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  • LuAnnH
    LuAnnH Member Posts: 8,847
    edited November 2008

    Little G great news on the MRI!

    I would suggest everyone just ignore this user that wants to break the rules of our system, the more attention he gets the more he will post.

    Amy, if you were referring to Shirley as a troll for her post about balest or whatever his name is, that is really unnecessary.  I have no issue with you or her and if you both have  a problem that is fine but she didn't come into this thread to cause a problem but notify about a person that is a real troll.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Congratulations LITTLE G!!!  I knew it, I knew it!!!!  So glad your dancing with NED...

    I'm afraid to took at that turkey video...can I take your word for it?!!!

    Once DH and I stayed at a country inn for Thanksgiving.  After dinner we went for a cross-country ski and what did we run into but a huge flock of wild turkeys....about 30 or so.  They made a very pretty picture...their large black bodies under the leafless trees against the white snow.  We had to stop and let them cross the road, and we felt just a little bit guilty about the fact that we had turkey in our tummies..

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Donna, his id's are terminated solely because he violates rules, not what he says.

    Blaest, we used to have one thread for debate.  Thats why 2 threads were created so we weren't debating each other.  Yes, I publicly reported your multiple id's NOT what you say.  Have at it. Create your debate thread, I am sure you will get some action.

    Out of respect for the Dems here, I come here to pipe in some agreement on certain issues like BUSH GET OUT AND GET OUT NOW ...  or to ask a valid question, not a question that would try to trip them up or try to make them out to be stupid.  These ladies are smart with set views as are the republicans. 

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    Dem ladies:  my dad sent me a copy of the German newspaper.  Wait to you see it.  Really funny but totally depicts the way that Europe sees Bush and hopes in Obama.  It's hilarious and sad because it's true!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    PS  Blaster, baster, master?, baiter, ...  reporting is not the same as whining.  Who really is the drama-mama here???

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Thank you LadySuz.  Actually if you go to my initial posts, they had to do with helping on insurance matters because I am somewhat of an expert in that area and i thought I could help others having problems with their insurance companies.  That was doing the little bit I thought I could to help.  The problem with my posts came when I started pretty stringent opposition to the Tijuana and Hoxsey cure crowds and some of the flak I got for it was unbelievable.  I have nothing against alternative medicines per-se.  I assume earting the right foods may help prevent cancer or reduce the intensity of the disease, but I have been around the block long enough to know scammers when I see them, and when it comes to duping the gullible and trying to get their money, there are tons of people out there who have the ethics of snake-oil salesmen, which is what many of them are, but some people don't want to hear anything about that. I am being "disruptive" by voicing anti-alternative cancer cure according to some of the people on those threads.  That makes me a TROLL.  I am a big believer in the fact that people who come to these boards often will believe what they read and I want to be a voice of caution where I can be. 

    And yea, in today's world I sometimes shake my head at the stuff coming out of the mouths of people like Sarah Palin.  I despised her the minute she attacked Obama during her convention speech for implying his service as a community organizer was worthless . . and that somehow being the mayor of a nothing town made her his superior.  Later to hear her talk about her foreign policy experience because of the proximity between Russia and Alaska was simply too much.  The Republicans were simply too dense to realize that she was laughing at them, that she thought they were so incredibly dumb (which of course might be true), that they would buy anything  she had to say. And then to have her and the Republicans be so devisive.  All the problems we are having and they are trying to distinguish between "real americans" and everybody else.  Honestly going on the Respectfully Republican thread is an insult to any thinking, intelligent person.  The stuff these people come up with and believe is scary. 

    And I think it very interesting that the people who attacked me were the people from the Republican Thread, people like IBC Spouse.  I am an independent but I have always believed that the Democratic Party has far nicer and better people than the Republicans, who have an elitest attitutude, think they know more than the rest of the world and they have the right to inflict their moral judgments on the rest of us.  So am I surprised at the vicious attacks I have endured from some of the Republicans?  Not really, its par for the course for any who don't simply swallow their agenda. 

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2008

    Anyone who comes onto this thread repeatedly just to cause trouble is a troll and I don't care to read those threads. The term isn't about different opinions, it's about blatant disregard for others and simply wanting to gain attention through causing trouble. Anyone who wants to participate in meaningful, proliberal discussion is welcome.

    g- great news! I do think that there are self righteous folks on the board who act like the gestapo and target folks with whom they disagree. It's happened before and it'll happen again.

    Lady suz- I think it's very possible that there is a clique of people who are reporting blaest's posts out of vindictiveness. I've seen it done on the boards before. I also think blaest could take steps to keep a lower profile and ignore the people who have been unwelcoming. I don't think public criticism of the moderators is the way to go in stopping repeated terminations.

    Laura- I just can't believe how bizarre that woman is. I keep comparing her to a poorly written sitcom character. I think SNL can get rid of their writers and just follow her around with a video camera and tape recorder. It's just un-freaking-believable. Thank goodness Begich won that senate seat. Speaking of the senate,  did you hear the outgoing senator with the wide stance Larry Craig's creepy tribute to outgoing felon senator Ted Stevens? Creepy!

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/11/_history_of_alaska_fisheries.html?hpid=moreheadlines

    from the washington post:

    Retiring Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho), famous, of course, for his airport men's room arrest, told the story of how he came to call Stevens "Uncle Ted." Craig said he was in a cab, on his way to the Ted Stevens International Airport in Anchorage, when he pulled up to the curb and said out loud, "Oh my, Ted's got an airport. That's neat."

    The cab driver, according to Craig, said "Do you know Uncle Ted?" Craig recalled the driver saying, "I know of no other person who has done more for my state than Uncle Ted."

    "Ted Stevens now knows why I call him Uncle Ted more often than not. I view that as a much more affectionate term than Senator Stevens," Craig said, adding as he leaned over to Stevens, "I'm gonna miss you, Uncle Ted."

    I'm no PR professional, but if I was, I'd advise Craig against referring to airports in public speeches because the mind drifts from the topic at  hand to his wide stance arrest.

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2008

    blaest- I agree that as a whole, democrats are kinder and more generous than their republican counterparts. If we look at the types of ads that have run in the past elections, attacking character vs. policy that's quite apparent. We can look at democratic agendas of strengthening lower and middle class families, providing health care for the un and underinsured vs. republican's cries of socialism. Democrats have supported affirmative action to help bring a more level playing field to minorities and he underrepresentative and women have benefitted from this as much as blacks. Republicans want these same minorities to get over it and move on, as if the day women got the right to vote and  the day civil rights became law everything became equal. Republicans have fought to keep the old white christian boys network going. Obviously not every dem or repub feels this way, but as a whole I believe democrats and kinder and more sensitive to the needs of all than republicans.

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited November 2008

    First of all to the Obama supporters......congrats........I know you guys are happy..........I am not here to cause any controversy however the rules here at bc.org where updated when we were getting those (probably high school spammers)that were causing havoc.........every time anyone new signs into bc.org with a new i.d. they are only allowed 5 posts per 24 hour period......plain and simple.......this was decided by the mods to keep the spammers out and for the most part it has worked..........I have never reported a post to the mods ever.........if I found someone that I don't agree with or find annoying I just don't read their posts..........I have tried to respect this thread as well as our thread..........we do seem to have a lot more Democrats posting on the Republican thread then visa versa but with that said blame is accusing us of nothing we have any control over.......plus the fact that he has stated that he doesn't care for the mods and will do whatever he wants then every time he has five post per new i.d. he will have to make a new one........as far as the new spammer rule is once you have a certain amount of posts made and have been restricted for a certain amount of time and have not caused trouble and appears to be a real person with real issues concerning bc then it is up to the mods to remove the restriction so that you can post as often as you like........that is my understanding............but "blame" because of your attitude concerning the mods and the rules that "everyone" must follow I wouldn't think that they will never remove your restrictions.........sorry about butting in here.......everyone have a great weekend.......Shokk

  • Little-G
    Little-G Member Posts: 647
    edited November 2008

    LuAnn, Linora & Amy...thanks so much for the congrats on NED!  A weight is off me for sure!  Linora..yeah, take my word on the turkey video.  It's awful!!  I'm glad Laura posted it, but its not for the squeamish!  And this is "fun" to this woman.  Wow.  But then again, aren't we on this side a bunch of "bleeding heart liberals?"  :-)  OK..I'm not trying to stir the pot any further.  But..its no secret I can't stand Palin.  Each thing that pops up about her makes my feelings even stronger.  Maybe she'd like to see the inside of that turkey stuffer and see how "fun" it really is! 

    g

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2008
    hi shokk- always glad to have your level minded (albeit republican Wink) input.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    little gggggggggggggggg! wooooooooooooohoooooooooo!

    fantastic, you and ned, dancing away! love it, love it LOVE IT! four years out this week, i am. LOVE THAT!

    i just can't do a turkey after watching that youtube, just gross. what was she thinking?

    i am with you, g, 'don't like the post or the thread, move on.' the drama is crazy. i hope this thread does not become a place where the Republican thread is under attack or that some of our sisters feel the need to save us from their troll visions. enough all ready.

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    60 days until Mission Accomplished... Can't come soon enough for me and the stock market...:)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Little g .. congrats on NED!

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    What turkey thing on youtube? 

  • LAphoenix
    LAphoenix Member Posts: 452
    edited November 2008

    little-g: Ya-hoo!  What a great way to end your week!  I can feel your relief from here.  Glad it didn't drag out for too long.

    Rocktobermom, the link to the YouTube video is in one of Amy's posts at the top of this page.  I couldn't watch it.  I can't watch her, let alone distressed, doomed turkeys. 

    I was just channel hopping between CNN and MSNBC on my lunch break and they had dueling scoops.  CNN is reporting (via the NY Times) that Hillary has definitely accepted the SoS spot.  MSNBC is reporting that Guenthier (sp?) of the Federal Reserve is in as Treasury Secy, and Richardson has been offered Commerce.  Things are coming together.  Now if we could just turn the Bush signing pen off, I'd be really happy.

            

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    amy - i saw larry craig on msnbc last night, is he creepy enough?... and then when he mentioned the airport i was just cracking up.

    amazing to see the senate give a convicted felon a standing o isn't it?

  • sccruiser
    sccruiser Member Posts: 1,119
    edited November 2008

    Great news, g--I'm doing the happy dance right now for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now you can really enjoy turkey day--only if one can remove that picture of Palin talking about levity and fun as the turkey is being beheaded in that contraption (I assume)--that is one digusting female for sure--yea, you betcha!

    Hillary Clinton will be Secretary of State!!! Just announced on Faux News. Hope some of the Hillary supporters are happy about that--she will the best woman for this job! She can handle foreign relations with no problems at all. This cabinet is turning into a fine, very fine team. Perhaps Obama will even do better than Lincoln did with his rivals!

    You are right, Laura, 60 days can't come soon enough. Too bad he won't be charged with Treason (as well as Cheney)--I'd like them to get an 8 year sentence at least--it's what we have been living under--8 years of the worst President ever in the US!! Even a mediocre president in the future would be better than he was--well, I make an exception with Palin--she would even make Bushy look good--hopefully not--got to keep her up there in Alaska, chillin'! 

  • Little-G
    Little-G Member Posts: 647
    edited November 2008

    Laura, Rocktobermom and LAphonenix!!  Thanks!!! Yes...there is a huge sense of relief at the end of this extremely long week!!!  And Laura...congrats to you on your 4 years!!  Many, many more!!!  Rocktobermom..Amy has a link to the turkey video on one of her posts and Laura has one on her post too.  Previous page I think.  It's unreal.  She acts as if she's at a pumpkin patch or something when these turkeys are being put to an awful death right behind her.  I just detest this woman more and more each time I see or hear about her. 

    I can not wait until our Barack is in office!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Good things are coming!!!!!! 

    g

  • Little-G
    Little-G Member Posts: 647
    edited November 2008
    Grace..thanks for the happy dance with me!!!!!!!Smile
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    There's the German newspaper .... Headline reads;  The End of the Madness ...

    the smaller part reads: From today there is hope again in America - and the world breathes on

  • Little-G
    Little-G Member Posts: 647
    edited November 2008

    Rocktobermom........that is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!   :-)

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited November 2008

    Little-G, congratulations to you on your awesome ned news!

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited November 2008

    The turkey interview was just plain mean.  I can't think of anyone who would want an interview all over television with turkeys in the background.  Besides that, they stink.

  • djd
    djd Member Posts: 866
    edited November 2008

    Little G - Sorry I missed your good news before.  Congrats on NED!!

    Regarding the Turkey interview, all I can say is YIKES! 

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2008

    laura= what is up with these republicans who have no sense of the impact of their words and the timing of those words. Talking about airports when you were arrested in one and it caused national jokes? Talking about civility at a turkey farm vs. brutality of politics with turkeys being slaughtered in the background? Come on, the republicans have better people to offer than that, don't they?

    g- my hate for Palin grows with each passing faux pas. I'm not a vegetarian, I love meat, but I don't like watching my dinner die or thinking about that. Maybe that makes me a bit of a hypocrite, but at least I'm sensitive to animals. Remember that picture of palin with the dead, bloody bear and Piper looking over it?

  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited November 2008

     I know it is tough for city dwellers to consider hunting at all.  I know I couldn't hunt, but in the north it is still a way of life.

    Traditionally the Inuit supported themselves by hunting fish, sea mammals and land animals for food, heat, light, clothing, tools and shelter. They hunted mainly seal and caribou, but also whales, walrus, polar bear, musk ox, fox and wolf. The animals were used for food and their skin was used for clothing, blankets, tents and boats. Their oil was used for cooking and lamps. Bones, ivory and wood were used to make tools. Little was wasted, there was no pollution and, apart from natural trends, animals and people lived in harmony with a land that most people from the south would find hostile in the extreme.

    The good hunters were respected, as was a good work ethic - lazy people or those that did not contribute to the community, were not. They were just another mouth to feed in a place where food could be very hard to come by.

    Today the Inuit have adapted to the changes brought by the "west" and it is not uncommon to see an Inuit fishing through a hole in the ice whilst talking on a mobile phone - or drinking a can of coke as he drives his dog sledge. However, the Inuit hunting tradition remains and, particularly as you go further north, it is practised with pride. In many areas the local people still hunt, fish and trap and rely on their environment for food. The President of the Inuit Circumpolar Council, Greenland, Aqqaluk Lynge, has said: "Eating what we hunt is at the core of what it means to be Inuit. When we can no longer hunt on the sea-ice, and eat what we hunt, we will no longer exist as a people."

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    My grandmother used to raise chickens and ring their necks, plucked them and cooked them.  I could never do that, but it's the way one is raised.

    Shirley

  • djd
    djd Member Posts: 866
    edited November 2008

    Shirely -

    I grew up next door to a family that raised and butchered rabbits.  I vividly remember walking through the gate to their back yard one day to see a row of headless rabbits hanging upside down from a clothesline!

    I also recall my grandparents would buy a hog each year, fatten it up and then have it butchered.  My grandpa liked to tease (torture) us by pretending to give each hog a name so that he could announce that the bacon, sausage or whatever being served was from "Claude" or whomever!

    I occasionally eat meat, but as an animal lover, I have tried not to "go there" in my mind.  I accept that responsible hunting is beneficial.  I just can't bear to think of what it must be like to send animals to slaughter or shoot a deer!

    Call it willful blindness, I guess.   But seriously, after watching that Palin interview, and knowing deep down that those turkeys probably have a better life than the massive amounts we kill in the lower 48, I am starting to feel like I just can't justify contributing to animal killing industries and will go totally vegetarian. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Donna, I didn't look at the video.  I can't stand watching animals killed for any reason.  It's bad enough when we have to make "that decision" with our furbabies.  I literally RUN out of the vet's office when my baby goes to sleep.

    When I see hogs, cattle, chickens going off to slaughter it makes me so sad.  Yet, I eat them.  Now that's a form of hypocrisy!  LOL  I could NEVER raise animals to kill and eat.  NEVER!  I could NEVER shoot an animal.  NEVER!  And I've got a ham in the fridge and a turkey in the freezer.  Frown

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    My grands raised cattle for a living ... and we always bought a hog and a lamb to slaughter. My dad and his sister would each get a side of beef .. (1/2 of a cow) each year ...  I would be sad if it were a pet but we never got attached, except for ones that got sick and had to be nursed back to health but then when the calves were better they went back to the herd and you didn't know them, not when you're raising 1500 of them!

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    My dad sent me that article of GW ... that was the one I promised to find to put up for you ladies.  But Felicia, I promise I am not converting!!  LOL ...  Of course, I want Obama to do well and pick good leaders, if he does well, we will all do well.

  • sccruiser
    sccruiser Member Posts: 1,119
    edited November 2008

    There's a big difference between hunting traditions being used by First Nation people who use all of the animal in order to survive; and a woman shooting wolves from a helicopter, doncha think? You betcha!

    Palin is just disgusting. The oxymoron of that turkey interview really shows that she just doesn't git it!

    When we were in Alaska, there was much animosity between the First Nation people and the whites (many descendants of gold rushers in the 1800s); the whites who have been there for several hundred years are unhappy because they are considered natives with a small "n;" and the different tribes in Alaska are considered natives with a capital "N:"although I was told the respectful title used by many Alaskans I met is First Nation. They actually have license to kill anytime during the year; while others must hunt only when season is open for a particular animal (I was told this at a Native History museum outside Fairbanks). I learned a lot on that trip about the gold rush, and the First Nation peoples' history. I think it takes really, really strong people to live in their climate and environment. I would not want to be stranded out in the middle of nowhere and those who survive their are very tough! Just trying to get access to piped in fresh water can be almost impossible. We visited Homer, where many of the home owners on the mountainside take showers at the local gym; go to the laundromat to do their laundry; and fill up big drums with water from several faucets in town (just for doing that) and haul it home. But watching the bald eagles soar past you as the sun sets in the summer (well it doesn't really set) is worth it to them (and we enjoyed the view also). Guess I got a little off subject.

    Wonder if Palin survives so well because Hubby is part Inuit?

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2008

    There she goes again--- Palin apparently hasn't learned the lesson that the coverup is always worse than the misstep. Now she's saying she had no idea that the slaughter was going on behind her, yet the video clearly shows her looking back and watching.  Grace I have no idea how she survives. She probably does ok in a state with less population than most major cities if the expectations are very low on how an intelligent woman handles herself professionally. I wonder how they'll feel with oil selling so much cheaper when the profits go down and they won't be getting those rebate checks. Alaska seems like a horrible place to live, even without Palin. I bet they have a lot of seasonal affective distorder thbere.

    Is anyone else worried about the Clinton drama and how that will effect the Obama presidency as secretary of state. Hillary likes to be in control. I wonder how she'll feel working under Obama, especially if he overrides her decision on something she feels strongly about. Will she go home and complain about her boss, as we all do and will Bill use that in speeches?

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