I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited March 2022
  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2022

    Pathetic, maybe they should 'freedom truck' to the Ukraine if they want to learn about what the lack of freedom really means.

  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited March 2022

    They need to pull up their big boy pants and face reality. They still have the freedom to do needless protests such as this, however if they were in Russia, their butts would be in jail and their trucks confiscated. All this fuss over masks and vaccine seems infantile at best and they need to grow a set. How selfish can one person be that they cannot see the need to protect others.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2022

    I notice we haven't seen anything from Jackie (IllinoisLady) since the end of Feb. Interestingly, I suspect the biggest problems may be caused by the hosting platform. When clicking on the breastcancer.org hotlink in one of the numerous "Our Site is Down" pages, I notice that the redirect url in the address box at the top of the screen contains "aws." That is Amazon Web Services--heavily advertised, and a lot of webmasters and site owners have apparently switched to it. Bezos strikes again--first he kills bookstores, then he makes billions and builds his own rocket so he can take a momentary joyride into the stratosphere, makes his employees work sweatshop hours, all without paying a cent in taxes. And now he has taken not just a forum but an actual community and thrown a hand grenade into it.

    I suggest that we ought to Private Message those of us here with whom we'd like to keep communicating--but put our actual e-mail addresses in the messages. At least that way we can still connect while this site keeps "yanking the cable out of the port."

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2022

    Yes! Like for most of us, this site has changed so much, and not for the good. It takes forEVER to get logged in. And maybe some of us do not have the right browser?

    Jackie is really having a hard time just trying to log in. We email, but she really misses her friends on here! She writes the mods, but so far, no help.

    So frustrating, and I try & help her, but since it seems no-one is listening, it's almost impossible to log in here, like we used to! I just feel bad, because this used to be our "go to" place for support, and just talking to "friends".... because we have all gone through breast cancer! Looks like our "friends" have given up.... just wish we could all go back to "the way we were"....

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2022

    I am willing to give it another week or so, and then.......I don't know.....private Facebook group? Group emails? Everything else seems so clunky compared to what we had. (I will now hit 'Submit', go to the bathroom, wash my hands, and by the time I get back, it may or may not have sent.)

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    Not sure how this happened -- or if it will show but I tried this afternoon and lo and behold. I've had such a time trying to use the site. No matter what I tried ( and I had to be given the BC.. Org link first ) by the mods, I couldn't seem to get past the profile page. I was stuck there and no matter what I did it would return over and over to that page.

    Chevy and I have communicated by email for a very long time and she too tried to help me but it didn't change anything. Still got a major hang-up on the profile page. if the mods found me a fix, I thank them from the bottom of my heart, but it sounds like there some real issues with this change. They tell me they are working on these things and maybe at some point it will get better, but I am concerned that a lot of people won't want to wait that out.

    I'm hoping that I can learn how to move freely, and post articles and memes as easy as I could before. Anyway, cross your fingers that I don't suddenly revert. Now I have to find a couple of other forums and see if I can et on those.



  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    Another example of get too close to Trump and you change for the very worst while Trump remains himself -- the person you should have been able to easily see and judge long before you became his number one toady. You were going to go somewhere Haley -- and un-fortunately now you have. To the bottom of the barrel because you thought Trump was your ticket to the stars. He was your ticket to rot and you have.

    May be an image of text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot Nikki Haley is a rising star in the Republican Party in that she is slightly younger soulless garbage.'

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2022

    OMG! You got on!!!! YAY!!!! I was just coming on to share your email address with the whole world, Hah!!!

    I hope you can stay on for a while! (That don't look right, but spell check says it is...)

    Okay... At least you got on.... xoxo

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    Yes, I did. And so far, I've signed off and waited a while and able to sign back on and do okay.

    I just read a blurb that said the GOP is meeting with the Freedom truckers. I am thinking they can't wait to congratulate those who got through. You know there is nothing crappier than those who swore an oath to root for you going to the other side instead. Just very quickly it comes to mind that most of the lot on that SIDE are such losers and the last place they need to be is in federal offices. In a word -- their loyalties stink to high heaven.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022
  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2022

    You GO girl! Now if anyone else can sign on here, just maybe we will get a reply!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    I'm hoping everyone keeps trying every day like I did. I have to admit -- until today I always hit a brick wall and sort of had that expectation going on. I've been so happy though and hope it keeps right on.

    In other news:

    Steve Scalise Falls Apart At Press Conference And Defends Trump Extorting Zelensky

    Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) was asked about Trump's extortion of Zelensky in 2019, and he defended Trump.
    Read on »


    I so wanted to hang onto the feeling I had long ago when Scalise was shot on that ball diamond. I was horrified by what took place and I prayed that he would be fine. I cheered when he was able to return to his seat. I am still glad that he lived and was able to go back to work, but I find it just as hard as ever to cheer his health while he behaves so poorly. The game playing is so transparent and while I know he doesn't care as long as he makes those on his side happy, I do wonder if he cares about the end game -- his place in history for acting like he is dumber than a rock in a mud puddle. They may not care so much how they often appear to us, but I must say the history books in many cases could be quite un-kind about this insane behavior.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    This is certainly hitting it on all four burners:

    May be an image of text that says 'Jeff Tiedrich @itsJeffTiedrich the party no one could have predicted that of Nazis, racists, mall creepers, pedophile wrestling coaches, sex-trafficking OTE Florida party boys, blackout-drunk drunk rapist judges, concentration caTp fanboys and bone saw murder apologists would also be the oarty party of Putin- loving stooges 10:12 M 2/23/22 Twitter Web App'

  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited March 2022

    Welcome back, Jackie. You were missed.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    When the hard times of life come, we know that no matter how tragic the circumstances seem, no matter how long the spiritual drought, no matter how long and dark the days, the sun is sure to break through; the dawn will come. The warmth of His assurance will hold us in an embrace once again, and we will know that our God has been there all along. We will hear him say, through it all, "Hold on, my child, joy comes in the morning!" -Gloria Gaither

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2022
  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2022
  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited March 2022

    I'm very upset with the new format. So much so that I feel like a fool to be so invested in a forum that does not really seem to give a crap about me or the friends I have made here. I don't like being at the mercy of what feels like disembodied administrators who done gone and made a mess of things.

    Do any of you remember the story that made headlines a year ago last March about the discrepancies between the weight rooms of the women's college basketball team and the men's bb team during the March tournaments? Even tho we don't have a male counterpart to this forum, it feels like we got the shaft when it comes to getting a QUALITY upgrade to the bco forum. Like if this were a men's forum, the administrators would make sure an update provided MORE POWER, to use the comedian Tim Allen's catch phrase, to perform the technical tasks necessary to communicate FULLY with each other.

    Here's a comparison photo of those bb weight rooms, btw, women's on the left. That's how it feels the “soft launch" has rolled out for us in comparison to I guess what we had. I could go on, but I'm sure you sense my distress and frustration. I even feel badly bitching about this because the forum had provided me so much support over the years, but I have to be honest.



    imageimage
    ^^^ how the updated forum feels


  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited March 2022

    some years ago a lot of us went to pro boards. We are still there, it’s been great. No unnecessary updates.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    You find yourself refreshed by the presence of cheerful people. Why not make an earnest effort to confer that pleasure on others? Half the battle is gained if you never allow yourself to say anything gloomy. -Lydia Maria Child

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    I'm sorry for your struggles with this Divine. I was right where you were day before yesterday. Difference being I couldn't get here at all. I still have some of the issues but I do have hope that most will iron out. Like most -- I find the super white and too much of it as well, all over format is hard to take. Still I have to admit, as I said at the previous area where I was posting, my delight at being able to communicate once again with all the "friends" from yrs. now, is making a hard landing softer. All I've ever had at times is hope for change for the better. I will keep hope alive for you that you will hang in here because we here need your voice. I will hope that the things that seem so cumbersome and distance from what may have been hoped for will turn up if we give it some time and have some ( I know in some cases ) much needed patience. Love ya, Divine. Hang in there okay.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022
  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited March 2022

    Man, I give up. I have only been following 2 threads, and always being able to post.... or at least READ the threads.

    I'm just taking a break.... Just wish BC.ORG would think about their "members" along with their web designers. Soooo frustrating.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    I feel so for the Ukraine people. They are so brave and determined. I also think the news people are in something of the same quandary as Putin who is still trying to feed lies to his people. Continued arrests of those who protest is helping spread the word and feelings that if Putin were telling the truth -- Russia would not be having the issues of no banks, no credit, no sales of oil and many other like indications that the truth is NOT being told. News here is having to walk a line as well. It is Day 14already and Putin is having to ask small countries to send their armies. He is holding back sending more of the Russians since he might make some 'points' with his people if he doesn't. I personally don't think this maneuver will in the end will do it for him, but he is a party of one pretty much. He stepped off into a void he never saw coming -- so we will see if someone ( US ) can feed him an off-ramp that he can take. I'd still say hopefully that he is on his way out. He is as evil as the other non-President that he helped get into control here.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    Oh Chevy -- you hung in till you got me here. Your voice too adds so much that is needed. I hope you will re-think your break and not make it too long. This is how I feel about everyone. No one said breast cancer was easy but we got through it and we got through it together. There must be a way for everyone to get through this. I have hope and I'm willing to share.

  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited March 2022

    I'd like to say that both Divine and chevy have vaild points about this crapola of an update that is now in to week 2 with no significant positive changes. Print is still too small, page is too white and margin on left is still too large at over 1/3 of the page. Print would be larger if this margin were slimmer. I would not recommend this upgrade company and I do feel somewhat discriminated against as Divine suggested. Some avatars are just upload data, etc. I haven;t seen postings from some who posted daily during this boondoggle and worry that some will not come back due to their ongoing frustrations. I just tried to enter the feminism forum and was disconnected with "application failure" which seems to be the buzz word this week.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    Betrayal -- yes, Divine and Chevy do have very valid points and I don't want to suggest that anyone need feel un-warranted with those points or whatever is different now for them. Everyone here did seem more or less quite content with the site as it was before the upgrade including me. I hope to inspire those who have the issues because almost to a person I'm sure we all have undergone some highly frustrating times. This is an important place and I'll be honest -- I do fear losing people who have become special and who contribute so much like yourself, Betrayal. I am often confused by so many things and the clarifications you all bring is something that helps me so very much.

    So, I will keep hope alive that things will get better and along with that I certainly hope sooner rather than later. I do think the mods can only do so much and that while they can't say it to us -- they may have some disappointments too. I am generally more hopeful than not so I'm crossing my fingers for everyone.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2022

    Divine and Chevy do have VERY valid points, as do you Betrayal. I guess I'm the eternally hopeful one and I think everyone's points are worth discussion here. I hope I didn't say anything to make anyone feel invalidated in any way. I, myself have some of the same points. I do think though that the mods really can't say, but they too may have a number of disappointments as to how things have turned out with this UPDATE and they are left with dealing with a huge amount of un-happy people who have been here a long time. I've certainly seen a lot since 2007.

    I just wanted to offer what hope I could, that while it is taking an over-long time it feels like, that the site will find its sea legs. I feel like I need everyone here to help me sort out what gets so jumbled at times for me. I'm afraid of losing any of you and so I hope for the highly positive to happen while acknowledging the negative.

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