Sarah Palin Coming to Hamilton for Cancer Centre Fundraiser
I am shocked and appalled that the Jurvinski Cancer Centre has decided to host an event as a fundraiser, featuring Sarah Palin. I am a big supporter of the JCC and have a great appreciation for the expertise and compassion of the professionals on staff. However, Sarah Palin, at best, represents a poor comedy routine, better left to late night TV. I cannot believe anyone would seriously attend, especially considering that they are adding $200,000 to her pocket. She has already received $5 million as an advance from her publisher - so really - how much is she "giving" to the JCC campaign by her presence? ...just a few other reasons for them to reconsider the event.
- *as Governor of Alaska she actively promoted the aerial killing of wolves by hunters in low-
- flying planes and offered a bounty for the foreleg of each wolf killed!
* she describes the Iraq war as: "a task that is from God...a plan that is God's
- plan." (Huffington Post, Tuesday, September 02, 2008)
- *she laughed when a controversial Alaskan DJ insulted a political rival and made a joke about
- her cancer and weight.(Anchorage Daily News, Sunday, January 27, 2008)
Getting a good speaker is an important coup for any charitable organization but what does selecting Sarah Palin say about Jurvinski.
Why isn't there a suitable Canadian speaker or someone else who would have an inspiring and intelligent message.?
I have written to the VP Development Manager with my feelings about this event and asked him to reconsider. If it goes ahead I plan to protest it in any way I can.
Perhaps I'm alone in my feelings here. I'm curious what others here think.
Here is his e-mail. aliroger@hhsc.ca aliroger@hhsc.ca
His Name is Mr. R. Ali
sunshine2003
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Hope this works (you tube link)- Here's Marg Delahunty (comedian from 22 Minutes) who gets an unbelievable quote from Sarah Palin criticizing our health care system. She pretended to be a reporter at a booksigning in Columbus, Ohio. You can also watch the you tube video. Hope the link works.
I'm really upset, can you tell?
Here's Sarah's answer regarding Canadian healthcare - keep in mind she's been invited by Hamilton Health Sciences including the Jurvinski Cancer Centre to come and speak? Unbelievable!
"Canada needs to dismantle its public health-care system and allow private enterprise to get involved and turn a profit."
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You've got to be kidding me! Since when is breast cancer political? When someone volunteers to help raise money for you, you don't attack them because they have different opinions from your own! I normally donate $100 every year for breast cancer, but thanks to your big mouth, I'll be contributing that $100 to a different cancer fundraiser from now on!
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Sarah Palin is not volunteering to help raise money. She is being hired to speak for $200,000 and she has publicly declared that Canada should dismantle it's public health care system and allow private enterprise to profit instead. There are much better speakers than Sarah Palin. For those of us who have benefitted from a strong universal health care system, Sarah Palin's words are poison.
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Sunshine,
I am with you. What on earth can Sarah Palin possibly say to Canadians about our health care system? The idea of PAYING her to speak here is ludicrous! As you mention, she has already stated that Canada should dismantle its public health care system!!!! Right. Like that is going to happen.
hrf, you raise an excellent point! It is one thing if Palin were volunteering her services, but to PAY her! Ridiculous.
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I would speak for FREE! I could certainly do it with less faux pas and embarrassing opportunities to be mocked on the comedy channel!
I bet they figure if they get a woman, it'll be supported more. They just picked the wrong woman!
There are an awful lot of glorious Canadian women that could do a true service.
And little petey up there better keep HIS big mouth shut. Without a signature line, I'm guessing HE doesn't have breast cancer. Who is he, Mr. Pallin? ehhehehehhehhehe As for different opinions "than your own" hey buddy, we're talking about a whole NATION, not just the posters' opinion!!!
Why don't you donate your $100 to anal cancer....
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A couple of clarifications.....
Sarah Palin is being paid $200,000 she is not volunteering - more than likely she's promoting her book
The organization that is behind this event is the Hamilton Health Sciences which includes the Jurvinski Cancer Centre and 3 other very large city hospitals.
The Cancer Centre treats 100's of people every day with all types of cancer, not just breast cancer.
While I wholeheartedly disagree with many of her opinions and think she's a disgrace to Americans - that is my personal belief - not a reason to prevent her from speaking in Canada
It is the fact that someone of her calibre would be speaking and representing such fine organizations as the Jurvinski Centre. That is a disgrace.
sunshine2003
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PeteCam - I noticed you just joined this discussion group as of yesterday. Perhaps your support of Sarah Palin motivated you to join this group. However, this is an excellent breast cancer site for which I've been a member of for 6 years (used 2 different usernames). It provides much needed peer support and information for people in an overwhelming time. Please do not post again unless you by chance have a connection with the site and can reply with some sensitivity. Your comments are inappropriate and inaccurate. I will be contacting the Discussion Board administrator.
Sunshine2003
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Well, if it's any consolation, Palin wasn't their first choice -- just the one celebrity who grabbed at the chance to make an easy $200K. The organizers would be smart to NOT let her speak!
And as I understand it, the hospitals didn't choose her; the independent event organizers did, and then offered the proceeds to the Juravinski Centre and St Peter's Hospital. But unless they manage to get the entire event sponsored, they won't be making any money......
Good grief, I just can't think of a poorer choice....
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Well, it seems you have bought into the Sarah Palin character assasinations, hook line and sinker. The caricatures you see of this woman are not who she really is. To me, she is the one person who just might rescue America from the current administrations efforts to destroy the US constitution by spending us into oblivion. When, I watched this video I saw a rude, line jumping, nut case with an agenda to bash Palin, try to confront her in a hostile matter. I heard Sarah very gratiously respond to this woman nonetheless. You may not like her answer, but she responded kindly and without the hostility that was unleashed on her. She could have easily ignored this rude woman, but she did not. The fact is most Americans do not want a Canadian system. We want to choose our own destiny and not have the government decide our every move. That is why almost 2 million Americans marched on Washington last Sept 12th, even though they were totally ignored by the press. The current US congress is pushing through bill after bill, without even reading them, even though they are being bombarded with letters and phone calls to read the bills and listen to the American people.
Obama is now the lowest polling first term president in the history of polling. As he continues to lose support, he will be a lame duck in his first term, and he will feign some illness so he will have an excuse not to run again since he will lose. Get use to seeing a lot more of Sarah Palin. She will be the first women US president. And try to find out who she really is, not the person the liberal press loves to hate. The NYT put 11 reporters on researching the facts in her book, and could not find any fabrications. Not one reporter ever vetted Obama's books, which are full of unanswered questions and lies. Palin released her health records, including details of her 5 childbirths. Obama has not released any of his. What illness is he hiding? Palin released all of her school records. Reporters were sent to Wasilla to interview her kindergarten teacher. Yet, we have not seen any of Obama's school records, and no one has ever asked any of his teachers what kind of student he was. What is this man hiding? Was he just another average student, instead of the "genius" the press promotes? The truth will eventually come out and Obama will be disgraced. In the meantime, I am thrilled that Sarah Palin is out there, speaking out and speaking up. As the mother of a special needs child, I am sure she will put women and children's health issues at the forefront of her administration. I can't wait. And I can't wait to hear what she has to say in Hamilton.
By the way, all politicians get paid to speak. Obama routinely appears at party fundraisers where people must cough up thousands to see him. Bill Clinton has made millions in speaking engagements, and lets not forget how much Al Gore has made, over 40 million last year, flying around the world with his global warming pseudo science. He has perfected the art of self promotion. And Barack Obama spent the two years he was supposed to serving as my senator, flying all over the country, selling his book of lies and promoting himself for president. He hardly even bothered to show up to vote, so that his votes could not be used against him. So why is it criminal when Sarah Palin does the same thing? Why is it that men are applauded for doing the same thing that women are always berated for?
Run Sarah Run!
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I think you missed the whole point! Hamilton is in CANADA. We don't know why she is coming HERE!!! We don't need someone telling our country to get for-profit health insurance! We are quite happy just the way we are.
We ALL know that politicians get paid, we're not idiots. The point was that to us it makes no sense to PAY someone to raise money! We have a ton of charitible organizations that are running just fine. In fact, Canada is one of the few countries in the world that support their hospitals with about 80% in donations rather than government funding.
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Just another note: this thread is NOT about Obama and politics. Please don't make it out that way. This is a Canadian thread about a fund raiser.
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Vivre, are you trying to start a political argument on this thread? Our objection to Palin is that she does not speak to our Canadian values, as easily demonstrated by her suggestion that Canada should adopt U.S.-style healthcare.
Run Sarah Run -- all the way back to Wasilla, and please don't stop in Canada on your way.
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She doesn't speak to American values either. That's why she and McCain were not elected. Her ideas (if she has any) were rejected.
Go Canada! You guys rock.
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Please give her a warm welcome. Maybe she'll decide to stay! Hehehe
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Actually, there are many "lies" and misrepresentations in Palin's book:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/going-rogue-the-18-bigges_n_359837.html
A look at some of her statements in "Going Rogue," obtained by The Associated Press in advance of its release Tuesday:
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PALIN: Says she made frugality a point when traveling on state business as Alaska governor, asking "only" for reasonably priced rooms and not "often" going for the "high-end, robe-and-slippers" hotels.
THE FACTS: Although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor, Palin and daughter Bristol stayed five days and four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House luxury hotel (robes and slippers come standard) overlooking New York City's Central Park for a five-hour women's leadership conference in October 2007. With air fare, the cost to Alaska was well over $3,000. Event organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter. The governor billed her state more than $20,000 for her children's travel, including to events where they had not been invited, and in some cases later amended expense reports to specify that they had been on official business.PALIN: Boasts that she ran her campaign for governor on small donations, mostly from first-time givers, and turned back large checks from big donors if her campaign perceived a conflict of interest.
THE FACTS: Of the roughly $1.3 million she raised for her primary and general election campaigns for governor, more than half came from people and political action committees giving at least $500, according to an AP analysis of her campaign finance reports. The maximum that individual donors could give was $1,000; $2,000 for a PAC.
Of the rest, about $76,000 came from Republican Party committees.
She accepted $1,000 each from a state senator and his wife in the weeks after the two Republican lawmakers' offices were raided by the FBI as part of an investigation into a powerful Alaska oilfield services company. After AP reported those donations during the presidential campaign, she said she would give a comparative sum to charity after the general election in 2010, a date set by state election laws.
PALIN: Rails against taxpayer-financed bailouts, which she attributes to Obama. She recounts telling daughter Bristol that to succeed in business, "you'll have to be brave enough to fail."
THE FACTS: Palin is blurring the lines between Obama's stimulus plan – a $787 billion package of tax cuts, state aid, social programs and government contracts – and the federal bailout that Republican presidential candidate John McCain voted for and President George W. Bush signed.
Palin's views on bailouts appeared to evolve as McCain's vice presidential running mate. In September 2008, she said "taxpayers cannot be looked to as the bailout, as the solution, to the problems on Wall Street." A week later, she said "ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy."
During the vice presidential debate in October, Palin praised McCain for being "instrumental in bringing folks together" to pass the $700 billion bailout. After that, she said "it is a time of crisis and government did have to step in."
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PALIN: Says Ronald Reagan faced an even worse recession than the one that appears to be ending now, and "showed us how to get out of one. If you want real job growth, cut capital gains taxes and slay the death tax once and for all."
THE FACTS: The estate tax, which some call the death tax, was not repealed under Reagan and capital gains taxes are lower now than when Reagan was president.
Economists overwhelmingly say the current recession is far worse. The recession Reagan faced lasted for 16 months; this one is in its 23rd month. The recession of the early 1980s did not have a financial meltdown. Unemployment peaked at 10.8 percent, worse than the October 2009 high of 10.2 percent, but the jobless rate is still expected to climb.
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PALIN: She says her team overseeing the development of a natural gas pipeline set up an open, competitive bidding process that allowed any company to compete for the right to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48.
THE FACTS: Palin characterized the pipeline deal the same way before an AP investigation found her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline companies and ultimately benefited a company with ties to her administration, TransCanada Corp. Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with potential bidders during the process, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major candidate, including TransCanada.
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PALIN: Criticizes an aide to her predecessor, Gov. Frank Murkowski, for a conflict of interest because the aide represented the state in negotiations over a gas pipeline and then left to work as a handsomely paid lobbyist for ExxonMobil. Palin asserts her administration ended all such arrangements, shoving a wedge in the revolving door between special interests and the state capital.
THE FACTS: Palin ignores her own "revolving door" issue in office; the leader of her own pipeline team was a former lobbyist for a subsidiary of TransCanada, the company that ended up winning the rights to build the pipeline.
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PALIN: Writes about a city councilman in Wasilla, Alaska, who owned a garbage truck company and tried to push through an ordinance requiring residents of new subdivisions to pay for trash removal instead of taking it to the dump for free – this to illustrate conflicts of interest she stood against as a public servant.
THE FACTS: As Wasilla mayor, Palin pressed for a special zoning exception so she could sell her family's $327,000 house, then did not keep a promise to remove a potential fire hazard on the property.
She asked the city council to loosen rules for snow machine races when she and her husband owned a snow machine store, and cast a tie-breaking vote to exempt taxes on aircraft when her father-in-law owned one. But she stepped away from the table in 1997 when the council considered a grant for the Iron Dog snow machine race in which her husband competes.
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PALIN: Says Obama has admitted that the climate change policy he seeks will cause people's electricity bills to "skyrocket."
THE FACTS: She correctly quotes a comment attributed to Obama in January 2008, when he told San Francisco Chronicle editors that under his cap-and-trade climate proposal, "electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket" as utilities are forced to retrofit coal burning power plants to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.
Obama has argued since then that climate legislation can blunt the cost to consumers. Democratic legislation now before Congress calls for a variety of measures aimed at mitigating consumer costs. Several studies predict average household costs probably would be $100 to $145 a year.
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PALIN: Welcomes last year's Supreme Court decision deciding punitive damages for victims of the nation's largest oil spill tragedy, the Exxon Valdez disaster, stating it had taken 20 years to achieve victory. As governor, she says, she'd had the state argue in favor of the victims, and she says the court's ruling went "in favor of the people." Finally, she writes, Alaskans could recover some of their losses.
THE FACTS: That response is at odds with her reaction at the time to the ruling, which resolved the long-running case by reducing punitive damages for victims to $500 million from $2.5 billion. Environmentalists and plaintiffs' lawyers decried the ruling as a slap at the victims and Palin herself said she was "extremely disappointed." She said the justices had gutted a jury decision favoring higher damage awards, the Anchorage Daily News reported. "It's tragic that so many Alaska fishermen and their families have had their lives put on hold waiting for this decision," she said, noting many had died "while waiting for justice."
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PALIN: Describing her resistance to federal stimulus money, Palin describes Alaska as a practical, libertarian haven of independent Americans who don't want "help" from government busybodies.
THE FACTS: Alaska is also one of the states most dependent on federal subsidies, receiving much more assistance from Washington than it pays in federal taxes. A study for the nonpartisan Tax Foundation found that in 2005, the state received $1.84 for every dollar it sent to Washington.
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PALIN: Says she tried to talk about national security and energy independence in her interview with Vogue magazine but the interviewer wanted her to pivot from hydropower to high fashion.
THE FACTS are somewhat in dispute. Vogue contributing editor Rebecca Johnson said Palin did not go on about hydropower. "She just kept talking about drilling for oil."
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PALIN: "Was it ambition? I didn't think so. Ambition drives; purpose beckons." Throughout the book, Palin cites altruistic reasons for running for office, and for leaving early as Alaska governor.
THE FACTS: Few politicians own up to wanting high office for the power and prestige of it, and in this respect, Palin fits the conventional mold. But "Going Rogue" has all the characteristics of a pre-campaign manifesto, the requisite autobiography of the future candidate.
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AP writers Matt Apuzzo, Sharon Theimer, Tom Raum, Rita Beamish, Beth Fouhy, H. Josef Hebert, Justin D. Pritchard, Garance Burke, Dan Joling and Lewis Shaine contributed to this report.As for the poll numbers: Ronald Reagan's was 49% in this first year (and he didn't have 2 wars and a financial collapse). The recession when Reagan became president WAS NOT as bad as the one right now.
There is no reason for her coming her.
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Sarah Palin in a controversial public figure who has said some controversial things about Canada. For exactly that reason, those who selected her as the speaker likely feel that she will be a good draw - some will come because they like and/or support her; some because they think they'll see a sideshow act; some because they think they may be able to straighten her out about Canadian healthcare; and others simply out of curiosity. Yes, some may protest and stay away but overall she probably will draw many more than she will drive off. So from that standpoint, she's an understandable choice and hopefully this will result in a good payout for JCC.
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I won't be going, I'm sure there'll be a recap on The Comedy Network.
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I still think it was poor decision making by the organizers. There are many worthy Canadians who would be well worth the $200,000. Hamilton is in Canada and we don't need Sarah Palin here, most especially in light of her comments about Canadian health care.
As Canadians we have a right to express our opinions. This is not a political thread.
If she is ever elected president of the United States, then Americans will get the government they deserve, whatever it may be.
In the meantime, I'll watch The Comedy Network with barbe as I agree that's where this will end up.
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Beesie -- that's exactly what I thought -- she'll bring in the money, although the hospital is sleeping with the devil to do so. I abhor that she's getting any money, but I guess it's about the greater good... I would be tempted to go just for the guffaws. Maybe to protest? When is this circus? My fav CBC shows will have a field day!!!
She must be desperate for money to take on such a speaking engagement. Or her handlers are as stupid as she for booking her into it -- what are they thinking???
Vivre-- the clip is from a Canadian comedy show -- the "rude" woman is one of the comedian's many personnas. She is just as "rude" and provocative to Canadian politicians. BTW -- Canadians don't want a US system, or anything like it! I'm b*tchy today so I'll stop typing now.
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If she is actually being paid 200,000 how much are how many expected to pay so this will be a gain for the charity? 200 at a 1000 a pop, 2000 at 100 each, 20,000 at 10 bucks? I seem to recall that the CNE lost money on Bill Clinton (but I could be wrong). Where will they have this in Hamilton Copps Colosseum? How on earth can they expect to make money on Palin - the mind boggles.
Maybe people will shuffle up from Buffalo.
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As a retired hospital fundraising executive, I have to disagree somewhat with Beesie (which is most unusual!!!). There is a saying on the celebrity circuit that no publicity is bad publicity. Well, not true when it comes to respected charities. When you're trying to raise $$ through a speaking event, you want to be able to advertise only good things about the speaker, else your charity does indeed get tarnished by her/his reputation. The last thing any charity needs is throngs of protesters outside the venue, or nasty letters to the editor (or attendees with tomatoes in their handbags).
I can only hope that she allows her speech to be vetted....and I hope the organizers make sure she knows that St. Peter's provides end-of-life discussions with its patients, and that it's funded by (in her eyes) an evil socialist government, and, and, and.....
As for the hospitals making a profit: I understand that 1,000 tickets hope to be sold, @ $200. The organizers are hoping to make extra $$ by charging for photos taken with her, and of course hoping to have the event sponsored entirely. I've been involved in speaking events which featured Peter Jennings, Elizabeth Dole, Christopher Patten and others. Never, ever would they have agreed to "photo ops with guests for a fee". And we would never have suggested it.
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blech
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
$200??????????????? You've got to be kidding me! The only politician I would spend $200 to hear is Pierre Trudeau!
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If I am correct, Canada is a Free country. You can choose to attend or not to attend the event. You can choose to support or not support the event. You can also choose to express your opinions. Obviously, there are some people who felt Sarah Palin would be an asset to the event for whatever reason.
My b/c experience in the US, is that I saw a surgeon on a Wednesday, my oncologist the next day, (Thursday} ,Pet Scan Friday, Muga Test on Monday and had all the results Monday at noon. Treatment started that week. Did you have the same service? Perhaps you did, I am just asking?
Personally, I think she is one of the few hopes of our country which is declining so rapidly. I would pay $200. to hear her in a heart beat. She is an inspiration to many in our country who are tired of the corrupt government officials. She even took down people from her own party. If you don't agree, that is really OK! We are all on different levels of awareness and that is what makes the world diverse!
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Okay, then let her speak in YOUR country!
I was diagnosed on a Wednesday and had my double mast the following Tuesday (only day surgeon has OR). That was fast, don't you think?
We happen to not think that privatized, for-profit healthcare would be good for Canada as we are rolling along just fine the way we are. Why are the US people trying to make this a political thread?
Those of us who have commented have just felt she wasn't an appropriate role model or speaker. That is my opinion from my free country Canada.
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It always kills me that you guys vote for the person to go to the White House, then spend the next four years bashing them down....if Sarah was so great, why isn't SHE sitting pretty?
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As for "levels of awareness" in Canada we don't blame the government for our standards of living. We take accountability for it ourselves. This IS a Canadian thread after all....
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This American gal (hey, wait, you're Americans, too!) supports her Canadian friends in this thread. And how sad/humrous it must be for you to watch us get into these worthless pissing contests we have here...
Anne
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S'okay Anne -- we have our little pissing contests up here too! We're not homogeneous when it comes to politics, but we have a bit more choice insofar as we have more than 2 political parties which I think results in less polarization.
And I'm sure that there are some Canadians on this forum who would be delighted to see Palin, and pay $200, and pay extra for a photo with her. I'm not one of them (or had you already guessed??
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Cheers, Linda
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Well, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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