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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Hi Essa, missed you !!!  Sorry, don't have any links on MSM, have not researched that yet, ouf !  So much to do !  Good for pain hein ?  Will have to check it out.

    THANK YOU LADIES FOR BEING THERE, HUGS TO EVERYONE !! 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtZqJmCYb9k&feature=endscreen&NR=1

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    PLEASE VOTE *NO* - TOP MONSANTO VP ELECTED TO TOP FDA POSITION=DISASTER!

    http://www.naturalnews.com/034847_Michael_Taylor_Monsanto_FDA.html

    Make your voice heard and tell Obama absolutely NO, NADA!

    Thanks ladies!! 

    tucker

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited March 2012

    Hi tucker, did you know there's a federal lawsuit filed against Monsanto by the Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association?  There are 300,000 organic farmers represented by this lawsuit. 

    I truly hope the organic farmers prevail.  Monsanto already has a long history of successfully suing and winning cases where the wind blows their products into neighboring fields and then Monsanto sues the farmer for 'stealing' their technology.  It boggles my mind that an organic farmer who adamantly opposes gmo can be saddled with such a lawsuit.  And then to lose that lawsuit is truly insult on top of injury.   

    http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/9984-willie-nelson-and-300000-other-activists-sue-monsanto

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    althea,

    This is truly a miscarriage of justice. There won't be any produce (including meat) on the planet that is not GMO. That's their plan and they are succeeding very well.  Wind blows these GMO seeds everywhere. I don't think most people understand how terrible the GMO seeds are. Genetically modifying seeds with pesticides and other carcinogenic products is a disaster for the health of millions. A friend of mine who lives in Canada said her father was strong-armed to accept GMO seeds years ago. He quit farming because of it. GMO seeds can't be used as a seed crop, so they must be purchased every year. Because of prevailing winds, GMO seeds have affected canola fields in Canada, ruining the crops. It's a total travesty!

    Thanks for posting and also for the link.  I am posting the petition again to say NO regarding electing Monsanto VP to the top position in the FDA:

    http://www.naturalnews.com/034847_Michael_Taylor_Monsanto_FDA.html

    tucker

    I just hope the VP of Monsanto doesn't get into the FDA, which is already

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited March 2012

    Did anyone see Dateline last night about the clinical trials that are being run in India. Chris Hansen posed as a pharmaceutical CEO and asked them to do a trial on a drug that has been taken off the market here in the USA.  They use humans for trials, and pay them about $150 for participating, a lot less than you would have to pay for a trial here in the USA.  They were quite willing to do it, knowing that the drug was taken off the market.  This is how drugs are getting through human trials in many instances.  Small wonder we have so many bad drugs on the market.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Oh Kaara, that's awful Frown

    This is an old article - I wonder if times have changed and if anyone is receiving chemo in their doctor's office ?  I know of private clinics in my corner of the world 

    Drug Sales Bring Huge Profits, And Scrutiny, to Cancer Doctors

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/us/drug-sales-bring-huge-profits-and-scrutiny-to-cancer-doctors.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Maud,

    thanks so much for passing this link along!  I hope something is done about this scam.

    tucker

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited March 2012

    I saw the Dateline show about clinical trials in India.  Disgusting and very scary - - - talk about NO ethics!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Tuckertwo, it gets worst Frown  In case someone missed it, I'm linking to CP418's post

    FDA searches McLeod Cancer and Blood Center for counterfeit meds 

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topic/783815 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Maud,

    Wow..I just read the link/news report. How can there be such evil people in this world, to do such a thing? Boggles the mind. I guess that is a heads up when receiving chemo...ask about the lot numbers!

    tucker

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Tucker, there's no other word, evil people Yell 

    I always say Karma is a b*tch though

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited March 2012

    Stories like these make me wonder what things would be like if the FDA would cease to exist as some people seem to wish. 

    I wish the FDA had lots more resources to combat this kind of abuse.  More budget, support, leadership, and enforcement authority.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Corruption ?  Says who ?  Surprised

    Key facts

    US$ 4.1 trillion is spent globally on health services every year, with US$ 750 billion spent in the pharmaceutical market.

    10 to 25% of public procurement spending (including on pharmaceuticals) is lost to corrupt practices

    In developed countries, fraud and abuse in health care has been estimated to cost individual governments as much as US$ 23 billion per year.

    Countries with a higher incidence of corruption have higher child mortality rates.

    Lack of medicines and counterfeit and substandard medicines lead to patient suffering and have direct life or death consequences.

    To reduce corruption, thorough checks and balances are required at each step in the medicine chain. Good governance includes transparency, accountability, promoting institutional integrity and moral leadership.

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs335/en/

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Also watched the Dateline show on cancer trials, infuriating.

    As for the DMSO and MSM, I don't know that it was taken off market so much as is not FDA approved when it could have been, but they didn't.  I know you can get both for animal care, and I do get mine from health stores and order online.  Just supposing it will be off market someday with all the opposition.  

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited March 2012

    I take MSM as a supplement from my holistic doctor and get DMSO in my weekly IV infusion, so it must still be available for use.  

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited March 2012

    Here's a sidebar topic, not related to Pharma industry, but nonetheless, it's FDA related topic.  I'm a mother of 3 young children, and it horrifies me that the Government has purchased this meat that McDonalds was FORCED to reject because of pressure from consumers.  When the whistle-blower story was featured on the "pink slime" in the meat being purchased by McD's, I guess the large quantity of meat went to the next highest bidder---- the government. Purchasing it for our children....

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/pink-slime-for-school-lun_n_1322325.html?ref=education

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Marianna, sad but true. Good to know these things so we can avoid eating them. No doubt it will go to the folks in nursing homes as well.

    Kaara, what type of infusion are you getting? Is it Vitamin C?

    Maud, the stats are staggering.  Here is a news article by reuters published by natural news:

     http://www.naturalnews.com/035194_FDA_insider_trading_drug_approvals.html

    An FDA scientist gets 5 yrs in prison for insider trading. Of course, he isn't the only one in the FDA doing this - just the one who got caught!  The law should be if you are privvy to contracts and stocks you are not allowed to buy stock. Big business has to keep their nose out. The unholy Trinity here? The FDA, Congress and Big Pharma.

     tucker

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited March 2012

    tuckertwo:  I get a Meyer's cocktail, some cancer additives (DMSO) and a push of glutathione and alpha lipoic acid at the end.  I'm feeling back to normal, and so far no SE's from the tamoxifen I'm taking except some night sweats which I can tolerate.  I'm getting a thermogram next Thursday for my three month follow up after surgery.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    kaara,

    interesting! I take 200-300 mg of R+ alpha lipoic acid a day. Glad you are feeling well!  How is the MD situation?

    I believe thermography should be used instead of mammograms with associated radiation. Therms are more sensitive as well. Wonder why they aren't a part of the established medical system?

    tucker

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited March 2012

    My MD situation is what it is.  Thanks for asking.  On Monday I start getting the Lucentes injections in my left eye, which will be repeated monthly for who knows how long.  The good news is that this should stop the progression, something that wasn't available ten years ago.  The other good news is that all the vitamins and minerals that I'm taking are also good for MD, specifically alpha lipoic acid and glutathione.  I will take an add'l vitamin that has all the lutein and other antioxidants specifically for this eye disease.  I'm praying it works and I have no serious SE's, such as eye infections or blood clots.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Prayers and ((({{HUGS}}))) to you that all goes well ! That is wonderful that they can stop MD with this injection. I will have to see if my friend knows about it. Can you manage the potential se's with some herbal supplements?  

    tucker

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Kaara - knew a few people w MD who used fucoidan and the MD was gone.  If I used it I would drink one to two pints a day for a month and see what happens, no messing around.   Both Hubby and I used to have floaters and his dad has MD (who only does what his dr says) as did his grandfather.  We did this w the fucoidan juice (I now use caps and don't know if it would be same) but the floaters w juice went away, gone for 3 years now.  I used to sell the juice so I could get the right price for me, but don't know if I will again since I use the caps for my cancer challenge.  Anyway, you want the good stuff, not from wrong place or diluted or the heat processed etc.  Anyone interested in fucoidan it is amazing, promise. See pubmed.gov 

    Speaking of FDA, hahahaa, back to the topic......

    one company who produced and marketed the fucoidan that is in limu moui juice had the FDA seize hundreds of thousand of dollars of their product and DUMP it in the ocean because they had made 'false claims' and not complied quickly enough.  Mainly the producers were not making the claims so much as the marketers were and it was not under control quickly so the loss happened at hands of FDA.  All the people who could have been helped.   eeesh

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited March 2012

    Essa:  I have not heard of fucoidan but I will check on it right away...thanks.  I will try anything that could help stop this progression.  Not ready to go blind just yet, but I found out it does run in my family.  Almost all my relatives on my father's side are legally blind from MD.  My grandfather went blind but lived to be 106.  He still walked a mile every day.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Tucker, 'no doubt, it will go to the folks in the nursing homes' - we have no reason to be optimistic, do we Frown and yuck, yuck, yuck, unholy trinity indeed !

    Kaara, hoping your new diet and supplements will put a stop to MD

    Essa, will look up fucoidan juice, thanks for the tip (I have floaters big time)

    Just read this and it made me sad and really angry:

    Reasons America's Mental Health Industry Is a Threat to Our Sanity

    Drug industry corruption, scientifically unreliable diagnoses and pseudoscientific research have compromised the values of the psychiatric profession.

    When Rebecca Riley was 28 months old, based primarily on the complaints of her mother that she was "hyper" and had difficulty sleeping, psychiatrist Kayoko Kifuji, at the Tufts-New England Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts, diagnosed Rebecca with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Kifuji prescribed clonidine, a hypertensive drug with significant sedating properties, a drug Kifuji also prescribed to Rebecca's older sister and brother. The goal of the Riley parents-obvious to many in their community and later to juries-was to attain psychiatric diagnoses for their children that would qualify them for disability payments and to sedate their children making them easy to manage.

    By the time Rebecca was three years old, again based mainly on parental complaints, Kifuji had given Rebecca an additional diagnosis of bipolar disorder and prescribed two additional heavily sedating drugs, the antipsychotic Seroquel and the anticonvulsant Depakote.

    At the age of four, Rebecca was dead.

    http://www.alternet.org/story/153634/7_reasons_america's_mental_health_industry_is_a_threat_to_our_sanity/?page=entire

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited March 2012

    I watched a special on MSNBC the other night  called "Pill Poppers" about the extensive use of prescription drugs in this country, and what they are doing to people.  It is just criminal.

    They talked about young children being given Ritalin for ADHD, and now even non ADHD kids and adults are taking it because it helps them "focus" and work longer hours without getting tired. It said that pretty soon everyone will have to take it in order to compete in society..can you believe this!  I was so disgusted that I turned it off!  My DS was diagnosed with ADD in school and they wanted me to put him on Ritalin...I refused.  He thanks me today, because he said he would surely have become a major drug user with all the problems he had.  He has friends who did.

    Why doesn't the FDA crack down on some of this stuff instead of harping on the vitamin industry.  They have their priorities misplaced and are being run by the pharmaceutical companies. 

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited March 2012
    Why would the FDA crack down on these prescription drugs when they are sleeping with the big phamrs and the drs.get a kick back?I even heard that the school gets a kickback if the the kid has ADD.Its all about the almighty $$$$$$$$$$$
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Yes, now I am angry. I hope the parent's and dr end up w prison under their belts.

  • kingjr66
    kingjr66 Member Posts: 764
    edited March 2012

    Whenever a doctor wants to give me a new prescription to take (which is very rare for me these days) I ask them, have you taken this drug?  Would you let your wife/husband/children take it?  Most of the time the answer is "no I have not", "if they had the same problem/symptom as you, yes.  Why do I not believe them?

    Essa, yes they do......case in point, Dr. Conrad Murray (Michael Jackson's doctor).

    I work in a workers' compensation administration office.  The comp board has now revised their medical guidelines to curb the use on prescription pain medications, especially narcotic pain meds.  All new cases are only allowed 14 days use.  Beyond that the claimant must show medical necessity.  Older cases now have to show medical necessity as well.  The board is cracking down on doctors who over-prescribe.  Win win for my profession.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited March 2012

    kingjr66:  That's good to know.  I know they are cracking down on the pill mills here in Florida which were the worst in the country.

    I was in the ER once and a doctor that I never met before in my life came in and tried to get me to take an anti anxiety med he was prescribing for me.  I asked how long I would have to take it and he said "forever".....I refused.  He wasn't very happy.  This is how innocent people get hooked on drugs. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    kingjr66, that's great, that's certainly a step in the right direction.

    Oh Essa, I hope too that those parents and that doctor end up in jail and that the remaining two kids are taken away to a safer home.  I cannot believe parents would resort to prescription drugs to "quiet down" their kids, how many parents do that ?? 

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