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I would be delighted to see these threads removed

Rosemary44

We're still here.  Happy days are here again. 

Sherri, yes I did up my bet.  I hope your saving up.  This should be a fun superbowl, now that we have the big bucks on it.

I can't even imagine this thread being no more.  We talk about everything and anything here.  I think the mods will have second thoughts if they read this board.  We welcome everyone here as long as they don't attack us, which has happened, and we stay calm and move on to whatever we were talking about after the invasion.  We're happy people.

Keith Olbermann doesn't think conservatives are happy, but we're here to prove the opposite.  So my fingers are crossed that the mods will read our posts, and see for themselves that this thread is vital to our diversions away from BC, and all the good laughs we had.  Plus, we're all being kept up on the news of the day.  It all happens right here, everyday.

Alaska Deb will be sorely missed on these boards.  We all loved her.

Paulette531

Yes, we are still here and I am DELIGHTED! Said it before, saying it again, there are many threads I would like to see removed but I just DON'T PARTICIPATE in them! So simple yet so hard for some to grasp! If everyone had to wear the color orange everyday a lot of people would be totally frustrated!

Good morning Repub ladies! Keith Olbermann shouldn't generalize then he wouldn't make such ignorant statements!

Did anyone read about the eight (8) count em' eight babies born to a woman in California? WOW! 

Rosemary44

That lady is going to need a lot of help.  Think of the feeding line.  8 high chairs all in a row.    Putting shoes on?  I can't even think about it all. 

BTW, I'm waiting for Shokk to come back with another chapter on that French diet. It's never too late to start dieting.

vivre

What does Olberman know about being happy? Has the man ever smiled? Talk about a hate monger.

Daisy, glad you enjoy reading us. We wish you all the best in getting through treatments. There are better days ahead, when you will not think about bc and feel like you are part of the real world again.

This may be a dumb question to you guys. But who is playing in the superbowl? I will be celebrating my birthday and my son's who was born on super bowl sunday. My other son was born during the world series. My husband was not happy with my timing! Coincidently (?) my boys played football and baseball respectively. The only sports I follow is with kids. I just get bored with the professionals. Although I did get to watch Michael Jordan scrimmage with the coaches at a basketball camp my son attended. He was an amazing athelete. I will never forgive him for dumping his wife. But I guess she made out like a bandit. My son got to shake Jordons hand. I tried to take a picture, but it came out blurry. It was a great camp.

What does everyone think about Bama talking to Arab media for his first interview as the prez? I thought he was going to be a uniter?If he really wants to win people over from the other side, maybe he should do an interview with Hannity or Rush instead of making public comments against them. I never heard Bush call out any reporter by name who criticized him.

I guess I missed all the drama yesterday. My heart goes out to Alaska Deb and her family. I came on later so I did not know her, but I remember she had some very funny posts, and she would join us here with her support for Sarah Palin. She was a very special person and someone who made this world a better place. There is nothing more important in life than that. God Bless you Alaska Deb.

Paulette531

Rosemary...I read she was going to BREASTFEED...in caps because I cannot even imagine that. She would have to spend 24/7 feeding.

Paulette531

A big THANK YOU to the mods!

Moderators

Mod's fingers are crossed that this helps cool the climate on the boards 

Rosemary44

Paulette,

Is that even possible to feed 8?  Our bodies are amazing but enough milk for 8? 

Vivre,

I see I can't get you into my betting pool, you don't even know the teams.  Hey, beginners luck?

It's the Arizona Cardinals vs. Pittsburgh Steelers.  Arizona needs a win badly, AHEM..  I've seen it happen before, remember the Jets.  The Steelers worry me because that team looks huge in size.  I think the Arizona quarterback might be in for some trouble. 

Rosemary44

Wonderful, we're staying, thanks Dr. Melissa.  Your the best!  Tami too. 

Anonymous

One of my favorite shows on TLC is 'Jon & Kate Plus 8".  And that is watching them cope with 6 the same age.  I can't even begin to imagine dealing with 8 small babies.  I hope they have a very good support family in place to help.

abinneb

Yes, thank you to the moderators!

Rosemary44

Sherri,

No helping the beginners.  But I'll take Vivre's bet too if she's going to take your advice. 

You don't want to know who Keith Olbermann is.  Consider yourself lucky that you've never ran across his show.  I won't even tell where it is, you need to keep a happy heart.

Olbermann also gives commentary on the football games.  I couldn't believe it when I saw him there.  I have to turn that off also till the game starts.

Paulette531

I know ZIP about football but am going with Arizona because I love the state! LOL! (I probably won't watch the game cause it kinda' bores me and I don't really know what they are doing anyway)!

Anonymous

It was suggested that this could be the replacement for GITMO ... But it's Pelosi's backyard (and her voters) .. she won't want that and quickly said that the former prison, "Alcatraz is a tourist attraction. It’s a prison that is now sort of like a — it’s a national park.”

Now, I know it would take millions to restore it to house prisoners and the guy was joking but he was saying that since liberals want it gone .. put them in their backyard!!  Alcatraz is certainly secure!  If they release them to their countries, they will only attack us again!

pzl

Well, Alcatraz is in my backyard ( about 50 miles from it ), so I would not be happy about it I saw an ainterview with one of the ex-military guys. And he said that the danger of moving the prisoners into USA  is not that it increases a possibility of their escapebut that it increases a possibility of terrorst attacks near it. He beleived that this would be a magnet for terrorists.

Anonymous

I think being imprisoned in Alcatraz would be even worse that being in Guatonamo.  Now you know the ACLU and all the human rights groups won't let that happen.

vivre

 Thanks to the mods for understanding how important it is for some of us to come here and talk to our friends about the events of the day. Some of us just are not interested in talking about fashion or TV shows, but find sisterhood with those who have gone through the same nightmare and now feel like being part of the real world again. I appreciate that they understand how much this thread has meant to us. It is one of our lifelines. Now we all need to promise to be good girls and stay in our own corners. We need to commit to let others disagree and hope that they will respect that we have a RIGHT to different opinions. Let's pray it works.

Hannity is doing an expose each night this week on a different terrorist at Gitmo and on those who have been released and returned to do their dirty work. I agree with you Rock, Alcatraz sounds like a good place for them. Don't even bother to fix it up , let them to be exposed to the elements. If they can't take it and decide to go for a swim, well have a shark filled moat put around it. That would be a great tourist attractions. Bring the tour boats out to watch terrorists get eaten by a shark.

As far as betting. I am with Paulette, because I like Arizona. Never been to Pittsburg. Does anyone go Pittsburgh? So what does it mean that we are betting on the game. Is this legal? I do not want to get us kicked out for starting anything illegal here. We have been in enough hot water lately.

Back to the vacation thread. I am leaning towards the south of France. I am wary of driving in Europe because I know they drive like nuts and gas is so high. Any suggestions by those who have been there done that? What city would be the cheapest to drive to and from. I would like to start in Marseille. Anyone live in a city that flies direct to the south of France?

vivre

 Thanks to the mods for understanding how important it is for some of us to come here and talk to our friends about the events of the day. Some of us just are not interested in talking about fashion or TV shows, but find sisterhood with those who have gone through the same nightmare and now feel like being part of the real world again. I appreciate that they understand how much this thread has meant to us. It is one of our lifelines. Now we all need to promise to be good girls and stay in our own corners. We need to commit to let others disagree and hope that they will respect that we have a RIGHT to different opinions. Let's pray it works.

Hannity is doing an expose each night this week on a different terrorist at Gitmo and on those who have been released and returned to do their dirty work. I agree with you Rock, Alcatraz sounds like a good place for them. Don't even bother to fix it up , let them to be exposed to the elements. If they can't take it and decide to go for a swim, well have a shark filled moat put around it. That would be a great tourist attractions. Bring the tour boats out to watch terrorists get eaten by a shark.

As far as betting. I am with Paulette, because I like Arizona. Never been to Pittsburg. Does anyone go Pittsburgh? So what does it mean that we are betting on the game. Is this legal? I do not want to get us kicked out for starting anything illegal here. We have been in enough hot water lately.

Back to the vacation thread. I am leaning towards the south of France. I am wary of driving in Europe because I know they drive like nuts and gas is so high. Any suggestions by those who have been there done that? What city would be the cheapest to drive to and from. I would like to start in Marseille. Anyone live in a city that flies direct to the south of France?

moodyk13

Thanks for keeping this thread available.  While politics isnt my "favorite" topic, it is ranked right up there (behind God and new boobs of course)

Anonymous

I wonder if Pres Obama gave Ms. Pelosi a phone call and told her to drop it since it was creating such a ruckus and he really wants this bill to pass.  I see many future showdowns between these two and much entertainment to come. 

moodyk13

Speaking of boobs.....want to hear a stupid, crazy story?     No?  Too bad......

So I called the imaging center to get a copy of my mammo films from last year so I could put up on the web a picture of what cancerous microcalicifications look like.  They said no problem, come by and we will give them to you.

So I get this disc, put it in my computer....and nothing.  It wont open.  No matter what program I attempt.  So I call them back to see what I need to do to access it.  You know what those great big dummies said??????  "You can't access the disc."    WTHeck????  Why did you give it to me?  "Patients arent allowed to have access to their tests"    WTHECK?  They are MY tests, MY films of MY mammo that MY insurance paid for and you telling me I am not allowed to have them or a copy of them???????  "That's right, ma'am"

Have any of you heard anything this absurd..........today?

I am going to get those films if it kills me (or I have to break a few laws.....LOL)

Anonymous

Moody, can you see what kind of file extension they images have on them.  For instance, some pics have a .png or .jpg.  If you can determine the extension, maybe we can find a program that will open the files for you.

Anonymous

One of the girls in my Illinois thread posted this:

An announcer on the radio this morning referred to our short-time governor's latest antics as the "cuckoo for cocoa puffs" tour. 

OMG LOL Only in Illinois!

Anonymous

Aloha kâkou!    What a trip!  I have never seen any place more beautiful!  And the people were so nice.  But it's good to be back home.

I see much has been going on.  Did I miss anything?

It's time to get caught up on the news.  I'm going to turn on Fox, have some lunch and get educated.  Then back to reading more on the board to catch up.

Moody, I had a problem with getting my report about the mammo and US from the radiology folks.  I yelled at them..not really.  However, I told them that letter was MINE..my insurance paid for the tests.  They finally gave in but said they didn't like to give the letters to the patients cuz they thought it would be too upsetting and we'd hurt ourself..like having a wreck.  I told the dummy I already knew the report was bad and I wasn't gonna faint or whatever.  She talked to her supervisor and I got the letter.

That's the dumbest thing I heard.  You should probably ask if they're hiding something from you..LOL

Shirley

shokk

Shirley did you find that birth certificate?..............Shokk

Anonymous

Oh, I heard about Deb.  It just floored me.  I thought she was doing a tad bit better.  I am so sorry to hear of her passing.  I feel so badly that she didn't get to see her girls grown.  I believe that was a big thing to her..to make sure those girls were fine.  And, of course her dh and other family members must be mourning their loss.  We say we want to see our loved ones out of pain, but what a tremendous loss.  Deb was a fine young woman.  My thoughts and prayers are with her family.

Shirley

Anonymous

Shokk, nope.  They wouldn't release it to me.  Some kind of law they have over there.

Shirley

But I did have one of those funny drinks with the umbrella in it.  I'm not an alcohol drinker.  But one little one didn't make me fall on my face.

vivre

Laura-You are so right. Only in Ilinois. At least this is one time I am glad the GOP is losing:

 IL Dem Govs who wore stripes=2,

IL Gop Govs wearing stripes= 1,

IL Dem Govs who will soon be wearing stripes=1

Dems win 3-1!!

I thought the Limbaugh plan makes a lot of sense. I know people love to hate him but at least he always has a solution.For instance to we need to give ACORN four million so that can further their cause of corrupting the voitng process. We know that his is BO's baby since he cut his teeth as an ACORN advocate,  but how does this jumpstart the economy. There is too much politcal pork in this "bailout".

And he did not say he hopes Obama will be a failure! He said that he hopes that if Obama pushes a socialist agenda and allows these bailouts to go through unapposed, he hopes he fails! It is about disagreeing on policies, not about hoping BO fails so he will look bad. The liberal media has totally twisted the truth here,as usual.

The Limbaugh plan:

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RUSH: I have a serious proposal to make: the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan 2009.  There is a serious debate in this country as to how best to end the recession.  Recessions will end on their own if they're left alone.  The average recession will last five months to 11 months.  The average recovery from each recession will last six years.  What can make the recession worse is the wrong kind of government intervention.  The wrong kind of government intervention is precisely what President Obama has proposed.  I don't believe that his stimulus plan is a stimulus plan at all.  I don't think it's designed to stimulate anything but the Democrat Party.  It's designed to repair the power losses from the nineties forward of the Democrat Party and to entrench this party for, quote, unquote, eternal power like Franklin Delano Roosevelt did with his New Deal.   Now, we have Keynesian economists who believe government spending on shovel-ready projects of all kinds, "infrastructure" -- schools, roads, bridges -- that's the best way, they think, to stimulate our staggering economy.  There are just as many supply-side economists who make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound and recover.  The Heritage Foundation can provide those figures from the administrations of JFK, who cut taxes; from Ronald Reagan who cut taxes; and George Bush 43, who also cut taxes.  The blueprint is there.  We can consult it. We know what happens when tax rates are cut in a recession.  We know that it brings an economy back.  There is recent polling that proves the American people are in favor of both of these approaches.   Keynesian, stimulus spending by the government on infrastructure, roads and bridges and the like; and supply-side proposals -- and it's important to remember this, because it is the people's money in either case that's going to be spent here.  It's our money.  It is not Washington's.  Now, the Rasmussen people have a new poll out, and notwithstanding the media blitz in support of the Obama stimulus plan, most Americans, Rasmussen finds, are skeptical.  Rasmussen finds that 59% fear that Congress and the president will increase government spending too much in the next year or two.  Only 17% worry that they will cut taxes too much.  The American people, in polling, are not certain that the Obama stimulus plan is the way to go, despite what you're hearing from the Drive-By Media.   So it seems to me that there may be an opportunity here and now for genuine compromise and to establish at the same time as this genuine compromise, evidence for how to deal with future recession so that this no longer becomes a matter of partisan debate each time it happens, because recessions are going to happen.  My proposal is designed to illustrate once and for all how to deal with them.  Congress is currently haggling over how to spend $1 trillion, $1 trillion generated by American taxpayers in the private sector.  Congress wants to spend -- think of this now -- $1 trillion that they don't have until you and I go to work and pay taxes.  They want to spend this on a stimulus plan. They want to take it out of our pockets and redistribute this money in their way to their constituents and to their make-work projects like schools, roads, bridges, blah, blah, blah.

This does not have to be a divisive issue. It does not have to be in any way, shape, manner, or form a divisive issue.  So I have a proposal.  As has been noted, elections have consequences. President Obama in the meeting on Friday with House and Senate Republican leaders, Eric Cantor from Virginia in the House proposed a moderate tax cut plan. Obama said, Well, you know, "I won." I'm going to trump you on that.  We're not going to do that. Well, where's the bipartisanship, President Obama?  There is no bipartisanship in President Obama's plan.  President Obama's definition of bipartisanship is when Republicans cave and agree with his plan so he can then claim it's bipartisan.  But he's not compromising on anything here.   Mine is a genuine compromise.  So let's look at how the vote came out, shall we?  Fifty-three percent of voters in this country -- we'll say, for the sake of this proposal, 53% of Americans -- voted for Obama.  Forty-six percent voted for Senator McCain, and 1% voted for wackos.  Let's give the remaining 1% to President Obama, so let's say that 54% voted for President Obama and 46% voted for Senator McCain.  As a way to bring the country together and at the same time determine the most effective way to deal with recessions, under the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan of 2009, $540 billion of the one trillion will be spent on infrastructure as defined by President Obama and the Democrats.  The remaining $460 billion, or 46% that voted for Senator McCain, will be directed towards tax cuts, as determined by me.   These tax cuts will consist primarily of capital gains tax cuts and corporate tax rate cuts.  So Obama gets $540 billion to spend his way.  The other people of this country who did not vote for his way get $460 billion spent the way they would like it spent.  This is bipartisanship! This is how bipartisanship really works.  Okay, Obama wins by a 54-46 majority, so he gets 54% of the trillion bucks.  Spend it his way.  We get 46% of the trillion bucks to spend our way, and then we compare. Then we see which stimulus actually works and works the fastest, and I will guarantee you that if this plan is adopted, just the announcement that $460 billion will go toward paying for tax cuts, capital gains, and corporate tax rates -- we could throw in some personal income tax rate reduction in order to make sure that the voters don't think it's all about helping the big guys.  But we need jobs, do we not?   Who hires people?  Businesses!  Businesses need tax cuts.  The US corporate tax rate is obscene.  It is the highest of all industrialized nations.  It's 35%.  Cut it.  Cut it in half.  Make the capital gains rate go away for three months, and then get out of the way to see what happens on Wall Street.  And once Wall Street starts ticking up 500 points a day, you watch what happens to the rest of the private sector.  It will follow right along.  This would ensure a bipartisan compromise bill, as Democrats have said that they're always about. It would satisfy the American people's wishes, as polls currently note; and it would also serve as a test, going forward, as to which approach best stimulates the growth of jobs -- and it can be measured side by side.  It could be determined where the new jobs are coming from.   And if President Obama would merely say -- if he would merely say -- that he will take this proposal under serious consideration, we would then see the reaction from the financial markets, which tend to be a barometer of the economy going forward.  That is, if President Obama said that he thought this compromise proposal was worth his time to look at, the markets could react to that, just the way they did when President Clinton announced that he had reached agreement in principle with Republicans to balance the budget in the nineties.  The market reacted positively to that news.  Not to a formal bill signing, but to the news.  If we have learned anything in recent months, the financial markets more than ever look to Washington for direction.

That's bad.  The markets should be looking at the market.  But they're not.  The markets are looking to Washington.  That's where we are.  That's what "is" is.  So let's float a trial balloon on this compromise.  This satisfies every claim and demand of bipartisanship.  This satisfies the people who lost the election.  Those people are also people for which the president is the president.  He's not just the president of the people who elected him.  His job, he says, is to get the economy going.  This would do it.  This would not disenfranchise the people who did not vote for him.  And as I say, not only would it work but it would provide a side-by-side test where we could see which part of this stimulus plan does better, so that the next recession we will know what to do.   The problems Americans face are great, but they are not insurmountable.  They never have been insurmountable.  There is no reason to get up every day and tell the American people that their future is bleak.  There is no reason, as the administration is doing, to depress their hopes.  There is no reason to suppress the notion that recovery can happen quickly, because it can, if we work together.  In this new era of responsibility, let's use elements of both the Keynesians and the supply-siders to responsibly determine which theory best stimulates our economy -- and if elements of both work, so much the better.  We will know.  The economy doesn't have to be liberal versus conservative, or Democrat versus Republican.   And it certainly shouldn't be focused on whether or not one party gets reelected.  The reason it has is because there is such a division in how the economy is viewed by the two parties.  I got a question from a friend just a moment ago when I was talking about the Obamas redecorating the White House, using the same decorator that redecorated the executive suite at Merrill Lynch.  Question: "How come taxpayers get so mad at businesses who misspend their money but can't make that connection when Congress misspends their money?"  It's a great question.  How is it that people that misspend a trillion dollars -- who know how to waste money and lose money faster than anybody -- are thought of as saviors; whereas the people in the private sector, whose job is to generate income for people, are so despised?   And here's the answer.  The people, unfortunately in this country today, see themselves benefiting when government overspends.  They see the rich getting richer when private sector executives overspend.  So the Democrats have foisted, successfully, class envy.  The economy need not be right versus left, Republican versus Democrat, but it is because one group wants the economy to be hands off -- government hands off, let the people who make this economy work, let it work.  The other belief is that that leads too much inequity, unfairness. Government must choose winners and losers so that nobody's feelings are hurt blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  Well, that's old hat. The American people are made up of Republicans, Democrats, independents, moderates, whatever they want to call themselves, but our economy doesn't know the difference.  Our economy should not be focused on whether or not one party gets reelected.  This is about jobs now. It's about families. It's about solving a real and significant problem.  So let us come together as one.  The economic crisis is an opportunity to unify all of the people in this country if we just set aside the politics.  The leader of the Democrats and the leader of the Republicans (me, according to Obama) can get this done.  This will have the overwhelming support of the American people, because it will bring both sides together.  The Obama-Limbaugh... Let him call it his. The Obama Stimulus Plan of 2009.  Let's stop the acrimony.  Let's start solving our problems, together.  Why wait one more day?

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Harley44

Shirley,

Hey, good to see you again!!  I thought you told me that you were banned until next week!! 

Well, I am so happy that you are back!!!

HUGS
Harley