mentioned it more than once.

    Anyway we had life cereal, and talked about our changes for the day. Last night we rethought our dinner. I am so happy I have one kid that is willing to be healthy!
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited January 2006
    I don't like those surgery shows.

    They always get their breasts done and they have these huge implants put in, and they're so pleased. Nobody ever takes the bandages off and has one a different size and shape with a big frigging scar across it. And where do these people get the money for this stuff anyway?



    Give me CSI any night.



    Theresa - Have you been off of work? Last week you had a chemo-room day, now platlets. Do you have a good strategy for managing your boss?
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited January 2006

    No Rose this is was in the autopsy lab, where they compared healthy organs to unhealthy organs. It was a very science oriented show.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2006
    "Knocking me for a loop." Anyway you look at it, that is what chemo does...sooo sucks...

    Theresa, I am glad that you are seeing improvement...soo right on! This winter weather does not help. Stay strong, and even if you can't wear the rose colored glasses,just keep holding them in your hand. Spring is right around the corner...blue skies, growing things...

    i have been getting out in the yard a bit, the garden is so forgiving, it does not seem to be too bothered that i left it unattended for a year. i just love it, pruning away like a crazy woman.

    I am soooo Survivor Done, thank you Cowgirl...

    You - the owners manual ...great book..Love CSI if i can stay awake ...watched the miami one the other night.

    Speaking of breathing, my pt said that after lymph removal it is really good for your lymph system to take nice big deep inhalations and exhalations from time to time...

    bummed to see the yummy viactiv carmels i got at costco have hydogenated oils...

    i would never have surgery for anything if i had it my way, what about the plastic surgery junkie that has been on oprah several times that needs a q tip to help her get a good breath. bizarre...

    it must be past the middle of winter now?

    live strong...
    laura
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited January 2006
    It's EARLY SPRING.

    When I came out of the dungeon that is my work - the subbasement it wasn't dark yesterday. Slowly it is getting lighter.

    Bummer about those calcium chews. I like them.
  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited January 2006
    Quote:

    Theresa - Have you been off of work? Last week you had a chemo-room day, now platlets. Do you have a good strategy for managing your boss?




    I couldn't repeat my words after I read this. Because of course I need a strategy! Why couldn't I remember that.

    Wanna help create one?

    --Theresa
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited January 2006

    Well there is the old theatre trick visualize him or her sitting on toilet naked while they are speaking to you! It tends to not sting as bad, plus then you are happy everytime you see them!

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited January 2006
    I assume you can't just waltz in and quit, much as you might like to.... It sounds like you're getting adjusted to the new treatments, can you plan out your workload over the next months?

    It sounded to me like you were more a developer than someone supporting a production system. In theory you should be able to set your own pace/schedule if that's the case.

    Lots of times if you can be reliable, even if you aren't at full strength, that will appease people. Then they know what they can count on you for.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2006
    ouch rose...how long have you been carpal tunnel?

    lol....laura
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited January 2006

    I recommend track balls. Fixed my wrist problems right up!

  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited January 2006

    LOL Yeah Rose has it!

  • Teresa44
    Teresa44 Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2006
    Hi Cowgirl,

    I am now reading the book "You the Manuel". It has some very interesting things in the book. It is well worth the cost. I am only on chapter 4 so I know there is a lot more that I will learn.

    God Answers Prayers

    Teresa44
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited February 2006
    I saw my PCP. My b/p and cholesterols are 'wonderful'.
    She thinks that a lot of it is genetic, you're either have problems or not, and that my low numbers probably won't be changed into the bad range by menopause.

    Since calcium supplements cause me digestive unpleasantness she thinks stick with the chews. They have hydrogenated oils but since my Mom has good cholesterol and bone loss I'm better off fighting bone loss. The chews must be popular because she knew all about them...

    I'll look for 'You the Manuel' at the library. Is it in the health section?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Rose, my feelings on the chews...if a little hydorgenated oils brings me down, so be it..congrats on your excellent tests and genes...yes, you the manual is in the health section

    i take high blood pressure meds but am okay in cholesterol land. i have got to schedule up with pcp, haven't seen since treatment. also need to get eyes checked...taxes...there goes my laundry list of things to do..

    what is the bad range of menopause?

    i have a serious hot flash when i wake up in the morning, is this normal?

    Laura
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited February 2006
    I'd read that the reason women don't develop these problems unti later in life is that estrogen protects you from them. So I'd assumed my good readings would go 'bad' with menopause. But I guess the difference isn't that big.

    Did you develop high blood pressure after chemo? Someone else I know had developed that problem.

    I tend to get hot flashes in the evenings. If I stay up later than I"m used to then I'll get flushed. For me I think it's stress invoked.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    no had high blood pressure before dx...

    just got home from getting script filled...onc also gave me another 100 ativan! i had run out but have been dealing with some family stuff, picking up my fathers ashes from my step mom on tuesday and wanted to be prepared for a potentially stressful situation...

    blood pressure is well under control...used to be very stressed, type a, overachiever...

    not anymore...one of the nicer gifts from bc...

    i do think chemo was hard on my heart, i also think coq10 helps...

    calcium is something to be really mindful of for sure...

    it is raining here but definitely

    EARLY SPRING! Yah!!

    Laura
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited February 2006
    Ativan girl!

    When my husband had chemo it didn't do his bp in, but I've heard that from several women who've had chemo. Perhaps it will settle down better. I think doctors are very aware of bp. If mine is high when they first take it I've noticed that the doc will take it him/her-self later in the appointment.

    It's been fairly warm here also. Yeah.....
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited February 2006
    Okay I am back, I have the flu. Yeah I know I should have gotten the shot, but this year it seemed like there was no time.

    CoQ10 really helps Laura, my SIL uses it and she has stinns(sp?). Bummer your bp changed with dx!

    Rose congrats on good numbers! What a feat!

    I lost weight but I think it will probably jump back on once I want to eat again. Right now everything tastes the same! I only eat to take meds.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    cowgirl, sorry about your flu i got a bad cold that i am just getting over, had the flu in december and had the shot.
    i want my money back...lol
    heading down to dbf for the weekend, no more sore throat or stuffed head...
    besides coq10, i swear by zyflamend a patented co2inhibitor by new chapter...
    i do feel the difference with both of those.

    i really look to get the nutrition i need by eating the good stuff, sometimes i have to force myself. but i have definitely learned to enhjoy the foods that are good for me.

    have a fantastic weekend, healing and fun...

    superbowl weekend...go seahawks!...if the cowboys were playing i would be for them, coach landry was a hereo to me when i was a kid...

    dating myself!

    love, laura
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited February 2006
    You've got to be relgious about washing your hands.

    I never thought that made a difference until I became a mother.
  • Mena
    Mena Member Posts: 426
    edited February 2006
    Great thread. Even Dr. Love advocates a low-fat, high fiber diet for anyone who has/had bc...I like whole grain cereals, raisins, all kinds of fruits and veggies and that whole-grain bread I just bought, but don't remember the name.

    Dr. Weil always cautions readers about false advertising. A product is not made of whole grain unless it says so in the ingredients. Whole wheat is not whole grain. Marketers have ways of fooling us, so always check the "ingredients" to see if "whole grain" is actually what is inside.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    thanks mena for bringing the mojo over here...i am going to have to reread dr. loves book, read it soo much after dx havent picked it up recently...
    loved shipper book after breast cancer too. want to read that again also.

    anyway speaking of books, bought you the manual yesterday and i really like it, very easy reading and good information about the WHOLE body and it is so refreshing to just look at your body as everyone else does, instead of through the bc glasses...

    omega-three...i take the supplement because i can't afford nor want to eat all that wild salmon each week...
    didn't realize that omega-three helps the calcium situation also...

    hope everybody is having a great weekend...

    cowgirl, can you go without bra with your nipples?
    my little wheels are starting to turn about that procedure...

    i went to the ocean today, watched the surfers, watched the fisherman, walked hand in hand with my most wonderful boyfriend...life is good...

    be well,
    laura
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited February 2006
    My one headlight nipple hasn't been trimmed yet, they shrink after the tatoo so he is waiting. Right now I still have to wear loose shirts(since Oct) or people tend to stare at my headlight!

    The jog bra helps me lift more, so I wear it during working hours, but not at home if I don't need it. I tend to feel better if I wear it, but that is me.

    We worked cattle yesterday and washed goats. I could spend hours and hours with animals. They tend to make me so happy.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    working cattle and washing goats, what great exercise!

    i have been craving sugar lately, never have any around the house and end up with a bowl of my sons lucky charms...<g>

    anyone ever gone through that? sugar craving not the lucky charms...

    while i am at it...caffiene, coffee in particular...something i picked up during chemo to give me energy but wondering if the two cups in the morning is okay...
    i drink about 3 cups of green tea a day...no soda...

    it is wonderful early spring here, got the roses all pruned, a year of debris removed and am rocking on in the dirt...
    next month, the house, that is after a trip to vegas and visit with me mom...

    life is good!

    laura
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited February 2006
    I think two cups of coffee a day is moderate. I'm an addict so consider the source!

    Lucky Charms are good. Sometimes when I get on a sweet tooth kick I can derail it by eatting something salty. It distracts my sweet receptors.
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited February 2006

    Tried applesauce in oatmeal cookies instead of all the butter. The cookies didn't get cripsy, they rose more, but are still worth eatting.

  • KariLynn
    KariLynn Member Posts: 1,079
    edited February 2006

    Rose - do you substitute that 1 for 1 or is there a trick?? Have wanted to try applesauce in baking but haven't yet.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited February 2006
    It isn't quite one for one. The hitch with the oatmeal cookies is that you need the brown sugar to get the right taste, so reducing the sugar when you do the applesauce instead is trickier.

    I put one cup of applesauce and 1/2 cup of butter. Try as you might, you can't get away from the fact that butter is better!

    For baking:
    General notes: Reducing fat will give baked goods a denser texture; to correct for this, try increasing the sugar in the recipe and/or beating the egg whites and folding them into the batter. Also try using a softer flour, like pastry or cake flour.

    applesauce (Applesauce can replace up to ¾ of the shortening in many recipes. Add with the liquid ingredients and reduce sugar in recipe if the applesauce is sweetened.) OR

    pureed prunes (Pureed prunes can replace up to ¾ of the shortening in many recipes; it works especially well with chocolate. Add with the liquid ingredients.) OR

    apple butter (Apple butter can replace up to ¾ of the shortening in many recipes, also reduce sugar in recipe if the apple butter is sweetened. Add with the liquid ingredients.) OR

    fruit-based fat substitutes (Especially good when baking with chocolate; add with the liquid ingredients. For best results, substitute only 3/4 of the fat with this.)OR

    ricotta cheese (This works well in many yeast breads that call for solid fat. Substitute measure for measure. For best results, substitute no more than 3/4 of the fat with this.) OR

    bananas (mashed) (Substitute measure for measure.) OR

    omit or reduce (In many recipes for quick breads, muffins, and cookies, you can reduce the amount of fat in the recipe by about a third without seriously compromising the quality.

    oil (Avoid substituting oils for solid fats when baking cookies, cakes, and pastries; it will make the dish greasy and dense. If you must do so, substitute 3 parts oil for every 4 parts solid fat and consider increasing the amount of sugar and eggs in the recipe. Pie crusts made with oil aren't as flaky as those made with solid fat.)
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited February 2006
    Oh well my SIL took me to a wonderful thing last night. A Taste of Home Cooking School, it is a magazine my DH whole family subscribes to. It is a lot like Paula Dean cooking, so while I liked watching it there was very little that I would cook. They did do a marinated salad, and I was happy about it until her dressing she popped 1 cup of sugar into!

    Supposedly their website has lowfat recipes, but I didn't see any last night!

    I made chicken, broccoli and brown rice Sunday with chicken stock and ranch style dip powder. The family loved it, if I can just get them tasty stuff maybe they will be a bit more healthy!
  • wilsontp
    wilsontp Member Posts: 104
    edited February 2006
    I need some nutrition help. One of the studies I might have done would increase the oxygen released in my brain while doing whole brain rads. I don't qualify, but prognosis looks better with the additional oxygen.

    So, the question is whether I can do this naturally in my diet. Any ideas?

    --Theresa

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