Support for low-fat high-fiber diet

cowgirl

Well I sauted a bit of gold pepper, onions and a few mushrooms to put on a pizza slice! Yummmmy good!

wilsontp

I've put fruit and veggies back in. This weekend, I've been trying to load up on protein to drive up the RBC. I think it's working as well!

--Theresa

cowgirl

Great Theresa! Protein is the only thing that will bring those numbers up! And if you chose lean protein it works, our goats are on high protein diet now and they are gaining a lot of muscle! Course they eat a ton of afalpha too!

saskia

Hi cowgirl, why is it when I see your avatar I think of a nice juicy steak.

Having rads and I think it is affecting my appetite which would be a good thing.

I need to join you guys but still too tired from all the treatment but so glad this section is here hope you dont mind me lurking for a while, hope all your determination will rub off on me.

Good luck with the scales I have actually hidden mine and with my residing chemo brain, have no idea where it is, probably in the same place I put my new christmas ear rings and my favourite necklace

cowgirl

I actually rarely eat steak, sometimes I eat a really good hamburger. I do love a good steak, and I do know how to grill a good one! Ranchers and Farmers eat well and often! They eat a lot more veggies everyday than I ever did as a kid. I really am a chicken lover, which ticks off my hubby but he knows how much I love Chicken! Feel free to lurk away or post!

Well I am late to feed the goats and the love to eat!

Anonymous

sidewalk salad is what my dbf calls field mix which i love...
he is a head lettuce guy, walks on the wild side with romaine...lol...

happy monday, good to see you down here saskia...

did very well this weekend but still need to get the fat down a bit, seems i can't eat anything that others prepare...too much of the butters and creams....

i have a ps appt this afternoon..theresa will be thinking of you this week with a zap it gemzar prayer..

trying to wean from the boards a bit..

lots of abundant life to everyone...

got to go feed this old goat...hee haw...

laura

roseg

I went to the grocery store and asked the butcher for 4 pounds of beef tenderloin. He hunted around and came back with one that was 4 1/2 pounds. I said fine. He weighed it and it cost $71.00!!! Nothing is too good for DH who turned 49.

I took it home, roasted it - very carefully. I sliced it and gently re-heated it the next day. There was not one morsel left. We served 8. DH said it would have cost us $300 in a resturant to get a similar dinner.

Unfortnatly they didn't eat all the flourless choclate cake. I think I'm going to freeze that and get it out later. It is nothing but choclate, sugar and egg.

My half-pound got lost, but I'm going to try again this week.

cowgirl

Laura you crack me up! I love field greens and yes Hubby thinks they are not very good.

Rose it is delicious! And yes very expensive, but the normal portion would be about 3 oz! Next party I will give you tips to make it melt in your mouth, I have a natural tenderizer for Beef and chicken. You have to be careful though it will tenderize it too much if you wait too long!

I want that cake recipe!! How many WW points is it?

I am trying to check in less but we will see how I do! So far not good at all!

Anonymous

found some incredibly high fiber/protein cookies at whole foods...
adding more protein to my diet for healing...:)))

my seventeen son told me dinner was good...rice, chicken breast, cauliflower, broccholi, carrots...
good boy!

cowgirl, don't worry, we do plenty for the beef market...but follow a mediterranean diet, portion wise...

g'day to all!

laura

roseg

I'm coming to think that portion size is the key.

Laura- oddly my kids will eat healthy if it's offered. They don't like mixed up things, so steamed vegies with chicken will do down. They're 17 & 20, I wonder when they'll start liking mixed up stuff.

Theresa - glad to hear you have a new plan. I sure hope the taxol isn't as nasty as the last one. We need you to be able to eat so you can be low-fat with us!

cowgirl

Rose and Laura I think it is all in portion control and the addition of enough veggies and fruits. I went to the store and found something called bella mushrooms, they are the color of Portabellas but the size of button mushrooms.

Tonight I am making eggplant, mushrooms and broccoli. Laura it really does help if they are not all the same color thanks! I still have a bit of the gold pepper I may have to find a place to stick that in. I am very hungry for chicken, I am going to find some on sale if I can!

Variety helps me too I think!

wilsontp

Well, taxotere isn't fun but I should lose another 10 pounds. Not too sorry about that. I'm thinking I have to get back to the low fat diet. But, nothing tasted good except strawberries and lemons last time. I'm thinking if I make smoothy with low-fat ice-cream or yogurt and strawberries, that should keep it fairly healthy.

I need to make a plan, but I'm just too tired.

I think, at best, the Xeloda was just keeping the cancer at bay, not actively fighting it. While I don't want to lose my hair with taxotere, at least it will fight the beast.

--Theresa

cowgirl

Theresa,
I know you really don't want to lose your hair, but I am so happy they found something that can help you fight the beast.

My kids sometimes eat smoothies instead of supper. Get hubby to get you some frozen fruit to keep in freezer, that is what i do, then they add a bit of yogurt and ice.

How about blueberries? Does that sound good? My one son loves blueberry smoothies.

wilsontp

Usually blueberries aren't something I enjoy, but they actually sound good, so who knows? I'll find out in the next few hours and days that's for sure.

--Theresa

cowgirl

Good Theresa they are loaded with anti oxidents and Iron I think!

roseg

They're supposed to help with your memory.
Heaven knows we all need help in that department.

Anonymous

I HATE Taxotere but I HATE THE BEAST even more and it is time to shrink those spots to nothing, Theresa...

My heart goes out to you having to sit down in that chair again...

Eat what you can, I craved protein when I was T'in and that was about it...
I forced myself to do juices as much as possible for nutrients...

found some low fat cheese and whole wheat tortillas at whole foods and made some quesadillas to go with steak and salad last night...

son loved it...gave me a kiss on cheek and thanked me for dinner afterwards...
really enjoying my boy these days...

going to be selling my house and moving south to boyfriend when son graduates in june...he is going with...

i am in total cleaning, packing, selling, fixing mode...<g>

loving 2006...will love it more when theresa kicks some beast butt...taxotere is your ally with that i know it...

no rain...no rainbows...

.............

laura

cowgirl

The one thing I do know is Hubby's aunt is 82, and she eats a cup of blueberries everyday. She says it helps her heart work better.

Theresa get as much food down as you can before treatment. And afterward you can hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.

wilsontp

So, I'm on weekly Taxotere. Never done this before, it's supposed to be gentler and there's an off chance I'll keep my hair.

I had a procrit shot yesterday. I swear, that did wonders!

I think my diet is (somewhat) better. I had blueberry muffins for breakfast/lunch. Then I had spinach salad, corn, fruit salad, mashed potatoes and pork chops for dinner. So, it's not exactly low fat, but it's certainly more balanced.

I also bought apple cider which I love mulled, so I'll try and drink that tonight!

I'm almost thinking at this point that if I can sort of plan my meals in advance, I might be better off. Then, during those times I'm too tired to decide, it'll just be there.

Laura, it sounds like you are sooo moving past this ordeal. My son isn't as outward loving as yours right now, but I never have to ask twice and I treasure that. He's much better at that people stuff than his Dad or sister. They're trying, but just not as good as he is.

Part of me would love to move, but that would be to move away from this struggle and physically starting over wouldn't solve anything - unless, maybe, it were in Hawaii or the Keys. That might be something.

Sorry, I'm rambling. I'll stop now.

--Theresa

maryannecb

Just started my diet this week too. Gained 15 pounds on FAC.
Trying hard to keep portions reasonable and am pushing exercise when I can tolerate it. Am very achey today from first taxotere 5 days ago. Hope a good sleep will fix it.
Fists up!

Anonymous

a lot to be said for portions and getting green portions, orange portions, blue portions, etc...

my neighbor told me today, the darker the color of veggie or fruit the better it is for you...

i worked in the yard yesterday and today for the first time since surgery at the end of 04...

it was so wonderful, i love digging in the dirt.

my lovely garden became a jungle as i did nothing for the last year...and now in the rain, i return...

really have to get some upper body strength with no pain going here in 06...

and i will, with the help of a few muscle relaxers as needed...

theresa, my son and i go in and out of wonderfulness and right now we are in...

congrats to you, raising a outward loving son, not an easy feat, for sure...

yes, i am so ready to move...

i never shared my career and cancer story here, am currently unemployed....you have heard the story on these threads before.

these days i am feeling what many survivors do...where life is richer and more meaningful than before. i don't get caught up in b.s.and am completely mindful of my body and its needs. the past is the past and i live in the present.

may it always be so...

talk about rambling!

came to post a study from my 'puter archives...

............

laura

Anonymous

Low-Fat Diet May Lower Risk of Breast Cancer Recurrence

Researchers from the Women’s Intervention Nutrition Study have found for the first time that a dietary intervention to reduce fat intake improves relapse-free survival by 24% in postmenopausal women with early stage breast cancer compared with women following a standard diet. The women in the study had all undergone surgery to remove their tumors, and were receiving standard follow-up care.

“This study may well represent the first lifestyle change – namely, lowering dietary fat intake – that can have a favorable effect on breast cancer outcome,” said Rowan T. Chlebowski, MD, PhD, a medical oncologist at the Los Angeles Biomedical Research Institute at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center and the study’s lead author. The U.S.-based study was a prospective randomized phase III trial of patients from 37 states.

Researchers compared the incidence of breast cancer recurrence – including local/regional and distant recurrences and any new cancers in the opposite breast – between 975 postmenopausal women with early-stage breast cancer who consumed a low-fat diet (averaging 33.3 g of fat daily) and 1,462 early-stage breast cancer patients who followed a standard diet (averaging 51.3 g of fat/day). The women on the low-fat diet also received eight biweekly nutrition counseling sessions, as well as ongoing counseling with a nutritionist every three months. The study began in 1994, enrolling patients ages 48 to 79. Results were reported after a median of five years of follow-up.


At the end of the follow-up period, 9.8% of the women on the low-fat diet experienced a recurrence of their cancer, compared with 12.4% of those on the standard diet. The risk reduction was even greater for women with estrogen receptor-negative cancers, which is considered a marker for poorer prognosis; these women on the low-fat diet had a 42% lower risk of recurrence than those following a standard diet.

“If these results are confirmed in additional trials, reduction of dietary fat intake could be considered part of the management of breast cancer in postmenopausal women,” concluded Dr. Chlebowski.

Lead Author:
Rowan T. Chlebowski, MD, PhD
Los Angeles Biomedical Research Institute
Torrance, CA
May 2005

cowgirl

I love this thread !

Theresa it sounds like a great meal to me! You did your veggies and your protein!

That moving on is a goal for all of us! I am hopeful I can move on soon!

My son and I are not in wonderfulness, but then again he is a good kid just a pain sometimes! Laura so glad you have wonderfulness anytime!

Anyhow I am off for one more cup of coffee!

Thanks for posting that study, I needed to be reminded!

Maryann so glad you joined here!

wilsontp

I think that study is part of why Northwestern is now emphasizing that diet. The two things to note are that the study was done with post-menopausal women and the benefit was greater with ER- women. I'm not either, but I was still told there was most likely a benefit.

Plus, it helps me lose weight.

Welcome Mary Ann.

--Theresa

maryannecb

Glad to be here, need a site like this to remember that our bodies have to stay healthy even though we are filling them full of chemo!
Fists up!

MeSuDe

Diet is it!!!

Diet is it!!!

Imagine watching people drink Soda-pop (acidic) while taking Chemo.
Ask your oncologist, what you can eat -- The Imbecile will reply "whatever you want"

Of course they want to make money by treating people, not letting them cure.

Best alternatives for healthy survival are Omega 3, Flax seed, sugar free diet (as PETScan proves, cancer cells thrive on sugar)



GOOGLE the following line/s to learn of more research.

"Dietary Flaxseed Alters Tumor Biological Markers in Postmenopausal Breast Cancer "

"Primrose Oil Component Cuts Levels Of Cancer-causing Gene Her-2/neu"

Turmeric (Organic and pure), Holy Basil and Neem are additional good agents

Go for a sugar free diet.

42 days of Bruce Cancer diet every 2 years (read up on cleansing/detox via juice diets)
(50 beet juice, 20 % carrot, 20% celery, 5% radish, 5% potato juice) no more than 500 ml per day


Flaxseed has tremendous benefits.

God bless

roseg

33 gm of fat is a pretty reasonable amount. One diet I saw wanted you on 20 gm, and it's pretty hard to do that.

I'm a meal planner. Hauling groceries around was the first thing I ditched after my surgery. It's had the unintended effect of making me do a week at a time. It's not always healthy, or low-fat but at least it's there. Thursday is pizza day and Tuesday is mac&cheese day.

Anonymous

really like my oatmeal for breakfast...
i add walnuts, blueberries, banana, candied ginger, ground flax seed...

hope everyone is settling in to a good year and good eating.

theresa, i like to have a few back-up meals in the fridge in case i don't feel up to cooking at the moment...

physical therapy has totally helped me with scar tissue problems....next my pt is going to show me how to build my upper body strength.

i am going to get buff with my new boobs!

laura

cowgirl

Just watched this show on TLC called You the Manuel. It detailed what high fat and sugar does to your organs. It is also a book written by two cardiologists. I am going to look for it on the net.

Tomorrow it must be an oatmeal day I told my son, we have to take care of ourselves!

wilsontp

Cowgirl, I'll have to look for that show. I need something to motivate me right now.

Laura, I'd love to get far enough ahead to just breathe. Got a unit of platelets last Friday, 2 units of whole blood on Monday and wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a unit of platelets in my future today. I need a servant! Yeah, that's it.

Honestly, my family is doing what they can. I just have to wait the initial treatment out. I think I'm seeing improvements in only 2 chemos, so that's good. Still, it's knocking me for a loop.

--Theresa