The Respectfully Republican Conversation

Well, at least you have to actually be working to get the tax rebate this time.  Right?  No checks to people who aren't even paying the taxes.  Yes, I realize they still get it through the backdoor welfare spending but at least their not calling it a 'tax rebate' while giving to those who never paid taxes.  That was just insulting.

Always - low income wage earners who get all of their taxes back (so they don't pay federal taxes) will also get this "tax cut". It is to offset their Social Security and Medicare taxes. Those who don't work won't get it but I do believe their welfare benefits will be increased.

Oh and my $13 will go towards our new 1% sales tax increase and our 12¢ a gallon tax increase on gas.

hmmmm funny how that works.

Of course, I live in Frankenface's state.

I'm the one whose bank's idea of a mortgage "workout" plan resulted in them RAISING our payment by nearly $300 a month. I'll be sure and let you know when the "stimulus" bs helps me with THAT situation.  Don't hold your breath! LOL

(((HUGS)))
Diane

Palin in '12! If not, I am moving to Alaska! Love that Independent spirit!

Vivre,

Maybe if I change my name to minnie mouse? LOLOLOL   Wonder if the "one" will be visiting my area soon? I could rent a 38 year old son for the day (although it might be hard to explain how a 41 year old has a 38 year old son). It's be a great photo op.  (and yes, I have to laugh about this crap or I'd never stop crying).

Anybody have a link to the final draft of the bill?

Oh, man (and women), there is so much to respond to. 

Daisy, you bet the Rep forum will be shut down under the "Unfairness Doctrine Act."  We've already been slapped on the hand because we did SOMETHING wrong.  Haven't really figured out what it is, but.....and we are quite busy on this thread.  $!

MAGGOTS!  Don't get upset with me (Moody..sleep deprived Mom).  I was using graphics to explain the stench that the Unstimulus Bull reeked of.  Have you ever put raw meat or shrimp shells in the trash when it's 90 degrees outside?  Then, when you opened the trash this HORRIBLE smell comes forth right up your nostrils.  Then you look in there and there's flies and these little wormy thingies...MAGGOTS!  Well, when you throw raw meat in the trash when it's really hot and it sits there a day or so it stinks!  We don't do that anymore.  We freeze that kind of trash and put it in the trash when the trash man comes.  You see, with the Stimulus Bull, the longer it sat around..the longer the conservative pundits talked about it...the more rotten raw pork they were finding.  It stunk to high heaven.  That's why the prez and Pelosi and Reid wanted it passed right away.  They knew that over the weekend the pundits would show up and produce all the rotten, smelly pork that was added to it. 

Laura, that was a sorry con job you got.  I cannot believe a man from Illinois who has not been vetted (knowing the corruption that goes on there in Chicago) got elected. 

Vivre, You deserved the maggots after exercising. 

I hear some of the dems are having fun in Italy.  Ha!  And they talk about the CEOs flying in their private jets to beg for money.  And they yell at the "bankers" for lending money that they wanted them to.  The dims are a bunch of hypocrites.

Hi, Herbie.  Hope Moody gave you some hot chocolate.  It's only 35 degrees here.  My thermostat is like Obama's....75 degrees.  I'm from Texas and I'm used to the heat (although I haven't lived there for many, many years).  Just joking..about the thermostat.  Who can afford to stay that warm?  Besides, it's not healty (ask Vivre).

Diane, don't tell anyone, but I need to PM you soon.  You'll find out why when I PM you..it's PRIVATE.

And, darn, I was looking foward to receiving a check in the mail!  Leave it up to the dims to ruin everything.

MSNBC is a joke.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (Just because).

Shirley

Do you mean soil literally cause there are quite a few in mausoleums above ground---Both the Adam's come to mind quite a few others too--Grant for sure--Washington. Don't know the modern ones........

If you are being funny any of the ones still alive- Carter, 2 Bushes, Clinton and Obama

If you are being really obscure Tyler was buried in Virginia when it was still part of the Confederacy so technically that could qualify......

Mr. Spouse - lol - I like him! Future Repub - no doubt. He may know this one...but if not:

What is greater than God, More evil than the devil, The poor have it,
The rich Republicans don't need it, And if you eat it, you'll die?

Stock Market: Lovely...just lovely!

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Have any of you ever noticed how many new and used car lots there are? In my neck of the woods... there's one every two blocks! Huh? I often wondered about this. So, in light of the latest "U.S. auto wreck" out of curiosity, I googled my observation and found this article:  

TOO MANY CARS, NOT ENOUGH MARKET

As we watch the slow-motion train wreck that is the dying global automotive business, it's easy to blame the economic situation for the debacle. And it's certainly a very big contributing factor. Or more precisely, an accelerating factor. It has absolutely made matters worse -- and faster.

However, so far, there has been little discussion of the overcapacity issue that underlies it all -- and which is far more serious and which has been quietly bleeding the industry white for years now.

What's "overcapacity"? Simply put, too many vehicles chasing not enough market...

Read more...this article is very interesting: 

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/02/11/too-many-cars-not-enough-marke

Barry is off in AF1 again to sign his spendulous bill in Denver. WTH?? Can't he just sit at his desk and do that? Can you imagine the screaming if GW had done this? I know he loves the perks on AF1, plus probably loves all the military saluting him, it feeds his big ego, but this is getting ridiculous. I have no problem with any president using this plane whenever needed, but all these publicity stunts are getting old. Again, imagine if GW had done this.

Yes, Sherri, this is California, the train probably won't ever be built.  Some lizard probably only lives in this area so it would be an environmental impact and a no-go.  Nobama strikes again!

ABC news said yesterday that Chrysler sells, 1,000,000 cars a year.  That is enough to stay in the market if they would cut out dealerships, factories and tighten the budget.  He said all the car makers could make it if they'd do that!!!  Chrysler sells the least but that was his point, that even the little one can make it.

Here in California, you have Ford and Chevy dealers every 10 miles,  unless you're in the desert.  No dealer is supposed to be closer than 10 miles to the next one .. so in populated areas, we have a lot of them and they aren't making it.  They need to cut the dealerships.  Sadly, the fittest survive ... but we need that to happend for the "species" to make it.  They can re-grow later if need be. 

Samantha Powers handiwork is written all over this.----------You had to know from day one --thrown under the bus  she'd come crawlin' out in charge of the State Department no matter who had the title.-------She's probably biding her time till she has the Secretary of State title as well....That was probably the plan all along...........

This from Political Mavens

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Disturbing Trend
By William Katz 

   Why would the United States Government make an important announcement late on a Saturday night? The reason, of course, is to make sure it doesn’t get too much attention.

On Saturday night the Obama administration announced it is sending a delegation to assist in the planning of Durban II, a UN project known formally as the World Conference Against Racism. Sounds innocent enough, but recall that Durban I was held in Durban, South Africa, in 2001, a few days before the 9-11 attacks, and descended into an orgy of hatred, blatant anti-Semitism, and open season on Israel. The Bush administration boycotted that conference, refusing to lend it the dignity of America’s name.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said, before she took her new office, that the U.S. should boycott Durban II as well. And, indeed, planning for the conference signals a meeting even more degenerate, anti-freedom and bigoted than Durban I.

But there are apparently other voices in the administration. From the AP:

“The State Department said it would send diplomats next week to participate in preparatory meetings for the World Conference Against Racism, which is set to be held in Geneva, Switzerland in April and which some countries including Israel have already decided to boycott.

“In a statement released late Saturday, the State Department said the U.S. delegation to the planning discussions would review current direction of conference preparations and whether U.S. participation in the conference itself is warranted.”

One of the boycotting countries is Canada. President Obama visits Canada late this week, so the decision to send diplomats to those planning meetings undercuts Ottawa. Of course, undercutting allies has been a hallmark of this new administration since the moment it took office. Obama has already insulted President Karzai of Afghanistan, has undercut our East European allies on missile defense, has shown indifference to Iraqi democracy, has insulted Britain by returning a bust of Winston Churchill that sat in the Oval Office, has interfered in internal Israeli politics, and has generally signaled that allies have no greater standing than some enemies. Great stuff.

“One of the leading officials pressuring Clinton on ‘Durban 2′ is the new U.S. ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, who was Obama’s close campaign adviser.

“Rice is also pushing for the U.S. to join the UN Human Rights Council, which is based in Geneva.”

This doesn’t surprise me. It’s Rice’s reputation. We’ll be given the argument that by “participating” in these bodies, we can change them. That’s absurd. It’s never happened. By participating we simply lend them legitimacy and prestige. They will do what they wish to do. The U.S. has one vote. Once again we are sending a message of weakness, of accommodation to some of the worst governments in the world.

“The other official pushing for American participation in ‘Durban 2′ is Samantha Power, another Obama adviser at the National Security Council.

“Power participated in the initial Durban conference as the representative of a non-government organization and is known for her strong criticism of Israel.”

This is disgraceful. Apparently, the secretary of state has been cut out of the loop. The hard leftists are getting their way. True, the U.S. statement said that Washington would decide at a later date whether to participate in Durban II, based on what direction the planning took, but that looks like window dressing. If we did pull out on principle, it would be great. But I have the uneasy feeling that this initial step will simply lead to our participation. And that would be a slap at the very “American ideals” President Obama loves to talk about.

The AP story contains this intriguing line:

“Senior State Department officials contacted Israeli diplomats and asked them to take swift action to block the Durban initiative.”

The term “senior” is used carefully by experienced journalists. In this case it would apply either to the secretary of state or to those just below her, who would act only with her approval. One gets the sense of growing conflict in the administration, something that could flare up. I’ve said before in this space that Hillary Clinton might be forced out of the administration, or could even feel the need to resign in protest over policies she opposes, setting up a new battle within the Democratic Party.

Things are getting sticky.

Obama's real SOS, Susan Rice, is just doing what she is set up to do, act behind the scenes, while they send Hillary off to do some less strategic parts of the world so she is out of their hair. What I do not understand is why Hillary would take this job to begin with. It seems to me that she has put herself in a precarious situation. She can be fired at will and then Obama gets her totally out of his hair. I just hope this backfires. There are still a lot of Hillary supporters out there. If they begin to realize how Hillary is being sidestepped, they may turn on their own party. They will be the first dems to realize who they have elected. It is just a matter of time until the truth begins to come out. We will soon be a chorus of "I told you so."