Positive Obama thread
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The "other side" is dredging up all the old tired stories and half-truths that were out there 20 months ago. I just saw a poll in one of our local papers here in NY in which 73% of people said they are TURNED OFF by negative campaigning.
Obama (to his credit) has pretty much stayed on message, on target and repeatedly has stated his position over and over and over again. McSame and Palin have got nothing.....same old negative comments...I don' think I've heard a stump speech from either one that didn't have some dig at Obama or Biden....oh, but wait, they do have Joe the (non) plumber who was signing autographs for the moronic crowd yesterday...... Tuesday can't come fast enough .
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Amy: That's hilarious.... I find it sad that Palin is already distancing herself from McSame....she has already started to think about 2012....that's frightening.
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blue- it's really scary how gullible Pallin is. The pundits are saying this is worse for her than the Katie Couric interviews. I yell at cars with Obama bumper stickers and give them big thumbs up.
suz=- there have been a number of "hangings" of Obama as well, but his campaign hasn't tried to capitalize on them. I prefer to see Palin hang herself metaphorically everytime she opens her mouth,
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Just wanted to clarify my feelings about Wright. I'm not a fan, mainly beause of what he did to Obama at his press conference. His "god damn America" comment was offensive but no one asked why he was saying it, or put it into any kind of social or historical context. He was known for being provocative, but also known for inspiring people through religion. It's not black and white . . . so to speak.
I wonder why Cheney bothered to endorse McCain at this late stage. He can't possibly think it would help him.
Shirley Nagel sounds like one sick, angry woman. Did the McCain supporters take candy from her? She should have been shunned by the neighbors for her outlandish behavior.
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Sorry if this has already been posted but if not, ENJOY!!!! P.S. Click on stuff more than once--some things change each time you click on them!!!
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I almost feel sorry for Palin. She didn't even catch on when he said that he could see Belgium from his house. Well, at least she can say she's joined ranks with Mick Jagger and Britney Spears.
I watched the Shirley Nagel video. I thought it was nice that the Obama supporters got together and made sure the kids got plenty of treats. In the comments below, someone noted that Nagel used to be his teacher and was horrible to kids even then. Sounds like she's just generally a nutter.
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Funny site, Anne. And probably not too much of an exaggeration.
And as long as we're talking funny nutballs . . . did you see the O'Reilly interview with Victoria Jackson, of SNL fame? She makes O'Reilly seem positively reasonable with her comment that Obama's a communist like Castro and that guy from China:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/01/victoria-jackson-obama-a_n_139962.html
And what's with Jeanine Turner? I know she's stumping for Palin, but she seems to be popping up everywhere lately. Maybe she's angling for Hasselbeck's job.
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my thanks to Madalyn--for the responses to my ignorant questions...hugggssss--Tues' voting will be a piece of cake!!! And, a day of rejoicing!
And, am delighted to read comments about any future cabinet positions. Yes, that will probably the next hot thread on "Moving Beyond"...I just deleted a long rant I had on that subject, so later next week, will be watching for that topic--or will start one!!
We went to dinner last night with some long-time friends, who we for whatever reason, assumed they supported the Rep party. So, our political comments were pretty generic until we became aware that they were on the same side........OMG---did we have a great time!!!!
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Was Victoria Jackson serious???? I don't know much about her..... I thought the clip was a spoof, no?
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Junie: Your comments precisely describe us Dems. We are SOOOO careful to be respectful of the other side and not "step on anyone's toes" whereas the other side doesn't really seem to care less. Sounds like you had a great time at your dinner---good for you!!! I sure hope you are right about Tuesday being a day of rejoicing. I just wish I could trust that each person's vote would be counted. I don't trust the system and I am waiting with bated breath for the outcome of Tuesday's "election." I believe in democracy and the power of "we, the people" so I guess I just have to be patient and trust. It's just SO hard when the other side is sending out "robo" calls advising people to vote on Wednesday, Nov. 5 and to "Vote by Phone" when of course, that is just a bunch of bunk!!!!! GOD HELP US if somehow, these horrible, deceptive, completely illegal tactics somehow work. I pray that people will be smart enough to figure out this ploys are just that......ploys!!!
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A big thank you to all the OBAMA SISTERS here for their personal insights and common belief that we all deserve better!
just a couple more days...we ARE going to do this! we CAN trust in the power of the people to make the CHANGE this country needs.
Tuesday WILL be a day of rejoicing.
I am so thankful to have all of you wonderful sisters here to go through yet ONE MORE big journey with.
Life is good and it will get way better with
President Barack Obama!
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A big thank you to all the OBAMA SISTERS here for their personal insights and common belief that we all deserve better!
just a couple more days...
we ARE going to do this! we CAN trust in the power of the people to make the CHANGE this country needs.
Tuesday WILL be a day of rejoicing.
I am so thankful to have all of you wonderful sisters here to go through yet ONE MORE big journey with.
Life is good and it will get way better with
President Barack Obama!
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A big thank you to all the OBAMA SISTERS here for their personal insights and common belief that we all deserve better!
just a couple more days...
we ARE going to do this! we CAN trust in the power of the people to make the CHANGE this country needs.
Tuesday WILL be a day of rejoicing.
I am so thankful to have all of you wonderful sisters here to go through yet ONE MORE big journey with.
Life is good and it will get way better with
President Barack Obama!
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Amy - Oh my my...
Sarah Palin Got Pranked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc&eurl=http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
you couldn't make that stuff up if you tried, almost better than couric and snl together....:)
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Laura, agreed. Life is good and will get better with President Barack Obama!
Junie, glad your dinner party took such a happy turn. I'm looking forward to speculating about who's in, who's out in the new administration.
Anne, I know what you mean about the many faces of GOP vote fraud, but this time I think the sheer volume of voters, lawyers and poll watchers is going to offset any shenanigans. If it were to come down to one state, like FL or OH, it could be a problem, but I don't see how they could change the final outcome if he's ahead in a lot of states. Hopefully, though, everyone will be alert and double-check their ballots when they can.
Blue, unfortunately, Victoria Jackson's appearance on Fox was not a spoof. She's as ditzy as the character she played on SNL. This is from her website:
You see, what bothers me most, besides being a Communist, and a racist (Obama writes in his book, From Dreams of My Father, "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and and animosity against my (white) mother's race.") (Obama's "religion" of the last 20 years is Black Liberation Theology. What is that? "It is simply Marxism dressed up in Christian rhetoric. But unlike traditional Marxism, Black Liberation Theology emphasizes race rather than class. It's leading theorist is James Cone who says Jesus was black, African-Americans are the chosen people, and whites are the devil. Cone says, "What we need is the destruction of whiteness, which is the source of human misery in the world." The McAlvany Intelligence Advisor), is that he is a LIAR. He pretends to be a Christian and he incriminates himself everytime he speaks about Christianity. To lie about being a believer in Christ is very dangerous. Lightning could strike him at any minute! But seriously, he doesn't have a clue what the Bible says and yet he pretends to be a church- going Christian to win votes. That is sooooo evil.
Don't you love the "but seriously" and "sooooo evil" parts? Not just a little evil . . . sooooo evil!
Only two more days, plus an extra hour!
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LAP- you're so very generous, feeling sorry that Palin is so thick she didn't catch on about Belgium. I think she deserves every bit of the humiliation considering the things she's said about Barack. Victoria Jackson is a nut job along the lines of Jerry Falwell, Ted Haggart etc. and his type. Lightning? WTF? She personifies evil just like Falwell and Haggart.
I saw a Rev. Wright ad today. Big surprise being a swing state.
2 days- the extra hr is over. I can't wait.
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Did anyone see SNL with McCain last night? (I watched it on SNLs website this a.m.) It was funny in spots, and then I realized it was just...sad. Here's the repub's great next hope out there, two days before the election, spoofing himself and his campaign.
I think he knows it's over.
Anne
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AnneW: I didn't see it last night, but I DID see a clip this am. It was the spoof of the QVC spot. Actually I found it pretty funny. John McCain was likable actually. I think I'm so used to the negative campaign speeches that I forgot that I actually used to like him.
Regarding the Victoria Jackson "interview" with Bill O....that was frightening. Even though she appears to be a dimwit I was also disgusted with Bill O's condescending treatment of her. That's ONE of the reasons I can't stand the man..he obviously thinks women are "lesser than"....
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John McCain is not a monster - he's just not the leader we need right now. Unfortunately he stayed with the scare-tactics type campaign that is so Republican - look at 2004 - we had so many freaking Orange Alerts pre-election and post-election, gee there were NONE. Every email I have rec'd from the Repubs has been a new scare....Obama is a terrorist, he's a socialist, he's a muslinm, he's a radical, he's going to load up the welfare rolls with every black man, woman and child in America, he's going to put Jackson, Sharpton and Farraken in the cabinet and on and on ad infinitum. They don't want to deal with the fact that so many previously Republican newspapers are ALL endorsing Obama, top brains in every field are coming out for him and the average citizen is almost every country in the world is PRO Obama - they can't understand how it won't be a huge landslide. Many citizens of other countries know more about our government than a lot of Americans - sad but true.
I got a kick out of the news today that Dick Cheney crawled out of the rock he's been hiding under and is "supporting" McCain - hip hip hooray. I am surprised that the party thought that would be a GOOD idea?
Anyway, it's important for us to keep reminding people to vote - no one should take for granted that Obama will win - who knows what tricks the Repubs still have up their sleeve!
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The funniest part of the SNL/QVC spoof to me was when Cindy McCain was showing the gold necklaces for the "McCain Fine Gold" bit. It was too hilarious.
Yeah, McCain used to be more comfortable in his own skin. Till the Rove handlers got a hold of him. I guess we owe them a debt of gratitude. He was far more formidable when he was hinmself.
Anne
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John McCain may not be a monster, but there are times he allowed his campaign to act like monsters. I believe he is a far better man than his campaign and I hope he goes back to being that man after the election and doesn't become his campaign as he returns to the senate.
I gave the link for the Palin Prank to a european friend of mine who I've also been sending links to snl skits. She assumed the prank was actually a Tina Fey skit and almost peed her pants when she realzied it was real. LOL.
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I agree that O'Reilly was dismissive of Victoria Jackson and it almost seemed that he had set her up. He must have had some idea of what she was going to say, and that it was going to sound out there. The man is a tool. But I think there is a chunk of the population who share Jackson's beliefs. I guess it's the same 25% who think Bush has done a heck of a job. And the 23% of Texans who apparently believe that Obama really is a Muslim. Never let it be said that liberals have the monopoly on wacky conspiracy theories. At least ours don't involve actual devils.
McCain certainly was a more honorable man before this election, and the media loved him, but I still think his hawkish, neocon foreign policy ideas would have led to war in Iraq if he had been elected in 2000. He's been a moderate on social issues, but not so on foreign policy. And he's always had that explosive, nasty side to his personality, which disqualifies him as presidential material, IMO. But he was funny on SNL.
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I never liked Victoria Jackson. I don't like women who are or who play dumb or as with her, are both. I can't believe so many people believe Obama is muslim-- I mean I don't want to believe it, I've read the polls. I think the 25% is republicans, not 25% of the entire american population.
I also thought the "fine gold" part was the best.
Anne, I agree with you about Rove, although I fault McCain for being drawn in. Rove will be Rove. McCain didn't have to employ his tactics or hire the people who smeared him in 2000. That speaks little about his character, in my opinion and defies his "country first" motto.
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Anne and Amy: I agree with both of you. I also believe that John McCain would have been more popular and perhaps a more formidable opponent had he been true to himself. The Rove machine had their way...too bad....I like the old JM......the allowance of the Rove machine to choose Palin because they thought it may win them the election just shows me that the repubs are not about what's right for the USA. It's all about GREED...there, I've said it..so shoot me.
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Don't worry Blue,..Annie has your back.
Nicki
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Just wondering--why gas prices have plummeted so much in the past 2 weeks. Wasn't too long ago (in CA) we were paying almost $4./gal--now some stations have lowered prices to $2.66/gal--what's up w/that? I told my dh that the prices would drop before the election, and they have done just that. Also thought the market would improve, and that's starting to happen also. Think there's some plan to lead us voters to become complacent?
John McCain lost it when he chose Palin for his sidekick. And downhill after that. I've seen a few of his campaign managers interviewed on CNN and MSNBC--he should never have hired them, and I don't know why he didn't have the good sense to fire them when things started to take a turn for the worse.
I'm sure Palin will appear again on the campaign circuit in 4 years! She's had a taste of real power and the good life, and she wants it, and she wants it now.
you betcha!!
Go Obama--less than three days!!!
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Grace if you remember correctly, gas prices plummeted right before the 2004 election too. Coincidence? I think not.
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Sure am glad that others are noticing this. I was thinking the same thing as the prices started to come down. We lost 2 local boys last week-end and one local boy this week-end in Afghanistan. The surge is working?
I watched Obama stop a crowd from booing again and said pretty much not to do that, just go out an vote. I've seen Palin make a negative statement and stand in silence encouraging the boos.
I personally think that McCain is a womanizer and has very little respect for us. And I bet there were alot more women in his lives beside his 2 wives. There is no room for someone with an explosive personality running this country.
Nicki
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Afternoon
Thanks for all the kind thoughts. I'm making my way to the best medicine as fast as I can
Just now, for the second time this weekend, a Rev Wright ad is on my telly, courtesy of the the National Republican Trust Act..
Gas is going down while the Stock Market is going up. What's next, an ad from Osama Bin Laden? My fingers, eyes, legs, all my body parts that can crossed are crossed. I hope people really think hard this time. I can't imagine Sarah Palin as President, and it could happen with McCain's health issues and his age, no matter how healthy he is now. We all know how precarious health can be.
Barack Obama just saluted JOHN GLENN and his wife. They are in the Audience at an Obama Rally IN Columbus Ohio. Great! I can't recall this information; John Glenn is one of my heroes; isn't he a Republican?
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I have to add that I miss the old McCain too. He was one of my favorite Republicans. I know he would have done better with voters, especially the Indies, if he had been true to himself and not let the attack machine run his campaign.
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bar, why the heck is the RNC running ads in NY the bluest of blue states? Why are they spreading their hatred. I think Glenn is a conservative dem. Did you remember he was part of the keating 5 with McCain? I didn't until I looked it up this morning.
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