The Respectfully Republican Conversation

Harley44 The disk is written with GE Medical software that will only open/run on a computer with the software installed. I tried to "crack" it open.  The only way I was even able to get access to the actual files on it was through Adobe Photoshop 4.0!  It wouldnt even let me open it through C: .  I could open the scripting pages through Notepad, but scripting didnt help with images.  The image files are inside an HTML doc and I cant even open it through my server.  UGGHH

BUT my best friends hubby is a doc so she is taking to him and he is gonna see what he can do with it.  Otherwise I am marching myself up to the hospital, walking straight back to med records and take them myself.................(sounds good anyway)

Glad Harley could help ya out. 

They are hding ACORN but its coming out today.  More people are talking about how they want to give 4 billion to ACORN in the stimulus package.

Moody, I wasn't talking about my onc.  I was talking about the radiology place that did my mammo and US after I found the lump.  They were just protecting me.  HAHA.  My onc has also given me anything I've asked for.  It's the fools that you're going to march yourself back to that I was talking about (if you friend's doc can't help you).

blah, blah, blago - Nothing new - he just keeps crying that he wants to present witnesses. What a mess...

Oooh Hawaii was great when I went last year ........ love to return. 

Speaking of beaches .... the Kennedy family has been fighting development of wind energy in Massachusetts for 8 years now, because it will mar the scenic views they enjoy from their Hyannis Port seaside palace......hmmm but it's ok to have windpower elsewhere?  We have huge windmills about 60 miles from here, it's like a farm!!   And in No California, I've seen some just before you get to SF .. But in LA where there is oil near the beaches, you see those things drilling right in a neighborhood -- maybe one, it's fenced off, then drive a few miles and you see another one of those things going up and down ...It's a fact we need energy, and it has not ruined the beauty of So Cal beaches.

They don't have to build a farm of them in Hyannis Port but what about strategic placement of them?  Gosh, we've learned how to disguise cell phone towers to look like palm trees, they can figure it out. 

If the Kennedy's would like to promote energy dependence, you'd think they would want to be shining examples!

i don't know all the details, but i heard before on fox that the dems voted very hefty increases in their office operating budgets and travel expenses etc etc etc.  i'm not exact on the details but hey my kids have to cut back in this economy.  why can't they do a little too, and not feel that they have an limitless supply of money.

Here is an article about the ACORN appropriation part

Binva,

 CAT is not directly included in the stimulus package but was presumed to be one of the main beneficiaries of it, as they supply most of the equipment for all the road construction. The analysts were suggesting it as one of the stocks in their "Benefit from Obama package" strategy.

Euphemism comes from the Greek word euphemia, which means "using the good word"-usually in place of the accurate bad one. Recently we've become experts at it.

Printing trillions more dollars and growing government to cover new debts isn't so bad if we call it "stimulus." That is far smarter than saying something honest like, "I propose a new $1 trillion debt program."

The old-fashioned spendthrift policies we used to ridicule as congressional pork and "earmarks" are now justified under that ubiquitous, nice word "stimulus." If funding another questionable museum in your district was once congressional pork barreling, it will now be a patriotic act to get the national economy moving again.

Yet much of what is driving this national hysteria in our reaction to the current economic downturn is psychological. After all, no plagues, wars, or earthquakes have killed our workforce, destroyed our infrastructure, or wiped out our computer banks.

Instead, for years now we have overspent and over-borrowed - and must naturally pay up. And like any chastised debtor, panicked Americans logically have temporarily clammed up and are holding on to what money they have left.

In response, the government apparently doesn't only want to free up credit to get us back to our profligate habits of borrowing what we don't have so we can buy what we don't need. It also would like to create new programs to build infrastructure; guarantee new loans; and offer additional credits, bailouts and entitlements.

Or in the words of incoming White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

Traditional conservative custodians of the budget can't say much. They are largely discredited on matters of finance. During the last eight years of Republican prominence in Congress and the White House, the government borrowed as never before.

Liberals in turn have suddenly rewritten their own economic history. They used to claim the great surge in government under Pres. Franklin Delano Roosevelt got us out of the Great Depression with deficit spending and federal jobs programs.

But many historians have argued instead that unemployment and slow growth remained high throughout Roosevelt's first two terms - until the Second World War scared us all into a fit of national mobilization that alone ended the ongoing 13-year depression between 1929 and 1941.

Now here's the irony: Liberals suddenly agree that only the Second World War stopped the Depression, after all! So they now argue that we need a new New Deal far greater than the old New Deal. In other words, they want to re-create the urgency of World War II to get government to grow and spend big-time.

Their argument is that if FDR failed to stop the Depression, it wasn't, as conservatives insist, because he turned to unworkable government solutions, but rather because he didn't try big enough ones.

The government-affiliated, under-regulated, and corrupt Fannie Mae may have collapsed. And it may have helped to cause the sub-prime mortgage meltdown. No matter - the proposed "don't waste a crisis" cure seems to use that model of government-guaranteed corporations to absorb as much of the economy as possible.

Still, no one knows whether the present borrowing and printing of money to give short-term credits, cash grants and jobs to Americans will get the economy moving again - or simply reinforce the bad habits that got us here in the first place.

But consider a few facts: Even in the current mess, recent unemployment figures are around 7 percent - not the 10 percent of the recession of the early 1980s, much less the peak of 25 percent in the Great Depression.

Meanwhile, energy prices have plunged, saving consumers and the country hundreds of billions of dollars. The existing pre-stimulus annual budget was already set to run about a half-trillion-dollar deficit. The present government debt, much of it to Asia and Europe, was nearing $13 trillion even before the latest borrowing plans.

We are going to have to pay these debts back by cutting federal spending and entitlements or raising taxes - or both. Or we can convince panicky debt holders abroad to loan us even more money for years at near-zero interest rates. Or we can try simply printing trillions of new dollars to inflate the economy while hoping that creditors don't mind being paid with funny money.

What got us in this debacle was the lack of self-control on the part of consumers who borrowed to spend more than they could pay back, rapid growth in government debt, and Wall Street speculators who wanted obscene returns they had not earned.

It would be a pity if the government now trumped these bad examples and turned some helpful federal loan guarantees of troubled banks into a permanent state-run economy with crushing debt for generations to come.

by Victor Davis Hanson

©2009 Tribune Media Services

I've never seen anything like this goofy logic.  When an individual goes into bankruptcy and goes to credit counseling and court, I've never heard the counselor or judge tell them that the solution is to go out and spend more and go into more debt.  They usually cut up your credit cards and put you on a bare bones budget.  This is insane what is happening now.  I can see trying to keep the banks alive but the rest is just not good common sense. 

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But many historians have argued instead that unemployment and slow growth remained high throughout Roosevelt's first two terms - until the Second World War scared us all into a fit of national mobilization that alone ended the ongoing 13-year depression between 1929 and 1941"

Before the war, they had a high income tax on the businesses to help pay for the work programs.  Once they changed that by lowering the taxes, recovery was able to begin, we were also supplying our allies with war materials that helped create jobs, eventually the war ended the depression.  They have this tendency to forget the lowering of taxes that finally was the beginning of the end of the depression. 

SherriG is it a used car or a pre-owned car?  A waitress or a food server? A stewardess or a flight attendant?  A secretary or an executive assistant?  Just a play on words to make those who lack even the sense God gave a goose, to feel better about it.  I agree with AlwaysHope, how can you get out of debt by going into deeper debt?

I  saw a post where someone mentioned about the new President Obama ruling the country.  I guess they don't understand that he is not the king and that we don't have royalty.  He doesn't rule the country and his 'rules' can be overturned by Congress.  If anything, Congress has more power.

So President Obama needs to learn to treat the speaker of the house and the leader of the Senate majority as colleagues instead of subjects or they will put him in his place.

Shirley,

 Repubs don't have enough votes at the moment, perhaps in 2 years I am scared of that stimilus package too.  But then there is a reason Democrats want Republicans to buy in, they want them to share the blame when it turns out to be a flop. I like listening to Rush, Hannity , Beck and others who are very vocal in their opposition and hope that Americans will realize how dangerous it could be and start calling their representatives. Nothing works on elected officials like a barrage of phone calls and emails reminding them who  they are working for .